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Re: [AlpacaTalk] More questions

Oh, halters are available at Quality Llama Products or UsefulItems.com

Heather

> Are there any good alpaca supply catalogs or websites? I need to buy
> halters
> at the very least.
>
>
>
>
> AmyJo

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] More questions

We feed free choice hay, 2nd cutting orchard grass. We have custom
(home) made hay boxes that hold an entire 100 lb bale. We also have
lower hay boxes for pastures with crias (and their dams) so the babies
can get to the hay since the other hay boxes are too tall for the young
babies to reach into.

We feed a custom milled pelleted supplement. It's alfalfa based with a
premium vitamin/mineral mix and flax seed meal. The flax does indeed
improve fleece.

We do have automatic waterers. We have the small horse kind available
at just about any feed store. They are also available at Harbor Freight
for about $20. It's very easy to clean them when necessary, and they
only hold about 1 gallon of water so there is always fresh water. It
sure beats filling buckets with a hose daily, or 2 or 3 times daily!

Our hay boxes are on the ground. I've never seen alpacas eating from
high racks... not in Oregon! :) We bowl feed their pellet and make sure
they get their daily ration, no more, no less. No stealing is allowed.
We put the feed bowls on the ground as well, and pick them up when
they're finished.

I also love valleyvet.com, jeffersvet, Country Supply (horse.com). We
got some 5 qt fed bowls there for $1.42 a piece. You just can't beat
that price!

Heather

On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:28 PM, AmyJoLabbe@aol.com wrote:

> How much feed is ideal? Do you normally feed free choice hay? What
> sort of
> hay? I live on the East coast and it is cold and snowy. No grass to
> speak of.
>
> How many of you supplement with grain and vitamins to improve fiber?
> Is
> there such a thing in alpacas?
>
> Do you like automatic waterers? Do you prefer bowl or paddle type?
>
> Alpacas are grazers, which means their body is designed to eat off the
> ground. But every alpaca farm I have been to feeds up high in racks.
> With horses,
> you don't want to feed them up like that because dust or hay
> particles from
> the hay can get into their nostrils and create respiratory
> irritation. I have
> even seen eye infections and scratched corneas from hay. There must
> be a
> reason so many people feed in hay racks. Your thoughts???
>
> Are there any good alpaca supply catalogs or websites? I need to buy
> halters
> at the very least.
>
>
>
>
> AmyJo
>
> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
>
> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-
> campos-duffy/
> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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[AlpacaTalk] centrifuge question

I am looking to purchase a centrifuge to do my own alapca fecals. With
so many brands and types out there, can anyone tell me what specific
functions/capabilities I should be looking for? Is there a certain size
that is best? Any information would be appreciated.
Linda Lachanski
Pic A Paca Dreams Alpaca Farm
Delanson, NY

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] More questions

I¹m in Maine....we have grass from June-Sept :)

I buy local hay, orchard grass primarily.

There is fresh Hay available 24/7 for all the alpacas ­ though on the super
hot days, I do limit. They don¹t need any extra heat generated when its over
80.

I supplement with a mix of Poulin Alpaca Maintenace, Blue Seal Alpaca
Maintenance, Blue Seal Fiber Nutrients.

I personally don¹t like automatic waterers because I think the bowls get
dirty, and the water can sit too long. I have running water in my barn, and
prefer to keep buckets filled. I carry hot water out in the winter several
times a day. However, other farms love their auto waterers. Never use
garden hoses ­ they breed bacteria.

My grain buckets are on the ground, and I keep my hay in large portable
large buckets on the ground. I try to mimic the grazing as much as possible.
To date, I have not seen anyone else do this, but I think it makes sense.

Halters ­ call Jane up at Ridge Mist Llama and Alpaca Supply
1-800-24LAMAS. Out of NewCastle, Maine.

For vet supplies - I usually check these three....
Valleyvet.com
Kvvet.com¹
Jefferslivestock.com

Equipment - www.lightlivestockequipment.com Talk to Jay

And Ebay ---- I just bought a microscope and centrifuge so I can do my own
fecals. Bought a $500 centrifuge for $75.

Hope this is useful :)

Tom Talbott
T-Square Suri Alpacas
www.t2suri.com

On 2/28/08 6:28 PM, "AmyJoLabbe@aol.com" <AmyJoLabbe@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> How much feed is ideal? Do you normally feed free choice hay? What sort of
> hay? I live on the East coast and it is cold and snowy. No grass to speak of.
>
> How many of you supplement with grain and vitamins to improve fiber? Is
> there such a thing in alpacas?
>
> Do you like automatic waterers? Do you prefer bowl or paddle type?
>
> Alpacas are grazers, which means their body is designed to eat off the
> ground. But every alpaca farm I have been to feeds up high in racks. With
> horses,
> you don't want to feed them up like that because dust or hay particles from
> the hay can get into their nostrils and create respiratory irritation. I have
> even seen eye infections and scratched corneas from hay. There must be a
> reason so many people feed in hay racks. Your thoughts???
>
> Are there any good alpaca supply catalogs or websites? I need to buy halters
> at the very least.
>
>
>
>
> AmyJo
>
> **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
> (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duff
> y/
> 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] micron counts

Hi Amy,

You can compare 2002 through 2004 and see that her fd (fiber diameter; it
means micron ) was 21.6 in her cria coat and only 22.0 by the time she is 4
years old. That is nice; she has fine fiber for a fawn girl. If her
shearing weight is 6 lbs overall in her 2003 or "tui"fleece, (the benchmark
year, many think) you don't have enough information to accurately assess,
but can extrapolate that her micron count remained fine as it was both the
prior year and the year following.

SD and CV the 3.4 and 15.9, respectively, are both ways of measuring
consistency. You want to find an Standard of Deviation of less than 5.0,
preferably, and she has that. While it has risen slightly over the years,
it is still in the nice range. Her Coefficient of Variation, which is
linked to the SD, should fall slightly from year one through year 3 , but
instead it rises. However, we want it to remain under 20 and it has been
15.9 the first time measured and only 19.4 when measured again 2 years
later; so it is also a quality measurement.

CF means comfort factor.how does it feel next to the skin. It I s only
measured in 2004 and it is nice there.95.3 is a good number for wearing as
clothing. A crimp of 37.3 means she has light rather than strong or boldly
deep crimp. We'd like to see a number in the 40's and in the 50's is
superlative. Overall, this is a nice girl .at least through 2004. Her
numbers will degrade over time, but we want them to do so slowly. I'd
think this was a nice girl, so long as conformation and bite, as well as
fertility also are what you are looking for.

Now, I hope that helps.I'd say, from an overall clip on a 2 year old of 6
lbs, that she is fairly dense also. So this looks like a nice girl, above
average if her numbers are still holding. Remember, a white girl is usually
finer than a colored one to begin with, so if you have a (for instance) dark
brown who starts with a 16 or so ..she is "extremely fine".whereas, if she
had the same numbers as a white, she'd only be "fine" at the same age and
number.

For more information look at the Yokum-McColl or Ian Watt's websites.they
both have information which explains the derivation and purpose of the
numbers.

Best regards,

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

Santa Clara, CA

408/248-3581

http://www.newmoonalpacas.com

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of AmyJoLabbe@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:23 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] micron counts

I need help understanding the micron counts. I am so new at all this and
cant find any sources to read about this online.

I am looking at a light fawn huacaya 2001 female. Her micron count was:

2002: 21.6 3.4 15.9 1.4
2003: Shearing weight 6 pounds
2004: fd22.0 sd4.3 cv19.4 cf95.3 curve37.3

Is any of this good? Bad? Average? What am I looking for?

Amy

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(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du
ffy/
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] transportation

I am looking for transportation referals. Does anyone know of coast to coast
transporters? My son has found his dream girl alpaca on the other side of
the USA! Thats too far for us to drive! 12-16 hours is our limit!

Speaking of that....what type of transport to you all have? Are you
modifying a horse trailer? Van? Bus?

Speaking of trailers....I have a 2H warmblood trailer which is extra tall
and extra wide. It is completely enclosed. How many alpacas on average, to ride
comfortable can I put in this?

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] More questions

How much feed is ideal? Do you normally feed free choice hay? What sort of
hay? I live on the East coast and it is cold and snowy. No grass to speak of.

How many of you supplement with grain and vitamins to improve fiber? Is
there such a thing in alpacas?

Do you like automatic waterers? Do you prefer bowl or paddle type?

Alpacas are grazers, which means their body is designed to eat off the
ground. But every alpaca farm I have been to feeds up high in racks. With horses,
you don't want to feed them up like that because dust or hay particles from
the hay can get into their nostrils and create respiratory irritation. I have
even seen eye infections and scratched corneas from hay. There must be a
reason so many people feed in hay racks. Your thoughts???

Are there any good alpaca supply catalogs or websites? I need to buy halters
at the very least.




AmyJo

**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

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[AlpacaTalk] micron counts

I need help understanding the micron counts. I am so new at all this and
cant find any sources to read about this online.

I am looking at a light fawn huacaya 2001 female. Her micron count was:

2002: 21.6 3.4 15.9 1.4
2003: Shearing weight 6 pounds
2004: fd22.0 sd4.3 cv19.4 cf95.3 curve37.3

Is any of this good? Bad? Average? What am I looking for?


Amy

**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

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