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Wednesday, March 18, 2009

[AlpacaTalk] Re: bill against farms--HR 875, NAIS, Codex and more

You and Janice are so right this bill (HR 875), its companion bills and
the Codex Trade Agreement also scare the bejesus out of me.
I genuinely believe that as the list of Democratic Representatives grows
that this will turn out to be the real test of "party" power and cooperation.

I am basically non-political - don't have a commitment to either major party.
However, I see no option but to write, better email or call - they don't
get irradiated - to every Representative not on the list and Beg them to
vote down this bill and its companions. If you have read the section on
Definitions they are So vague that there is no limit to the power they are
granting.

I've started seeds, including herbs, for my animals - I will be a double criminal
when this passes, and a felon when I Can the produce I grow, spin the fleece
I shear or breed or sell an animal. When are we going to demand common
sense from these people who are supposed to be representatives of our needs
and freedoms. not corporate greed. Oh, I forgot, there is a Presidential Directive
that says we cannot use "Logical argument" to defend our actions or statements.
Yep, written under Clinton and signed by George Bush.

Take care all and Don't just sit there and think about it --call...
Deborah
Black Pearl Farm
Colbert, WA

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "dreamwoodalpacas" <faileflys@...> wrote:
>
> I just read an article on this and it also could prohibit people from using and collecting their own seeds (due to requiring facilities/equipment no small farms could afford). Ultimately, this would mean everyone would have to buy their seed from large agro companies (can you say GMO). Also, while this MAY not affect alpaca owners right now (and that is a BIG may) many of us also raise poultry and sell the eggs, and/or other livestock for meat. Another shocker in there is they could prohibit the raising of crops and food animals on the same farm!! Apparently similar laws in other countries (EU, India, Iraq) have resulted in the decimation of small and organic farms.
>
> Please, call your senators!
>
> Morgen,
> Claverack, NY
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, CapeCodCat@ wrote:
> >
> > This is a scary bill, granted no one eats alpacas, but the impact is
> > frightening.
> >
> >
> > This is an interesting piece of _legislation_
> > (http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=12671) . It seems the food police want to criminalize
> > organic farming and the backyard gardener. This bill is sitting in committee and
> > we need to contact our legislators about this.
> >
> > Here’s _the bill_ (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.875:)
> > itself.
> >
> >
> >
> > _http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.875_
> > (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.875) :
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pay special attention to Section 3 (which is the definitions portion of the
> > bill-read in it’s entirety) and sections 103, 206 and 207. Read those
> > sections in their entirety.
> >
> >
> >
> > Red flags of this bill:
> >
> >
> > Legally binds state agriculture depts to enforcing federal guidelines
> > effectively taking away the states power to do anything other than being food
> > police for the federal dept.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Effectively criminalizes organic farming but doesn’t actually use the word
> > organic
> > Effects anyone growing food even if they are not selling it but consuming
> > it.
> > Effects anyone producing meat of any kind including wild game.
> > Legislation is so broad based that every aspect of growing or producing food
> > can be made illegal. There are no specifics which is bizarre considering how
> > long the legislation is.
> > Section 103 is almost entirely about the administrative aspect of the
> > legislation. It will allow the appointing of officials from the factory farming
> > corporations and lobbyists and classify them as experts and allow them to
> > determine and interpret the legislation. Who do you think they are going to side
> > with?
> > Section 206 defines what will be considered a food production facility and
> > what will be enforced up all food production facilities. The wording is so
> > broad based that a backyard gardener could be fined and more.
> > Section 207 requires that the state’s agriculture dept act as the food
> > police and enforce the federal requirements. This takes away the states power and
> > is in violation of the 10th amendment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Didn’t Stalin nationalize farming methods that enabled his administration to
> > gain control over the food supply? Didn’t Stalin use the food to control the
> > people?
> >
> > Just for reference, here's who sponsored this:
> >
> >
> > Sponsor: Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. CT {DEM}
> >
> > 39 cosponsors â€"
> > Rep Berkley, Shelley NV {DEM}
> > Rep Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. GA {DEM}
> > Rep Bishop, Timothy H. NY {DEM}
> > Rep Carson, Andre IN {DEM}
> > Rep Castor, Kathy FL {DEM}
> > Rep Courtney, Joe CT {DEM}
> > Rep DeFazio, Peter A. OR {DEM}
> > Rep DeGette, Diana CO {DEM}
> > Rep Engel, Eliot L. NY {DEM}
> > Rep Eshoo, Anna G. CA {DEM}
> > Rep Farr, Sam CA {DEM}
> > Rep Filner, Bob CA {DEM}
> > Rep Giffords, Gabrielle AZ {DEM}
> > Rep Grijalva, Raul M. AZ {DEM}
> > Rep Hall, John J. NY {DEM}
> > Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. NY {DEM}
> > Rep Hirono, Mazie K. HI {DEM}
> > Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice TX {DEM}
> > Rep Kaptur, Marcy OH {DEM}
> > Rep Lee, Barbara CA {DEM}
> > Rep Lowey, Nita M. NY {DEM}
> > Rep McCollum, Betty MN {DEM}
> > Rep McDermott, Jim WA {DEM}
> > Rep McGovern, James P. MA {DEM}
> > Rep Moore, Gwen WI {DEM}
> > Rep Murphy, Christopher S. CT {DEM}
> > Rep Nadler, Jerrold NY {DEM}
> > Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes DC {DEM}
> > Rep Pingree, Chellie ME {DEM}
> > Rep Ryan, Tim OH {DEM}
> > Rep Sanchez, Linda T. CA {DEM}
> > Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. IL {DEM}
> > Rep Schauer, Mark H. MI {DEM}
> > Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh NY {DEM}
> > Rep Stark, Fortney Pete CA {DEM}
> > Rep Sutton, Betty OH {DEM}
> > Rep Tierney, John F. MA {DEM}
> > Rep Wasserman Schultz, Debbie FL {DEM}
> > Rep Wexler, Robert FL {DEM}
> >
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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Bone Tumor: Update :)

Super Duper Fantastic news Jim!! Glad your vet was able to get ahold of
Dr Anderson and you got a definitive answer. What a relief I know that
was :-). Once you told us she was getting around ok I figured she was
alright, but nice to know for sure.
Warmly, Janice in NW GA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Bone Tumor: Update :)

I'm so glad she getting around well! Keeping my fingers crossed that
she continues to improve!

I often wonder what they really know, too. Take em to OSU and they
say well we found this and this and this, but what caused it, I
dunno. And we didn't bother to run that test that might have given an
answer... Aggravating.

Best wishes,
Heather

On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:31 AM, J Guerin wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> After what was a very long time, Amy, my vet finally called Dr.
> Anderson. He had been out. He told her that what we are seeing in
> the x rays, are normal, and there is nothing that he could see to
> show there was any problem.
>
> Brandie has been getting around pretty well. It is these mystery
> things that can drive ya nuts!!
>
> I am very relieved to know there isnt something wrong with her.
> Makes me wonder what OSU actually knows, saying she could have a
> bone tumor, and with them comparing the x rays to other species.
>
> Thought I would let everyone know.
>
> Jim Guerin
> Jimmini Farm
> Yelm, WA

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[AlpacaTalk] Bone Tumor: Update :)

Hi All,

After what was a very long time, Amy, my vet finally called Dr. Anderson. He had been out. He told her that what we are seeing in the x rays, are normal, and there is nothing that he could see to show there was any problem.

Brandie has been getting around pretty well. It is these mystery things that can drive ya nuts!!

I am very relieved to know there isnt something wrong with her. Makes me wonder what OSU actually knows, saying she could have a bone tumor, and with them comparing the x rays to other species.

Thought I would let everyone know.

Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm, WA

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[AlpacaTalk] What did I find in the Barn?

Hi group. Thought maybe someone could help with the mystery of what I found in the barn this morning. It sure looked like a Y shaped placenta that may have been expelled sometime recently. However, it was quite small (6 inches in length)and no sign of fetus. My question is: all of my girls are due April - July so I would assume any fetus lost now would be quite indentifiable. When we spit test our girls in January, I only had one that should have been pregnant but cushed for the boy. If she aborted, could it take this long for her to expel the placenta? I also have an older girl who should not be pregnant but acts like she is. Would an retained CL have that affect?
My second guess is that it is something the cats dragged in and it just looks like a placenta? Could be a mystery that goes unsolved. Any ideas? Thanks and (I know)a vet check will be happening soon for the two questionable girls.
Robin B
B4 Alpacas LLC
Grand Island Nebraska
A-oNE Alpacas of Nebraska

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