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Thursday, January 20, 2011

[AlpacaTalk] MOPACA members -please help

 

I am sorry to keep bringing up this llama rescue in Montana. Most of the llamas have been removed from the property -thanks to EVERYONE and their support. I'm sure you could all guess that donations have been solicited from businesses and groups everywhere with mostly positive results.
I am am disappointed, however, by the response from MOPACA. They were contacted requesting that a halter donation bin be placed at their March show (specifically for the MLAS rescues). Here is the response:

"I've spoke with the MOPACA Board of Directors and President, and had a conference with a few of the show committee members on this request and as much as we feel the pain of this unfortunate situation, we feel that since we are an alpaca show, that this may not be well received by our other paid vendors and/or alpaca exhibitors. Some may be okay with it…some may not. An alternative idea, and you would have to talk directly with them, but one of our vendors will be Quality Llama – perhaps you can set something up with them – where folks buy a llama halter from them and donate it to your cause, but they do this out of their booth. Just a thought. ~Kim Baake MOPACA Administrative Asst. www.mopaca.org"

Alpaca people have stepped up and helped these poor llamas more than any group I know! You are the most compassionate group I have ever had the privilege of being associated with!
I am asking all MOPACA members to email or call the BOD and ask them to reconsider. It would not cost MOPACA anything to honor this request. Please, if you can, let them know how much it would help.
Thank you all for your time and understanding.
Linda
Linda Lachanski
Pic A Paca Dreams Alpaca Farm
14 Courtney Drive
Delanson, NY 12053
(518) 875-6503
(518) 810-7925
picapacadreams@nycap.rr.com
www.alpacasofny.com
Home of Alpaca911 Rescue

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] vitamins for alpacas

 

We use beet pulp in the winter, however we use plain pulp as opposed to molasses added.

We find the pulp aides in digestion particularly when hot water is added to make a nice, warm, morning meal. We find this "mash" helps to prevent possible impaction, which can occur should animals back off water in the winter.

We don't feed them much grain/ pulp during the winter, and we feed no additional feed stuffs once they're on pasture in the early spring.

Works outs beautifully.

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC
Marydel, MD

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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:10:06 -0800
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] vitamins for alpacas

 

I agree, they do not need grain at all, and moving to alfalfa is a good choice. We haven't tried chopped alfalfa, but we do supplement with dairy alfalfa hay or sometimes alfalfa pellets. They are a larger size pellet than our alpaca pellet, so we find it's necessary to soften them with a bit of water overnight so they have an easier time eating them. Many people do use beet pulp as a supplement, but it is high in sugar, which acts similar to starch in the gut and raises the acidity, increasing the risk of ulcer, and death from perforated ulcer. If you are using the beet pulp for added energy in cold months, consider using flax seed or rice bran instead. 


We also make sure to have free choice loose minerals available all the time. We use Stillwater 104, and they love it. Stillwater minerals do have vitamins, and I believe shipping is free when you order from them. At least it was last time we ordered.

We also supplement crias with oral ADEB paste from ValleyVet.com monthly. 

Many breeders don't feed a pelleted supplement, only hay and free choice mineral. And frankly, I'd double check the values on the sheep minerals. The Stillwater minerals are formulated for alpacas and llamas needs.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece





On Jan 19, 2011, at 6:04 PM, jelizabethfarms1@bellsouth.net wrote:

 

I would like to revisit a topic we have discussed here before - feeding
grain/pellets.

I am wanting to get my pacas off purchased pellets. I am not in a
position to use a custom mill or any other expensive option. I need
to accomplish 2 things - to cut my expenses drastically and to keep my
alpacas healthy, which knock on wood and thank heavens they have been
now for a long time.

I do not think they need grain and that it is not a natural food for
them. I have long done it mainly to keep them "trained" to come to the
barn or catch pen when I want them to.
What I am wanting to do is just start giving them a handful of chopped
alfalfa as a treat instead of their pellets. I've tried alfalfa chunks
in the past but they did not go over too well. Now my Tractor Supply
is carrying a chopped alfalfa bale that would be easy to feed in their
feeding trays. And I could still topdress with the beet pulp I give
them and use as the carrier for the minerals and DE when I use it (tho I
have stopped using it in their feed).

They have free choice Bermuda hay; and I have been using the sheep
minerals (used to use Dr Evans but can no longer afford so switched to
the sheep minerals from Tractor Supply this past year per a discussion
on list here).

What I am concerned about is the vitamins that the pelleted feed is
fortified with and how will I make sure they are getting the proper
vitamins if I stop using this commercial feed?

Thanks! Janice


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