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Tuesday, March 02, 2010

Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

That's good to know, Jim, thanks!
 
SUSAN
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

"If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went."

- Will Rogers
 
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I have no intentions of feeding any DE to my herd.  I was only trying to help others.
 
Guess it didn't work
 
The DE for pests worked just fine for getting rid of the fleas.
 
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA
 

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

That's a good point about DE being destructive to carpets.  I'm glad you said that, Heather because I did that once before and never thought about it hurting the carpet.  We have a Dyson and they really don't work great and do lose power after about six months, I don't recommend them.  Thanks! 
 
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

It's not personal, I was only making an observation. And, most vacs don't really get out grit and dirt from carpets. I have a Rainbow, they really work, but even they take more than one vacuuming to get out really old soil (like, what's been left in your carpets since it was installed). Even Dysons don't work as well as a Rainbow.


Seriously, no offense intended.

Also, my post regarding the DE was at 2:53 PST. Your post wasn't up yet.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, J Guerin wrote:


As I said in another reply:  I did NOT leave it in the carpet.  Only for just over two weeks...  which was a bit longer that directions. One only has to read what the package says.
 
And, I vacuumed the carpets more than once, actually in both directions.
 
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA
 
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

Also, I would think that DE is awfully abrasive to be putting into your carpet. Sandy grit is one thing and awfully destructive to carpet, but DE is more like little microscopic knives. They can really destroy carpeting fibers! I'd be very cautious about doing this unless I was prepared to replace the carpet sooner than normal.


Heather

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Oregon

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

As I said in another reply:  I did NOT leave it in the carpet.  Only for just over two weeks...  which was a bit longer that directions. One only has to read what the package says.
 
And, I vacuumed the carpets more than once, actually in both directions.
 
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA
 
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

Also, I would think that DE is awfully abrasive to be putting into your carpet. Sandy grit is one thing and awfully destructive to carpet, but DE is more like little microscopic knives. They can really destroy carpeting fibers! I'd be very cautious about doing this unless I was prepared to replace the carpet sooner than normal.


Heather

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

It is pretty hard on the vacumn cleaner too.

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--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:53 PM

 
Also, I would think that DE is awfully abrasive to be putting into your carpet. Sandy grit is one thing and awfully destructive to carpet, but DE is more like little microscopic knives. They can really destroy carpeting fibers! I'd be very cautious about doing this unless I was prepared to replace the carpet sooner than normal.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:19 PM, barngirrl@aol. com wrote:

I think Jim was speaking about carpeting in a house or apartment though and you can't use pool grade d.e. where are you going to keep cats, it is poisonous to them.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
 
In a message dated 3/2/2010 12:28:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, aemoss17@comcast. net writes:

You can use animal/food grade to sprinkle, but it is more pricy.  The animal grade is edible and can assist in controlling the internal parasites in your animals.  The "swimming pool filter" type or the non-food grade just should not be ingested…but is fine for pest management sprinkling.

Allison

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

 
SUSAN

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 



There was no one living in the house.  My dog walked in and out of it while I was working on putting the place back together, with no effects after it was sprinkled out. 
 
I left it on the carpets for over two weeks, then vacuumed it up.  You do not leave it down.  I used my shop vac, with a hose on the exhaust side, running out side, so as to not spread that very fine dust around inside the house.  Cleaned the vac filter several times also.
 
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

I think Jim was speaking about carpeting in a house or apartment though and you can't use pool grade d.e. where are you going to keep cats, it is poisonous to them.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
 
In a message dated 3/2/2010 12:28:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, aemoss17@comcast.net writes:

You can use animal/food grade to sprinkle, but it is more pricy.  The animal grade is edible and can assist in controlling the internal parasites in your animals.  The "swimming pool filter" type or the non-food grade just should not be ingested…but is fine for pest management sprinkling.

Allison

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

 
SUSAN

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

I have no intentions of feeding any DE to my herd.  I was only trying to help others.
 
Guess it didn't work
 
The DE for pests worked just fine for getting rid of the fleas.
 
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

Jim - the pool grade is poisonous to animals, so I would not use it where someone plans on keeping animals in the future. Also, if the flea infestation is bad, a flea bomb or spray that kills eggs is your best bet.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
 
 
In a message dated 3/2/2010 12:06:45 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rv@lovethemalpacas.com writes:
Did you know there are different grades of DE?  One is animal grade, and one other is for putting down as pest control.  They are not interchangeable.  I needed some for a major flea infestation left for me by some trash 'renters' that I kicked out.  The feed store tried to sell me the feed grade and told me it would work for the pests.  I did know that was not the case, so went to another store. There might be a third grade too.
 
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

Also, I would think that DE is awfully abrasive to be putting into your carpet. Sandy grit is one thing and awfully destructive to carpet, but DE is more like little microscopic knives. They can really destroy carpeting fibers! I'd be very cautious about doing this unless I was prepared to replace the carpet sooner than normal.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
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On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:19 PM, barngirrl@aol.com wrote:

I think Jim was speaking about carpeting in a house or apartment though and you can't use pool grade d.e. where are you going to keep cats, it is poisonous to them.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
 
In a message dated 3/2/2010 12:28:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, aemoss17@comcast.net writes:

You can use animal/food grade to sprinkle, but it is more pricy.  The animal grade is edible and can assist in controlling the internal parasites in your animals.  The "swimming pool filter" type or the non-food grade just should not be ingested…but is fine for pest management sprinkling.

Allison

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

 
SUSAN

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- Will Rogers


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posted by Chaddo at 2:53 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

I think Jim was speaking about carpeting in a house or apartment though and you can't use pool grade d.e. where are you going to keep cats, it is poisonous to them.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
 
In a message dated 3/2/2010 12:28:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, aemoss17@comcast.net writes:

You can use animal/food grade to sprinkle, but it is more pricy.  The animal grade is edible and can assist in controlling the internal parasites in your animals.  The "swimming pool filter" type or the non-food grade just should not be ingested…but is fine for pest management sprinkling.

Allison

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

 
SUSAN

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

Actually Allison,
The pool kind is not okay for use anywhere that it might be accidentally inhaled by alpaca or man. It can cause silicosis. Leave the pool grade for the pool filters and use the regular DE for pest control and as a feed additive or adjunct. 

Laurel

The Shouvlins
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> You can use animal/food grade to sprinkle, but it is more pricy. The
> animal
> grade is edible and can assist in controlling the internal parasites in
> your
> animals. The "swimming pool filter" type or the non-food grade just
> should
> not be ingested.but is fine for pest management sprinkling.
>
>
>
> Allison
>
> Allison E. Moss-Fritch
>
> 350 Cloquallum Rd.
>
> Elma, WA 98541-9440
>
> Phone 360 861-8584
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of J Guerin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:49 AM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE
>
>
>
>
>
> Did you know there are different grades of DE? One is animal grade, and
> one
> other is for putting down as pest control. They are not interchangeable.
> I
> needed some for a major flea infestation left for me by some trash
> 'renters'
> that I kicked out. The feed store tried to sell me the feed grade and
> told
> me it would work for the pests. I did know that was not the case, so went
> to another store. There might be a third grade too.
>
>
>
> Jim Guerin
>
> Jimmini Farm
>
> Yelm, WA
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
From: Lori <mailto:ridineasy@yahoo.com>
>
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:43 AM
>
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] DE
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for the wonderful information. I would like to get my animals
> off
> of the chemical pesticides as much as possible and this seems like the
> best
> alternative. It also sounds like a it will be easier for me since my
> partner
> is a truck driver and has to make special arrangements to be in at worming
> time. This way they will be wormed on a daily basis instead on just once a
> month.
>
>
>
>

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

You can use animal/food grade to sprinkle, but it is more pricy.  The animal grade is edible and can assist in controlling the internal parasites in your animals.  The “swimming pool filter” type or the non-food grade just should not be ingested…but is fine for pest management sprinkling.

 

Allison

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

350 Cloquallum Rd.

Elma, WA 98541-9440

Phone 360 861-8584

 

 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of J Guerin
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:49 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

 

Did you know there are different grades of DE?  One is animal grade, and one other is for putting down as pest control.  They are not interchangeable.  I needed some for a major flea infestation left for me by some trash 'renters' that I kicked out.  The feed store tried to sell me the feed grade and told me it would work for the pests.  I did know that was not the case, so went to another store. There might be a third grade too.

 

Jim Guerin

Jimmini Farm

Yelm, WA

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Lori

Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:43 AM

Subject: [AlpacaTalk] DE

 

 

Thank you for the wonderful information. I would like to get my animals off of the chemical pesticides as much as possible and this seems like the best alternative. It also sounds like a it will be easier for me since my partner is a truck driver and has to make special arrangements to be in at worming time. This way they will be wormed on a daily basis instead on just once a month.

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] dog blankets

 

Hi Janice, The last time I ordered, I tried to do it online and the price their site was showing, was different from the email special I got. When I called them, they also quoted me the higher price. Then I went back to the site and signed it first and the right price popped up. I would keep checking the site even though they say no sale til fall. I am pretty sure I ordered some in June the first year.
Flossie

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To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
From: jelizabethfarms1@bellsouth.net
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:33:17 -0500
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] dog blankets

 
The 600 Denier waterproof in XXXL was on sale for $12.45 (Big Dees)! I
tried to order 6 and 1 in med for a cria coat this week-end but was
having trouble with the order on line; tho the site did say they would
be backordered, I was having trouble with the shipping chg they kept
trying to charge me even tho my order was over $70. I just tried to
call to place the order the old fashioned way and she told me they are
out, won't back order; says they won't get anymore in until Fall. Darn it!
It is snowing here and has been since early morning. I *really* needed
those coats now. And loved the price; I doubt they will be on sale
fall and winter :-(.

Flossie, I am now getting email sales flyers from them, but they never
mentioned this sale. I only found it when I went searching for the
horse blankets you mentioned that were on sale......and I never did find
that $10 off coupon you mentioned. The 10% off one I found on line no
longer works.

Just thought I'd let you all know, in case you were planning on ordering
some.
Janice


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