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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade


Most local/regional shows run $25-$30 per dog, some of the performance
events may be a bit closer to $50. Now for speciality's or nationals the prices
are higher. Now of course there is no need for stalling so that saves a bit
and since you don't need to stall the animals on the grounds a show can
accommodate many more dogs than alpacas in a venue.The last show I went to was in
West Palm Beach, FL and there were over 1500 dogs. Interestingly though most
dog shows charge and entry fee to the general public and in my experience
there is no lack of "lay" people wandering around asking questions even with
being charged a few dollars at the door.
And since we are on a subject of things I don't understand why do I have to
pay a membership to ARI? I see paying to register my farm name and for
registry services I guess again it is just not what I am used too.......oh well
c'est la vie.


Allison Aday
Asgard Alpacas
Gibsonville, NC

In a message dated 1/3/2009 2:08:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com writes:

So what are fees for AKC shows?

The question of AOBA/ARI was put to the membership long before I was
a member, and it's still in the AOBA bylaws that one of AOBA's
directives is to set up and maintain a registry, because I guess, ILR
wasn't capable of doing that. 'Nother discussion!

Sigh. So many problems with AOBA. So much crap they've done. And if
you read the bylaws, you'll find the membership isn't entitled to
have an opinion on anything except the BOD election. I've read it
over and over!

Heather

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

So what are fees for AKC shows?

The question of AOBA/ARI was put to the membership long before I was
a member, and it's still in the AOBA bylaws that one of AOBA's
directives is to set up and maintain a registry, because I guess, ILR
wasn't capable of doing that. 'Nother discussion!

Sigh. So many problems with AOBA. So much crap they've done. And if
you read the bylaws, you'll find the membership isn't entitled to
have an opinion on anything except the BOD election. I've read it
over and over!

Heather

On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Morrgraine@aol.com wrote:

>
> Hi Heather,
> The AKC does not charge any type of membership fees. You aren't a
> "member"
> of the AKC the way you are a member of AOBA. The AKC registers dogs
> and
> sanctions/regulates events it is not really a "breeders
> organization". The AKC
> has 500+ member clubs you can be a member of a club and that is
> where you would
> pay membership fees depending on the club. You do not have to be a
> club
> member to participate in AKC events and non-sanctioned clubs can
> hold some AKC
> licensed events. The AKC Gazette runs about $25/year.
> Now the thing to take into account is that the AKC is a registry, its
> primary function is to hold information and to regulate dog shows/
> events. They
> generate over $30 million a year in registration fees alone! There
> total income
> for 2007 was over $70 million with a $10 million surplus. The AKC
> does a lot
> now in promoting pure bred dogs and responsible ownership, they are
> also
> very active in fighting breed specific legislation and in canine
> health
> research. But those are all things that grew over a 120+ year history.
>
> The thing I have always found odd is that ARI registers our animals
> but our
> show records are at AOBA, it just makes more sense to me for those
> two things
> to be housed together....maybe it is just because that is what I am
> used to.
>
> Cheers
>
> Allison Aday
> Asgard Alpacas
> Gibsonville, NC
>
> In a message dated 1/3/2009 1:19:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com writes:
>
> Well that sounds much more reasonable now! What is the membership fee
> for AKC? And do you have to pay extra for the mags? Or do you get one
> sub per year with your membership?
>
> Regardless, I'd never pay for access to AOBA show results!
>
> Heather
>
> **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade


Hi Heather,
The AKC does not charge any type of membership fees. You aren't a "member"
of the AKC the way you are a member of AOBA. The AKC registers dogs and
sanctions/regulates events it is not really a "breeders organization". The AKC
has 500+ member clubs you can be a member of a club and that is where you would
pay membership fees depending on the club. You do not have to be a club
member to participate in AKC events and non-sanctioned clubs can hold some AKC
licensed events. The AKC Gazette runs about $25/year.
Now the thing to take into account is that the AKC is a registry, its
primary function is to hold information and to regulate dog shows/events. They
generate over $30 million a year in registration fees alone! There total income
for 2007 was over $70 million with a $10 million surplus. The AKC does a lot
now in promoting pure bred dogs and responsible ownership, they are also
very active in fighting breed specific legislation and in canine health
research. But those are all things that grew over a 120+ year history.

The thing I have always found odd is that ARI registers our animals but our
show records are at AOBA, it just makes more sense to me for those two things
to be housed together....maybe it is just because that is what I am used to.

Cheers

Allison Aday
Asgard Alpacas
Gibsonville, NC

In a message dated 1/3/2009 1:19:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com writes:

Well that sounds much more reasonable now! What is the membership fee
for AKC? And do you have to pay extra for the mags? Or do you get one
sub per year with your membership?

Regardless, I'd never pay for access to AOBA show results!

Heather

**************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making
headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

Well that sounds much more reasonable now! What is the membership fee
for AKC? And do you have to pay extra for the mags? Or do you get one
sub per year with your membership?

Regardless, I'd never pay for access to AOBA show results!

Heather

On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Morrgraine@aol.com wrote:

>
> You can search for show results online at AKC.org. If you want all
> the show
> results for the last month sent to you on cd it is $65/year (12
> disks). You
> have to figure there are dozen if not hundreds of AKC sanctioned
> events
> every month from conformation to agility and obedience and hunting
> trials so it
> is a load of information.
> Cheers
>
> Allison Aday
> Asgard Alpacas
> Gibsonville, NC

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade


You can search for show results online at AKC.org. If you want all the show
results for the last month sent to you on cd it is $65/year (12 disks). You
have to figure there are dozen if not hundreds of AKC sanctioned events
every month from conformation to agility and obedience and hunting trials so it
is a load of information.
Cheers

Allison Aday
Asgard Alpacas
Gibsonville, NC

In a message dated 1/3/2009 12:28:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com writes:

Alright, well here's something I learned while looking on the AKC
website, it appears you must pay $65 per year to get a bulletin/
newsletter of show winners? Did I read that right? If so, that's
something I don't agree with at all.

Heather

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

Alright, well here's something I learned while looking on the AKC
website, it appears you must pay $65 per year to get a bulletin/
newsletter of show winners? Did I read that right? If so, that's
something I don't agree with at all.

Heather

On Jan 2, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

> Well, I wonder about that. I admit I haven't done any research, but
> what about non-profits like the Nature Conservancy and others that
> have publications to help find their projects? I don't know the
> answer to that. What about other breeder's orgs, like AKC or what
> have you? Do they need a for-profit because they have a magazine? I
> don't know the answer to that, either. But somehow, I just don't
> believe all of what "They" from AOBA tell us, because of so much
> hanky panky and the "dangerous ethical environment" there...
>
> Nope, I just don't believe it.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Creswell, OR
>
> 541.895.0964
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join
>

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posted by Chaddo at 9:28 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

Nope, I never saw it or received it, either. It seems as though the
only messages I'm receiving from AOBA are why I should renew my
membership and what great benefits (opportunities to give them even
more and greater amounts of my money) that I receive from that
membership!

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR

541.895.0964

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On Jan 2, 2009, at 9:12 PM, LunarStruck@aol.com wrote:

> Thanks, Jackie, I never received or saw it.
>
> Susan Olson
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2009 9:04:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> jacquelin.robert@med.ge.com writes:
>
> AOBA has issued a statement that says that anyone that has contributed
> cash can have the money applied to their AOBA account, can have it
> redirected to contribute to a different AOBA project or request a
> refund.
>
> Jacki Robert
> Alpaca Creek Farm
> 1745 Saundersville Road, Hendersonville, TN 37075
> Office - 615.826.9380
> Cell - 615.828.6419
> www.AlpacaCreekFarmwww.A<_http://www.alpacacrhttp://www.a_
> (http://www.alpacacreekfarm.com/) >
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
> [mailto:_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
> (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ] On
> Behalf Of _LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com)
> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:57 PM
> To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade
>
> I agree, Heather. I'm now wondering what they are going to do with the
> Rose
> Parade Float fund.
>
> Susan Olson
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2009 7:16:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> _alpacatalk@westwindalpacatalk@_
> (mailto:alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com)
> <mailto:alpacatalk%mailto:alpacatalmailt>
> writes:
>
> Well, I wonder about that. I admit I haven't done any research, but
> what about non-profits like the Nature Conservancy and others that
> have publications to help find their projects? I don't know the
> answer to that. What about other breeder's orgs, like AKC or what
> have you? Do they need a for-profit because they have a magazine? I
> don't know the answer to that, either. But somehow, I just don't
> believe all of what "They" from AOBA tell us, because of so much
> hanky panky and the "dangerous ethical environment" there...
>
> Nope, I just don't believe it.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Creswell, OR
>
> 541.895.0964
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> __http://www.whitelothttp://www.whi_ (http://www.whitelothttp//
> wwwhtt_)
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> wwwhtt_) >
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>
> On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:28 AM, __tcalpacas@aol._tc_
> (mailto:_tcalpacas@aol.tca)
> <mailto:_tcalpacas%mailto:_t> _ (mailto:_tcalpacas@aol.tca_
> (mailto:tcalpacas@aol.com)
> <mailto:tcalpacas%mailto:tc> )
> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 1/2/2009 12:00:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> > _alpacatalk@ _alpacatalk
> (mailto:_alpacatalk@westwindalpacatalk@_
> (mailto:alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com)
> <mailto:alpacatalk%mailto:alpacatalmailt> )
> writes:
> >
> > > as I thought that if AOBA is crying poor yet still
> > > needing to spin off a for-profit corporation
> >
> > Heather,
> > I not yet convinced that a for profit entity is needed
> > however..... however.
> > understand that amount of revenue has nothing to do with the need
> > for the NFP
> > entity? It's simply an issue of in what manner some of AOBA's
> > revenues were
> > and are generated.
> >
> > Elden Harms
> > Token Creek Alpacas LLC
> > Sun Prairie WI
> > Landline: 608.825.9222
> > Cell: 608.215.4623
> > www.alpacanation. www.alpaca
> >
> > Looking for superior customer service? Lean on Token Creek Alpacas,
> > you'll
> > be well supported.
> >
> > ************ *
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

Thanks, Jackie, I never received or saw it.

Susan Olson
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA


In a message dated 1/2/2009 9:04:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jacquelin.robert@med.ge.com writes:

AOBA has issued a statement that says that anyone that has contributed
cash can have the money applied to their AOBA account, can have it
redirected to contribute to a different AOBA project or request a
refund.

Jacki Robert
Alpaca Creek Farm
1745 Saundersville Road, Hendersonville, TN 37075
Office - 615.826.9380
Cell - 615.828.6419
www.AlpacaCreekFarmwww.A<_http://www.alpacacrhttp://www.a_
(http://www.alpacacreekfarm.com/) >

________________________________

From: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
[mailto:_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ] On
Behalf Of _LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com)
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:57 PM
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

I agree, Heather. I'm now wondering what they are going to do with the
Rose
Parade Float fund.

Susan Olson
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 1/2/2009 7:16:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
_alpacatalk@westwindalpacatalk@_ (mailto:alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com)
<mailto:alpacatalk%mailto:alpacatalmailt>
writes:

Well, I wonder about that. I admit I haven't done any research, but
what about non-profits like the Nature Conservancy and others that
have publications to help find their projects? I don't know the
answer to that. What about other breeder's orgs, like AKC or what
have you? Do they need a for-profit because they have a magazine? I
don't know the answer to that, either. But somehow, I just don't
believe all of what "They" from AOBA tell us, because of so much
hanky panky and the "dangerous ethical environment" there...

Nope, I just don't believe it.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR

541.895.0964

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
__http://www.whitelothttp://www.whi_ (http://www.whitelothttp//wwwhtt_)
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On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:28 AM, __tcalpacas@aol._tc_ (mailto:_tcalpacas@aol.tca)
<mailto:_tcalpacas%mailto:_t> _ (mailto:_tcalpacas@aol.tca_
(mailto:tcalpacas@aol.com)
<mailto:tcalpacas%mailto:tc> )
wrote:

> In a message dated 1/2/2009 12:00:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> _alpacatalk@ _alpacatalk
(mailto:_alpacatalk@westwindalpacatalk@_
(mailto:alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com)
<mailto:alpacatalk%mailto:alpacatalmailt> )
writes:
>
> > as I thought that if AOBA is crying poor yet still
> > needing to spin off a for-profit corporation
>
> Heather,
> I not yet convinced that a for profit entity is needed
> however..... however.
> understand that amount of revenue has nothing to do with the need
> for the NFP
> entity? It's simply an issue of in what manner some of AOBA's
> revenues were
> and are generated.
>
> Elden Harms
> Token Creek Alpacas LLC
> Sun Prairie WI
> Landline: 608.825.9222
> Cell: 608.215.4623
> www.alpacanation. www.alpaca
>
> Looking for superior customer service? Lean on Token Creek Alpacas,
> you'll
> be well supported.
>
> ************ *
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posted by Chaddo at 9:12 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

AOBA has issued a statement that says that anyone that has contributed
cash can have the money applied to their AOBA account, can have it
redirected to contribute to a different AOBA project or request a
refund.

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Cell - 615.828.6419
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From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of LunarStruck@aol.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:57 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpacas in Rose Parade

I agree, Heather. I'm now wondering what they are going to do with the
Rose
Parade Float fund.

Susan Olson
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 1/2/2009 7:16:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com <mailto:alpacatalk%40westwindalpacas.com>
writes:

Well, I wonder about that. I admit I haven't done any research, but
what about non-profits like the Nature Conservancy and others that
have publications to help find their projects? I don't know the
answer to that. What about other breeder's orgs, like AKC or what
have you? Do they need a for-profit because they have a magazine? I
don't know the answer to that, either. But somehow, I just don't
believe all of what "They" from AOBA tell us, because of so much
hanky panky and the "dangerous ethical environment" there...

Nope, I just don't believe it.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR

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On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:28 AM, _tcalpacas@aol.tca
<mailto:_tcalpacas%40aol.tca> _ (mailto:tcalpacas@aol.com
<mailto:tcalpacas%40aol.com> )
wrote:

> In a message dated 1/2/2009 12:00:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> _alpacatalk@westwindalpacatalk@_
(mailto:alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com
<mailto:alpacatalk%40westwindalpacas.com> )
writes:
>
> > as I thought that if AOBA is crying poor yet still
> > needing to spin off a for-profit corporation
>
> Heather,
> I not yet convinced that a for profit entity is needed
> however..... however.
> understand that amount of revenue has nothing to do with the need
> for the NFP
> entity? It's simply an issue of in what manner some of AOBA's
> revenues were
> and are generated.
>
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posted by Chaddo at 8:39 PM 0 comments