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Wednesday, January 02, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

Thanks, Diana. That is you, right?

I think we already solved this little mystery as you can see below. You arrived a bit late to the party. By the way, I believe that Alpacatalk requires that you sign your posts.

Stephanie
Stardust Alpacas

pacamom2000 <pacamom2000@yahoo.com> wrote: Do either of you read the ARIGrams or are you too busy on a witch hunt
to read?
Yes, you have to change the settings

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@...> wrote:
>
> And if I am not mistaken, now that my memory has been jogged, our
> current settings are the default, and we actually have to change those
> settings so that they are visible. Right?
>
> And it's true, the only time I spend on the ARI site is registering
> animals or looking up pedigrees and offspring of particular animals. I
> don't even know how to look up other members' info!
>
> Heather
>
> On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Stardust Alpacas wrote:
>
> > I sure did not opt out and neither did Heather. I vaguely remember
> > this topic a few months back on alpacasite. It just means we have not
> > gone in and added the information. I don't spend a whole lot of time
> > on the ARI site unless I am registering an animal. Do you? Or does
> > Jess? Sorry for the inconvenience to all that are upset that they
> > can't view our information. We will both be updating the info
shortly.
> > However, it is not like we are invisible and no one knows who we are.
> >
> > Stephanie Zeleny
> > Stardust Alpacas
> > stardustalpacas@...
> > 541.895.0964
> >
> >
> >

> > sesamedame@... wrote:
> > <Hmmm. I don't recall opting out of anything in my ARI
membership, and
> > <having just looked at my membership info online, I can't for the
life
> > <of me find out what you're talking about or where to change
whatever
> > it
> > <is you claim I have opted out of! Do tell, I'd love to change it
> > asap.
> >
> > You've opted not to include your name as owner of your animals
within
> > the
> > ARI database. Instead of listing your name it says 'not published by
> > owner'.
> >
> > This is a simple change made within your acount info.
> >
> > Carolyn Marquette,
> >
> > PartyLite Gifts _PartyLite.com_ (http://www.partylite.us/)
> >
> > The AlpacaRosa _www.TheAlpacaRosa.com_
(http://www.thealpacarosa.com/)
> > 2251 Sesame St
> > Mogadore, OH 44260
> > 330-699-2182
> > 330-618-9769 cell
> >
> > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes
> > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
> >
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posted by Chaddo at 11:51 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees

So some unnamed breeder told you this, and we should accept this as fact?
Someone told me that one of the big breeders is actually from Mars.
She heard it firsthand from the breeder, so it has to be true.
The lies are here, where is the sex and videotape?

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, cphalpacas@... wrote:
>
> Jess,
> I do not have a right to say who told me this, however she
is a well
> known breeder and if she reads this she will probably speak up.
I was
> really disgusted because I could not afford to go just as any one
of the public
> could attend, vendors and such, and I said I would like to listen
to one
> National Meeting. I was told that people were not allowed to get
in if they had
> not registered and paid. She said not to regret because I could not
get in
> any way.
> Nancy Miller
> Crooked Pine Hollow
> Winterville, GA
>
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2008 12:51:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> alpacas@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree. We were there and there was no
requirement to
> have any credential whatsoever to enter the vendor hall or the
meeting area.
> We did not display our badge nor was there any checkpoint of any
kind in
> that entire building. The only locations at nationals that require
> credentials are the barns; same as previous years.
>
> I challenge anyone that was "refused admittance" to step forward,
identify
> themselves and tell us exactly where they were refused admission
and by
> whom. Again, the only locations that require credential are the
barns, and
> they're a long way from the meeting hall and vendor displays.
>
> The determination by the CPA firm that AOBA had UBI tax liabilities
was
> announced at the meeting. Discussion of the item and subsequent
decision to
> form a subsidiary has also appeared in the BOD minutes. They're
online and
> available to everyone.
>
> The conspiracy theories here are getting deeper than our poop pile.
>
> Jess
>
> Jess & Cookie Bowers
> Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
> Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
> 11006 N 92nd East Ave
> Owasso, OK 74055-6531
> (918) 327-3519
> Fax (918) 272-0969
> WWW.Acresoflove.WWW
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <_cphalpacas@..._ (mailto:cphalpacas@...) >
> To: <_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) >
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees
>
> >I beg to differ with you. People I know of who went this past
summer were
> > refused admittance.
> > Nancy Miller
> > Crooked Pine Hollow
> > Winterville, GA
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/1/2008 3:33:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > _alpacas@acresoflovealpa_ (mailto:alpacas@...) writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes... fees for Nationals are too high. However, you do not have
to pay to
> > attend the AOBA meeting (or ARI meeting, for that matter) as they
are not
> > held in the barn. Those meetings are held in a portion of the
venue that
> > is
> > open to everyone.
> >
> > Jess
> >
> > Jess & Cookie Bowers
> > Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
> > Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
> > 11006 N 92nd East Ave
> > Owasso, OK 74055-6531
> > (918) 327-3519
> > Fax (918) 272-0969
> > WWW.Acresoflove.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes
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posted by Chaddo at 9:47 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

Do either of you read the ARIGrams or are you too busy on a witch hunt
to read?
Yes, you have to change the settings

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@...> wrote:
>
> And if I am not mistaken, now that my memory has been jogged, our
> current settings are the default, and we actually have to change those
> settings so that they are visible. Right?
>
> And it's true, the only time I spend on the ARI site is registering
> animals or looking up pedigrees and offspring of particular animals. I
> don't even know how to look up other members' info!
>
> Heather
>
> On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Stardust Alpacas wrote:
>
> > I sure did not opt out and neither did Heather. I vaguely remember
> > this topic a few months back on alpacasite. It just means we have not
> > gone in and added the information. I don't spend a whole lot of time
> > on the ARI site unless I am registering an animal. Do you? Or does
> > Jess? Sorry for the inconvenience to all that are upset that they
> > can't view our information. We will both be updating the info
shortly.
> > However, it is not like we are invisible and no one knows who we are.
> >
> > Stephanie Zeleny
> > Stardust Alpacas
> > stardustalpacas@...
> > 541.895.0964
> >
> >
> >

> > sesamedame@... wrote:
> > <Hmmm. I don't recall opting out of anything in my ARI
membership, and
> > <having just looked at my membership info online, I can't for the
life
> > <of me find out what you're talking about or where to change
whatever
> > it
> > <is you claim I have opted out of! Do tell, I'd love to change it
> > asap.
> >
> > You've opted not to include your name as owner of your animals
within
> > the
> > ARI database. Instead of listing your name it says 'not published by
> > owner'.
> >
> > This is a simple change made within your acount info.
> >
> > Carolyn Marquette,
> >
> > PartyLite Gifts _PartyLite.com_ (http://www.partylite.us/)
> >
> > The AlpacaRosa _www.TheAlpacaRosa.com_
(http://www.thealpacarosa.com/)
> > 2251 Sesame St
> > Mogadore, OH 44260
> > 330-699-2182
> > 330-618-9769 cell
> >
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posted by Chaddo at 9:41 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

And if I am not mistaken, now that my memory has been jogged, our
current settings are the default, and we actually have to change those
settings so that they are visible. Right?

And it's true, the only time I spend on the ARI site is registering
animals or looking up pedigrees and offspring of particular animals. I
don't even know how to look up other members' info!

Heather

On Jan 2, 2008, at 6:27 PM, Stardust Alpacas wrote:

> I sure did not opt out and neither did Heather. I vaguely remember
> this topic a few months back on alpacasite. It just means we have not
> gone in and added the information. I don't spend a whole lot of time
> on the ARI site unless I am registering an animal. Do you? Or does
> Jess? Sorry for the inconvenience to all that are upset that they
> can't view our information. We will both be updating the info shortly.
> However, it is not like we are invisible and no one knows who we are.
>
> Stephanie Zeleny
> Stardust Alpacas
> stardustalpacas@yahoo.com
> 541.895.0964
>
>
>
> sesamedame@aol.com wrote:
> <Hmmm. I don't recall opting out of anything in my ARI membership, and
> <having just looked at my membership info online, I can't for the life
> <of me find out what you're talking about or where to change whatever
> it
> <is you claim I have opted out of! Do tell, I'd love to change it
> asap.
>
> You've opted not to include your name as owner of your animals within
> the
> ARI database. Instead of listing your name it says 'not published by
> owner'.
>
> This is a simple change made within your acount info.
>
> Carolyn Marquette,
>
> PartyLite Gifts _PartyLite.com_ (http://www.partylite.us/)
>
> The AlpacaRosa _www.TheAlpacaRosa.com_ (http://www.thealpacarosa.com/)
> 2251 Sesame St
> Mogadore, OH 44260
> 330-699-2182
> 330-618-9769 cell
>
> **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes
> (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)
>
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posted by Chaddo at 9:18 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Lies and fabrications

Replies are inline.

On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:05 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:

>
>
> Heather said: "Well, Libby, I am also thankful that I am not on the
> board
> of an organization that sees fit to go through so much to hide what
> they're
> doing from their membership..."
>
> After being confronted to prove what she just said, Heather said: "I
> obviously have no personal knowledge, I only know what I saw in one
> post from a concerned AOBA member which brought this current scandal
> to
> light... and the scandal brought into the open by the "intervenors" a
> few years ago... Something is rotten in Denmark."

No Libby. Anyone can see if they are not trying to divert attention
away from the real issue, is that very few people knew about this
development. I only read about it a few days ago. This is the biggest
stinking pile of claptrap I've seen come from the AOBA board in, oh, 4
years. And I am seriously considering contacting the Tennessee Attorney
General myself to have this thing investigated. But Jerry probably went
to college with him so maybe that would get those who are very
concerned about this nowhere.

>
> My response: So, in spite of the fact that you have no proof of any
> wrongdoing whatsoever, and in spite of what has been disclosed since
> and
> Amy's apology, it isn't stopping you from fabricating stories (polite
> way
> of saying you are lying) and harming good people. Perhaps if people
> did to
> you what you are doing to others you might feel differently about this
> approach?
>
> Heather said: "...and so far to create a for-profit organisation that
> does
> not have to answer to AOBA BOD, who will be perfectly free to divert
> important funds from AOBA and pay its
> directors generous salaries."

It's still not legal for the boardmembers of a Non-Profit to also sit
on the board of a For-Profit which they have created. Wasn't legal,
isn't legal. Who think they won't get salaries? Who thinks the profits
from this spin-off will go to benefit the AOBA membership as a whole?

>
> After being confronted to prove what she said, Heather said: "I don't
> know that either, but a FOR PROFIT company will without doubt PAY its
> board very generously, and those are funds which in the past had gone
> to
> support AOBA activities. Now we'll be paying ALC directors huge
> salaries
> and bonuses (we already pay someone at AOBA nice commissions on ad
> sales!
> Was everyone aware of that?) and we'll be paying more for our AM and
> FRG
> program and Herdsire Edition ads, and even more for that wonderful
> "benefactor" program! Don't believe me? Just wait and watch!"
>
> My response: "So again no facts, no proof of any wrong doing...just
> attacking people on things that "might happen," making assumption
> after
> assumption." You KNOW all this will happen because your crystal ball
> is so
> powerful?" In spite of the fact that none of these people have ever
> done
> anything like this before, you feel comfortable making these
> accusations as
> if they are a foregone conclusion?

Like I said, wait and watch.

>
> Heather said: "...(we already pay someone at AOBA nice commissions on
> ad
> sales! Was everyone aware of that?)
>
> My response: So, I take the bait....if we are paying someone at AOBA
> nice
> commissions on ad sales, who is getting these big commissions on ad
> sales??
> Tell me...a staff member? A Board member? Tell me....WHO? How much? Or
> is this all untrue as well?

All one has to do is read the P&L statements to see that this is true.
I did not fabricate that! Nice try. I don't know who is receiving those
commissions, but someone is, it's on the P&L statements! Don't make
yourself a fool in trying to discredit me when I'm only quoting figures
I saw n AOBA's own financial records! Give the readers a little bit of
credit!

>
> This exercise with you, Heather, was important for me because I now
> know
> that you will do and say anything to make people look bad and win your
> "argument." This site seems to be just a way for you to spread rumors
> and
> fear. This is important information for me to know as I consider your
> future posts and your role as moderator of this site.
> Too bad you don't volunteer more so that you can really appreciate
> how all
> of your conspiracy theories feel to people trying to work for all of
> us.
>
> As for the names of the 15 benefactors and your refusal to answer that
> question which resulted from your post....Ya know, it doesn't matter
> to me
> which benefactors did or did not write to you. What mattered to me is
> finding out if you really had back up for your comments or if you
> were just
> making it up like so many of the others things you have made up.
> Since you
> refuse to answer even this most simple of questions, I have to assume
> that
> like your other examples, it is a fabrication.

Libby, I have received ads and more ads and yet even more ads from
those people who have the memberships directory in the Excel database.
Stop with this frigging stupid line of interrogation, everyone
including me has received those email ads. You all know it.

>
> I think we have beaten this conversation to death on Alpaca Talk and
> I now
> understand your agenda. However, I will continue to ask questions
> about
> bold statements you make. With this in mind, I ask again, who at AOBA
> is
> getting nice commissions on ad sales since that is a "scandal" raised
> by
> you that I have not yet put to rest in my mind and I would like to
> hear
> more. So, who is it and how much are they getting????

Agian, Libby, I don't who this salesperson is, but the last page of the
Alpacas Magazine P&L Statement for the 2nd qtr 2007 (the last one
available) shows this:
Advertising Sales Commisssions YTD $34,673.97

Who gets this? I don't have this information, but it certainly appears
that someone does.

>
> Thanks,
> Libby
>
>
>

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posted by Chaddo at 8:56 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees

Hi Nancy...

There is absolutely no requirement to have a paid conference registration to
attend the National AOBA or ARI meeting. The most recent meetings were held
in the same hall that housed the vendors. Anyone, including the public, had
access to that area and there was no entrance checkpoint for the meeting.
No credentials were required for the area or the meeting, nor for that
entire building, for that matter. Beyond the tribute to Jodi Wever, you
didn't miss a lot.

Jess

Jess & Cookie Bowers
Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
11006 N 92nd East Ave
Owasso, OK 74055-6531
(918) 327-3519
Fax (918) 272-0969
WWW.Acresoflove.com

----- Original Message -----
From: <cphalpacas@aol.com>
To: <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees

> Jess,
> I do not have a right to say who told me this, however she is a
> well
> known breeder and if she reads this she will probably speak up. I was
> really disgusted because I could not afford to go just as any one of the
> public
> could attend, vendors and such, and I said I would like to listen to one
> National Meeting. I was told that people were not allowed to get in if
> they had
> not registered and paid. She said not to regret because I could not get in
> any way.
> Nancy Miller
> Crooked Pine Hollow
> Winterville, GA
>
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2008 12:51:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> alpacas@acresoflove.com writes:
>
>
>
>
> I will respectfully disagree. We were there and there was no requirement
> to
> have any credential whatsoever to enter the vendor hall or the meeting
> area.
> We did not display our badge nor was there any checkpoint of any kind in
> that entire building. The only locations at nationals that require
> credentials are the barns; same as previous years.
>
> I challenge anyone that was "refused admittance" to step forward,
> identify
> themselves and tell us exactly where they were refused admission and by
> whom. Again, the only locations that require credential are the barns,
> and
> they're a long way from the meeting hall and vendor displays.
>
> The determination by the CPA firm that AOBA had UBI tax liabilities was
> announced at the meeting. Discussion of the item and subsequent decision
> to
> form a subsidiary has also appeared in the BOD minutes. They're online
> and
> available to everyone.
>
> The conspiracy theories here are getting deeper than our poop pile.
>
> Jess
>
> Jess & Cookie Bowers
> Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
> Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
> 11006 N 92nd East Ave
> Owasso, OK 74055-6531
> (918) 327-3519
> Fax (918) 272-0969
> WWW.Acresoflove.WWW
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <_cphalpacas@aol.cph_ (mailto:cphalpacas@aol.com) >
> To: <_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) >
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees
>
>>I beg to differ with you. People I know of who went this past summer were
>> refused admittance.
>> Nancy Miller
>> Crooked Pine Hollow
>> Winterville, GA
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 1/1/2008 3:33:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> _alpacas@acresoflovealpa_ (mailto:alpacas@acresoflove.com) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes... fees for Nationals are too high. However, you do not have to pay
>> to
>> attend the AOBA meeting (or ARI meeting, for that matter) as they are
>> not
>> held in the barn. Those meetings are held in a portion of the venue that
>> is
>> open to everyone.
>>
>> Jess
>>
>> Jess & Cookie Bowers
>> Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
>> Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
>> 11006 N 92nd East Ave
>> Owasso, OK 74055-6531
>> (918) 327-3519
>> Fax (918) 272-0969
>> WWW.Acresoflove.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

I sure did not opt out and neither did Heather. I vaguely remember this topic a few months back on alpacasite. It just means we have not gone in and added the information. I don't spend a whole lot of time on the ARI site unless I am registering an animal. Do you? Or does Jess? Sorry for the inconvenience to all that are upset that they can't view our information. We will both be updating the info shortly. However, it is not like we are invisible and no one knows who we are.

Stephanie Zeleny
Stardust Alpacas
stardustalpacas@yahoo.com
541.895.0964



sesamedame@aol.com wrote:
<Hmmm. I don't recall opting out of anything in my ARI membership, and
<having just looked at my membership info online, I can't for the life
<of me find out what you're talking about or where to change whatever it
<is you claim I have opted out of! Do tell, I'd love to change it asap.

You've opted not to include your name as owner of your animals within the
ARI database. Instead of listing your name it says 'not published by owner'.

This is a simple change made within your acount info.

Carolyn Marquette,

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees

Jess,
I do not have a right to say who told me this, however she is a well
known breeder and if she reads this she will probably speak up. I was
really disgusted because I could not afford to go just as any one of the public
could attend, vendors and such, and I said I would like to listen to one
National Meeting. I was told that people were not allowed to get in if they had
not registered and paid. She said not to regret because I could not get in
any way.
Nancy Miller
Crooked Pine Hollow
Winterville, GA


In a message dated 1/2/2008 12:51:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
alpacas@acresoflove.com writes:

I will respectfully disagree. We were there and there was no requirement to
have any credential whatsoever to enter the vendor hall or the meeting area.
We did not display our badge nor was there any checkpoint of any kind in
that entire building. The only locations at nationals that require
credentials are the barns; same as previous years.

I challenge anyone that was "refused admittance" to step forward, identify
themselves and tell us exactly where they were refused admission and by
whom. Again, the only locations that require credential are the barns, and
they're a long way from the meeting hall and vendor displays.

The determination by the CPA firm that AOBA had UBI tax liabilities was
announced at the meeting. Discussion of the item and subsequent decision to
form a subsidiary has also appeared in the BOD minutes. They're online and
available to everyone.

The conspiracy theories here are getting deeper than our poop pile.

Jess

Jess & Cookie Bowers
Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
11006 N 92nd East Ave
Owasso, OK 74055-6531
(918) 327-3519
Fax (918) 272-0969
WWW.Acresoflove.WWW

----- Original Message -----
From: <_cphalpacas@aol.cph_ (mailto:cphalpacas@aol.com) >
To: <_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) >
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Re: AOBA fees

>I beg to differ with you. People I know of who went this past summer were
> refused admittance.
> Nancy Miller
> Crooked Pine Hollow
> Winterville, GA
>
>
> In a message dated 1/1/2008 3:33:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> _alpacas@acresoflovealpa_ (mailto:alpacas@acresoflove.com) writes:
>
>
>
>
> Yes... fees for Nationals are too high. However, you do not have to pay to
> attend the AOBA meeting (or ARI meeting, for that matter) as they are not
> held in the barn. Those meetings are held in a portion of the venue that
> is
> open to everyone.
>
> Jess
>
> Jess & Cookie Bowers
> Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
> Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
> 11006 N 92nd East Ave
> Owasso, OK 74055-6531
> (918) 327-3519
> Fax (918) 272-0969
> WWW.Acresoflove.

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