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Wednesday, November 12, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Old Boys Club

It seems that people for some reason don't know anymore what the "Old
Boy's Club" or network is. It does not refer to the pioneers in a
field, it does not refer to "good ole boys". The Old Boy's Club is seen
as closed network who control business and do business amongst
themselves.

Remember those commercials recently about the bankers sitting at the
huge mahogany desk, with the small business man asking for a loan? He
was about 6 inches high... Remember that commercial? The distinguished
white haired banker flicked the small business owner into the
wastebin...

That is the Old Boy's Club. And that is how many of us small breeders
feel the alpaca industry is.

On Nov 12, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Michael A. Morack wrote:

> I want to take a moment to thank the older members of the Alpaca
> Community and some insight into why.

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Question for AOBA Board re changes

Hello Mary,

I'll forward them to you off line. No problem.
Libby

Libby Forstner
Magical Farms, Inc.
Litchfield Ohio
(330)667-3233

"Mary Meacher" <memeacher@yahoo.com>
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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Question for AOBA Board re changes

Working a full time job, running a farm, and raising a family by
myself, I don't get a lot of time to read, darnit!! Libby, where did
you read this? I went through most of the 110 emails I got over the
past 24 hours and didn't see anything there. where is this info?

Mary

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alpaca de la Pacifica"
<alpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Ladies and all:
>
> We read the same....but also felt the same about the email blast
regarding
> pre-purchase of pens for nationals.....since when are we selling
unlimited
> pens to ANYONE??? prepaid or not.
>
> Last we understood, there was issue with how many pens could be
had in most
> prior years....and this may well leave folks out who wanted to
> attended......as they may not have the option later.......and
currently are
> unsure if they can make it.
>
> This may not leave too much room for the small ranches
later....????
>
> Tina
>
>
>
>
>
> John & Tina Malkus
> Alpaca de la Pacifica
> Somis, Ca.
> www.alpacadelapacifica.com
>
> Home of Shazam.........Gray Herdsire
> 31 Ribbons, 8 Color Champions, and Champion offspring!!
> It doesn't get any better
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:19 AM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Question for AOBA Board re changes
>
>
> Yup, I saw that and was a little bit shocked.
>
> Looks like no matter who sits on the board, they just think less
and
> less about their members all the time.
>
> Heather
>
> On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:13 AM, libby@... wrote:
>
> > Message to Ian Watt and Jess Bowers, newly elected AOBA Board
members
> > who
> > are on alpacasite with a copy of the question to AOBA Board of
> > Directors
> > though President David Barboza and a request for a Board
response:
> >
> > I awoke this morning to find the Affiliate Congress abolished and
> > a new organizational structure in place for AOBA. I have one
question
> > only at this time and it is:
> > are these changes final i.e. a done deal or just topics being
> > presented to
> > the membership for discussion?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Libby
> >
> > Libby Forstner
> > Magical Farms, Inc.
> > Litchfield Ohio
> > (330)667-3233
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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11/11/2008
> 7:32 PM
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Question for AOBA Board re changes

Working a full time job, running a farm, and raising a family by
myself, I don't get a lot of time to read, darnit!! Libby, where did
you read this? I went through most of the 110 emails I got over the
past 24 hours and didn't see anything there. where is this info?

Mary

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alpaca de la Pacifica"
<alpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Ladies and all:
>
> We read the same....but also felt the same about the email blast
regarding
> pre-purchase of pens for nationals.....since when are we selling
unlimited
> pens to ANYONE??? prepaid or not.
>
> Last we understood, there was issue with how many pens could be
had in most
> prior years....and this may well leave folks out who wanted to
> attended......as they may not have the option later.......and
currently are
> unsure if they can make it.
>
> This may not leave too much room for the small ranches
later....????
>
> Tina
>
>
>
>
>
> John & Tina Malkus
> Alpaca de la Pacifica
> Somis, Ca.
> www.alpacadelapacifica.com
>
> Home of Shazam.........Gray Herdsire
> 31 Ribbons, 8 Color Champions, and Champion offspring!!
> It doesn't get any better
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:19 AM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Question for AOBA Board re changes
>
>
> Yup, I saw that and was a little bit shocked.
>
> Looks like no matter who sits on the board, they just think less
and
> less about their members all the time.
>
> Heather
>
> On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:13 AM, libby@... wrote:
>
> > Message to Ian Watt and Jess Bowers, newly elected AOBA Board
members
> > who
> > are on alpacasite with a copy of the question to AOBA Board of
> > Directors
> > though President David Barboza and a request for a Board
response:
> >
> > I awoke this morning to find the Affiliate Congress abolished and
> > a new organizational structure in place for AOBA. I have one
question
> > only at this time and it is:
> > are these changes final i.e. a done deal or just topics being
> > presented to
> > the membership for discussion?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Libby
> >
> > Libby Forstner
> > Magical Farms, Inc.
> > Litchfield Ohio
> > (330)667-3233
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1782 - Release Date:
11/11/2008
> 7:32 PM
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Question for AOBA Board re changes

Hello Ladies and all:

We read the same....but also felt the same about the email blast regarding
pre-purchase of pens for nationals.....since when are we selling unlimited
pens to ANYONE??? prepaid or not.

Last we understood, there was issue with how many pens could be had in most
prior years....and this may well leave folks out who wanted to
attended......as they may not have the option later.......and currently are
unsure if they can make it.

This may not leave too much room for the small ranches later....????

Tina

John & Tina Malkus
Alpaca de la Pacifica
Somis, Ca.
www.alpacadelapacifica.com

Home of Shazam.........Gray Herdsire
31 Ribbons, 8 Color Champions, and Champion offspring!!
It doesn't get any better

-----Original Message-----
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:19 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Question for AOBA Board re changes

Yup, I saw that and was a little bit shocked.

Looks like no matter who sits on the board, they just think less and
less about their members all the time.

Heather

On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:13 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:

> Message to Ian Watt and Jess Bowers, newly elected AOBA Board members
> who
> are on alpacasite with a copy of the question to AOBA Board of
> Directors
> though President David Barboza and a request for a Board response:
>
> I awoke this morning to find the Affiliate Congress abolished and
> a new organizational structure in place for AOBA. I have one question
> only at this time and it is:
> are these changes final i.e. a done deal or just topics being
> presented to
> the membership for discussion?
>
> Thank you,
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms, Inc.
> Litchfield Ohio
> (330)667-3233
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1782 - Release Date: 11/11/2008
7:32 PM

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Question for AOBA Board re changes

Yup, I saw that and was a little bit shocked.

Looks like no matter who sits on the board, they just think less and
less about their members all the time.

Heather

On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:13 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:

> Message to Ian Watt and Jess Bowers, newly elected AOBA Board members
> who
> are on alpacasite with a copy of the question to AOBA Board of
> Directors
> though President David Barboza and a request for a Board response:
>
> I awoke this morning to find the Affiliate Congress abolished and
> a new organizational structure in place for AOBA. I have one question
> only at this time and it is:
> are these changes final i.e. a done deal or just topics being
> presented to
> the membership for discussion?
>
> Thank you,
> Libby
>
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms, Inc.
> Litchfield Ohio
> (330)667-3233
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Let them eat cake.Last response by Libby--wait 1 question!

Hi Libby,

I'm dying to know -- you said "I also learned the hard way that HOW you
show alpacas is as important as what you show."

Would you mind elaborating? I will hopefully be showing my first
alpacas in the spring and would love some pointers.

Thanks,
Morgen

Morgen Bowers
Dreamwood Farm
Claverack, NY
www.alpacanation.com/dreamwoodfarm.asp

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