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Saturday, August 23, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Goldenseal

hi Janice - well i never argue with the professionals but here in coastal BC the poisonous cherry trees are "prunus serotina" or wild black cherry - on our farm we have "prunus emarginata" called bitter cherry or the local name "bird cherry" and my alpacas and my bunnies eat them and love them - all the trees are nicely pruned as high as the alpacas can reach. They eat the leaves, the twigs and the bark. This has been going on for two years and not one sick animal yet.
The BNP is a wide spectrum opthalmic ointment - it works really well on those cases where an ointment is called for - we never did know how fonzie injured his eye - i presumed he poked himself on a branch, but it was a nasty puncture and it healed just fine.
I want to talk some more to you about goldenseal but will email you privately.
take care
wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
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From: houckj@aol.com
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Goldenseal

<<hi Janice - i'm sorry to hear you have another crisis to look after -
i had a little guy with an eye injury last january and the thing that
seemed to help his eye the most (after the anitbiotic shots) was the BNP
ontment recommended on this listserve - i make sure i always have it on
hand now - we also did gentamicin eye drops every couple of hours for
two weeks, but the last drops were at 10:00 pm and then we started again
in the morning around 7. - Then we went to gentamicin drops twice a day
- Then it was prednazone drops twice a day.. i must say by the time his
eye was healed, this little guy was as tame as a dog.
>>

Hi Wendy,
What happened to your little guy's - alpaca? - eye? I am glad his eye
healed. I am hoping that we will eventually be able to step down to 2x
a day for Allie's eye drops. Every 2-3 hrs is totally taking over my
day; we can't even go anywhere. I cannot fathom doing this at this pace
for 6-8 wks.

What is BNP ointment?
The vet commented that ointments are contraindicated (I had told her I
used the tiny bit of antibiotic opthamalic ointment I had on hand that
morning) and that only eye drops can be used in this situation. Not
sure the details of what that comment referred to.

Warmly, Janice

BTW, I think you mentioned to me that you had some cherry trees but they
were not the toxic species? As soon as I read that I called my county
extension agent as I was spending a lot of $$ to get my cherry trees cut
down and many more $$ to have every last leaf carried out of the pasture
(nd still I was walking the pasture myself picking up every leaf they
left behind). He did some research and told me that *every* species of
cherry is toxic - the bark, the wilted leaves, and the pits. Not only
that, but plums, peaches, apricots are all in the same family and toxic
as well. There goes the wild plum trees in my pasture.

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posted by Chaddo at 2:30 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: Severe Eye Injury

<<You might have solved your mystery! I think the rooster may very well
be the culprit. Their spurs are extremely sharp and can do a lot of
damage. You may need to find a new home for the rooster or get some
help de-spurring him and clip his wings so he cant get into the alpaca
pastures. We had a rooster once who attacked a worker and in the
process broke off one his spurs. There was a lot of blood, or at lest
it looked that way, but after that he was much nicer.

Best of luck with your girl's eye. If the puncture can close up, the
vitreous humor can replenish, and it can indeed be saved.

Keep us posted!
Heather>>

I thought I was grasping at straws when I first suspected that rooster
of my Snowball's injuries; but now I am thinking more and more that was
it. With the eye, I just don't see it being the intact male, nor do I
see it being an outside job (but that duck's disappearance is still a
mystery). I cannot imagine that she would have run into a fence wire or
a tree limb and done that much damage. She has lived in this pasture
her whole life and has never injured herself before on fences or trees.

I was going to try and find him a new home; didn't think about
de-spurring him. I wonder how hard that would be to do.....do you know
how it's done? I have a Mexican fellow cutting out my cherry
trees.....I wonder if he might know; he and his brother kill a bull
every week to sell to restaurants.....maybe they know how to despur a
rooster! I'd like to keep him just because I love his crowing :-). But
he is getting more and more aggressive. He is not very old, maybe 8
mos or so.

Hearing the vitreous humor can replenish is the best news I've heard all
week. The vet didn't say anything about that. She has been quick to
say we have a very poor prognosis and only about a 50/50 chance of
saving the eyeball at all (meaning surgery to remove); and next to zero
chance of any sight returning. It just makes me shiver when I see her
injury (even in my own mind's eye). I thought the slashes on Snowball
were horrible, this is truly awful to see. The poor thing is barely
opening her eye at all since yesterday. It has gone mushy and like I
said earlier, there is red membrane starting to cover her eyeball; I
have no idea what that is. Or what to think about the vet's passing
mention of the Atropine being to prevent adhesion, but telling me no
more about anything I could do to help.

Thanks for the words of encouragement and optimism.
What happened with the kitty?

Warmly, Janice in GA, enjoying a cloudy day today thanks to Hurricane
Faye and my Allie girl doesn't have to stay locked up in the barn out of
the sun. Yippee! I think 6 wks in the tiny barn will drive her out of
mind and put her in deep depression.

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posted by Chaddo at 8:41 AM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: Severe Eye Injury

<<btw....a friend had a similar injury and the eye did indeed heal. It's
looking pretty good and the eye is saved. They think she can see shadows and
vague movement from it. The injury happend first week of June.

Carolyn Marquette,>>

That is great to hear. The vet has said 6-8 wks and that sounds about
what your friend experienced? Or longer? Do you know what she/he did
in particular to save the eye. How did that one injure its eye?

Janice

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posted by Chaddo at 8:29 AM 0 comments