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Saturday, April 03, 2010

[AlpacaTalk] AOBA ELECTION DISCLOSURE STATEMENT - CURRENT BOARD SHOULD FILL THEM OUT AS WELL!

 

Aoba candidate disclosure statements.

Wow, Since I was feeling curious already this evening from AOBA's current e-blast I decided to go visit my AOBA site.
I remember the latest woo ha was about disclosure statements, and who would and wouldn't fill them out? So I decided to go have a look and see what all this was about.
It is Certainly a new disclosure statement, not the one from years past. Some very pointed and invasive questions for sure.

Here was a list of the questions as listed on the disclosure form from the AOBA website:

It seems to me if the candidates have to fill all of this information out, then all current board members should have to as well.

a: Please list all clients TO whom you have given or sold an alpaca with a fair market value of more than $100.00 within the past 24 months.

b: Please list all clients FROM whom you have purchased or received alpaca products (not breeding fees) with a fair market value of greater than $5000.00 within the last 24 months

c: Please list all clients FROM whom you have purchased or received other alpaca related services including but not limited to breedings, consulting services, teaching, training or speaking within the past 24 months.

d: Please list all clients FROM whom you have purchased or received alpaca products (not breeding fees) with a fair market value of greater than $5000.00 within the last 24 months

e: Please list all clients FROM whom you have purchased or received an alpaca with a fair market value of more than $100.00 within the past 24 months.

f: Please list all clients TO whom you have given or sold other alpaca related services including but not limited to breedings, consulting services, teaching, training or speaking within the past 24 months.

g: Please list all clients TO whom you have given or sold alpaca products (not breeding) with a fair market value of greater than $5000.00 within the last 24 months

h: Have you or any company in which you held a controlling interest or sat as an officer, ever been in
bankruptcy or reorganization? If YES, explain

I call to ALL board members that if you are going to have the candidates fill out these disclosures then every current AOBA board member should have to as well.

These are quite invasive questions. And if it is to be required of new board members then sitting ones should certainly need to answer them as well.

Vida Palmer
Kuska Paku Farm
www.kuskapaku.com
Moss Point, Ms

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[AlpacaTalk] Todays AOBA Update - Alpacas Magazine Update

 

Did you all get this message today..
I read it again and now I am even more irritated..

This all goes back to the board 3 years ago that some now current board members spouses were on.. That board took away the free magazine.. and thoroughly ticked off a lot of members. They rampaged through everything and AOBA was a big boy only shop.

but it was fine.. it saved money..
or should I say it MADE - AOBA money.. I personally just waited and bought mine for that year for $5.00 on the site when they were outdated. I wanted my magazine, but certainly didn't need any more AOBA rip offs much past the already awful member fee + show fee + the absolute ripoffs of not every members farm being available on-line, but you can pay AOBA even more and have your farm listed too. ( A TOTAL JUST FOR THE RICH BOY THING!)

Then we got some GREAT NEW board members and eliminated the 'Good Ole boy thing', and one of the first orders of business was to reinstate our FREE member magazine! THANK GOODNESS, A GREAT DAY!
Also to get every farm listed, the final FAIR game of AOBA leads..
As you all know before, your farm needed to be wealthy to get the good leads. The rest of us and the small farmers were left with the several month old used up ones.

We had a great new Pres., David you were doing an awesome job!

Then this past year.. A total wreck.. The good ole feller attitude is back.. Chased off (for lack of a better term) some really great folks, including the executive director, office staff, and anyone not on the right side of the fence.
A total mess all year, with if anything a regression of progress.

Headed right back to where we were, and the magazine is just another one of the many things that seemed to be on a doomsday with this.

AOBA worries about shows, another place we get to spend money.. Seeing as it is such a great time right now to spend a lot. Many members cannot, or do not go to shows. but they do read the magazine and are active members in other areas of the organization.

So all I really got out of today's e-blast is that my yearly membership dues + my show membership ( for the 1 or 2 shows I can make it to) + the fees I pay at the shows are not enough to receive a magazine subscription?
Plus a load of whining by those that already thought this was fixed by making us pay for that too. It has been brought to the board 2 times recently and both times the board voted no. The magazine stays.

Yet defeat on that issue can not be withstood, new board members must push on to insure the failure of Alpaca Magazine, and whatever else they can drag down with it.

Just exactly what does an AOBA membership get you?

and a final note. All that eBLAST really told me was that they want us to pay to fill the Magazine up with Junk (ads) and spend more money.
The cost of that magazine are NOT losses! They are the cost for that form of advertising and a VERY GOOD ONE! Alpaca magazine has done a wonderful job for this industry for many many years and has always been a dependable way to introduce alpacas.

Guess that eblast just ruffled my feathers a little,
Vida Palmer
Kuska Paku
Moss Point, Ms
www.kuskapaku.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

I had to go around looking for things that could affect fencing plans and, Catherine, one of the first things I had to deal with was a wild cherry. It was outside the planned fencing but I am planning to have it cut down anyway just to be sure. All my other trees are just maples etc and shade trees for the pacas. I am fortunate to have several where they can cush and chill and with the overhang design I think they will be cooler inside than out.

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Catherine Fitch <FaerieSpun@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Poisonous plants--I have heard that wild cherries can be poisonous for Alpacas and even kill them.

Catherine Fitch
FaerieSpun





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Dee
FutureAlpacas
Goshen, Virginia

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

Poisonous plants--I have heard that wild cherries can be poisonous for Alpacas and even kill them.

Catherine Fitch
FaerieSpun


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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

I know for a fact that our fleece grows slower because its so much warmer here"
 
Interesting Susan - what are your facts?  I have heard many times from breeders that insist this is true, I have my doubts.  While it may be intuitive that fleece grows less in warmer temps, (BTW what is the definition of warmer?) I'm not yet convinced,
 

Elden Harms




-----Original Message-----
From: barngirrl@aol.com
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Apr 3, 2010 4:10 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 
I know for a fact that our fleece grows slower because its so much warmer here - I would think in a cooler wooded area it would grow longer but you never know.  I would be more concerned about predators - if you have a good hotwire top and bottom and patrol your woods for any poisonous plants, I don't see a problem with it. 
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
http://www.openherd.com/FarmPage.aspx?Farm=433

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

I know for a fact that our fleece grows slower because its so much warmer here - I would think in a cooler wooded area it would grow longer but you never know.  I would be more concerned about predators - if you have a good hotwire top and bottom and patrol your woods for any poisonous plants, I don't see a problem with it. 
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA
http://www.openherd.com/FarmPage.aspx?Farm=433

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

That was my thought, too, a skirting nightmare. Other than that, I see no problem with alpacas being under trees. 


Although I know of one person who co-owned a champion male, and who has a very wooded pasture. The year he spent at that farm, apparently, his fleece length was shorter than it had been the previous years.  Now, I don't know for certain that lack of direct sunlight will make the fleece grow slower, but his other owner was very upset and was certain that was the reason. :) 


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Judith Korff/Ladysong Farm wrote:


My farm is what's called a "sun trap" which means it's open to the east and hugged on the north, west and south by timbered land.  I only own about 30 feet into the woods, and there is no fencing between parts of the pasture and the woods.  The alps will only go in about 20 feet or so. They do enjoy lying in the wooded areas when it's very hot in the summer, but also don't appear comfortable getting out of sight of the open land.  The only time they venture any farther into the timbered area is if the boys get fighting and someone gets chased farther in.  However, they don't stay any longer than they have to, and never go in the woods after dark.  I suppose it also helps that there is a steep hill about 50 feet in that would be hard to traverse. 
 
The worst thing about their going in/near the woods is that woodlands tend to "creep" toward your pastures, so there's lots of scrub, brambles and burdocks bordering the woods which can make for a shearing and skirting nightmare.   I'm hoping to get someone with a brush hog out this year to clean up the edges, and then pour a salt channel and lay PermaNet fencing to block off the woodlands.  It's not that I think they'll wander, but rather to prevent wildlife and dogs from coming up to the farm through the woods and accessing my pastures from the unprotected areas.
 
Judith Korff
LadySong Farm
Music to Your Wallet
Randolph, New York 14772 
Cell: (716) 499-0383
 



From: Ken <bushwacker37@hotmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 11:44:59 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

Everything I have read or heard states that alpaca do well on dry lots or pastures/fields but what about wooded areas ? I have mine on a acre lot that is mostly wooded. They seem to enjoy it. When they get the run of the "front yard", 5 plus acres, they really enjoy the open space and fresh greens. But there is another 10 acres they have never attempted into explore in the woods. I am kind of happy because as soon as I can't see them I go out looking for them but still I wonder. Any ideas ?

Ken Hoh
Alpaca Hoh Ranch
Owneton, Ky



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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

My farm is what's called a "sun trap" which means it's open to the east and hugged on the north, west and south by timbered land.  I only own about 30 feet into the woods, and there is no fencing between parts of the pasture and the woods.  The alps will only go in about 20 feet or so. They do enjoy lying in the wooded areas when it's very hot in the summer, but also don't appear comfortable getting out of sight of the open land.  The only time they venture any farther into the timbered area is if the boys get fighting and someone gets chased farther in.  However, they don't stay any longer than they have to, and never go in the woods after dark.  I suppose it also helps that there is a steep hill about 50 feet in that would be hard to traverse. 
 
The worst thing about their going in/near the woods is that woodlands tend to "creep" toward your pastures, so there's lots of scrub, brambles and burdocks bordering the woods which can make for a shearing and skirting nightmare.   I'm hoping to get someone with a brush hog out this year to clean up the edges, and then pour a salt channel and lay PermaNet fencing to block off the woodlands.  It's not that I think they'll wander, but rather to prevent wildlife and dogs from coming up to the farm through the woods and accessing my pastures from the unprotected areas.
 
Judith Korff
LadySong Farm
Music to Your Wallet
Randolph, New York 14772 
Cell: (716) 499-0383
 



From: Ken <bushwacker37@hotmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 11:44:59 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Wooded lots

 

Everything I have read or heard states that alpaca do well on dry lots or pastures/fields but what about wooded areas ? I have mine on a acre lot that is mostly wooded. They seem to enjoy it. When they get the run of the "front yard", 5 plus acres, they really enjoy the open space and fresh greens. But there is another 10 acres they have never attempted into explore in the woods. I am kind of happy because as soon as I can't see them I go out looking for them but still I wonder. Any ideas ?

Ken Hoh
Alpaca Hoh Ranch
Owneton, Ky

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