alpacas: 03/12/09

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators and QUESTION for all

Deafening silence from the Pacific Northwest. :)

Since we suffer with so much rain, overcast sky, and mud, we are
blessed with very little fly problem, at least on the western side of
the Cascade and Olympic mountain ranges. If we had flies, too, I'd be
feeling like Job by now! We just try to keep the poop removed, and
when flies do get thick, we use Eqyss Marigold spray. Smells very
nice, although the alpacas hate being sprayed. We don't have much
need for fly predators, either, although I hear they work well. I'm
all for them and would certainly give them a try if we had a need for
them.

Heather

On Mar 12, 2009, at 9:21 PM, LunarStruck@aol.com wrote:

> Don't you just love those neighbors? I swear, they must PLANT those
> burr
> bushes right next to our pastures. LOL My horses always used to
> stick their
> heads over and get them all in their forelocks and manes until I
> put up the
> top hotwire, that was the best thing I ever did.
>
> I wait until the Avon Skin So Soft is on sale or get it at the
> swapmeet,
> then I buy up a bunch and add it to my horses' flyspray too. You
> just put some
> lightly on your hands and rub it in and on the alpacas' ears and
> around their
> eyes. I think it is much less irritating than flyspray for their
> eye areas,
> but I never put it closer than an inch to their eye just in case. I've
> never had an animal have a problem with it. It works great on
> biting knats and
> no-see-ums, too.
>
> One of my horse friends told me to rub a dryer static sheet in the
> alpaca's
> fleece or on the horses before a trail ride and it worked on the
> trail ride,
> but I haven't tried it on the alpacas yet. Its easier to spray them.
>
> QUESTION: What type of flyspray do you guys all use in your automatic
> flyspray systems? Does it get on their hay?
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators and QUESTION for all

Don't you just love those neighbors? I swear, they must PLANT those burr
bushes right next to our pastures. LOL My horses always used to stick their
heads over and get them all in their forelocks and manes until I put up the
top hotwire, that was the best thing I ever did.

I wait until the Avon Skin So Soft is on sale or get it at the swapmeet,
then I buy up a bunch and add it to my horses' flyspray too. You just put some
lightly on your hands and rub it in and on the alpacas' ears and around their
eyes. I think it is much less irritating than flyspray for their eye areas,
but I never put it closer than an inch to their eye just in case. I've
never had an animal have a problem with it. It works great on biting knats and
no-see-ums, too.

One of my horse friends told me to rub a dryer static sheet in the alpaca's
fleece or on the horses before a trail ride and it worked on the trail ride,
but I haven't tried it on the alpacas yet. Its easier to spray them.

QUESTION: What type of flyspray do you guys all use in your automatic
flyspray systems? Does it get on their hay?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/12/2009 9:10:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
wendy.edwards@shaw.ca writes:

hi Susan - my alpaca boys get burrs in their topknots from my neighbor's
plants - no matter how many i pull out, they find one to stick their head in.
but they don't walk in them so i never see them on their legs.
I love the smell of skin so soft - and i've heard before that it is good for
keeping mosquitos off people, i just wondered about the ears being more
sensitive. I 'll try it on the alpacas - they don't like anything put on their
faces but i can't stand to see the flies on them.

it gets hot here in the valley but the alpacas have lots of shade and wading
pools - i also hose them off twice a day when it's really hot

they're going to smell very nice this summer - the avon lady will love me
thanks
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC

----- Original Message -----
From: _LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com)
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Wendy - don't your alpacas get burrs? We take all the fiber off, even
topknots on some of them. I spent a fun-filled morning removing all the
neighbor's lovely burr plants from the outside of the pasture AGAIN. It gets
a lot
hotter here than where you are, so I like to remove all the fleece. LOL

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/12/2009 7:45:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
_wendy.edwards@wendy.e_ (mailto:wendy.edwards@shaw.ca) writes:

i looked at the website and i don't know if that would work for my alpacas,
i don't have nice smooth pasture and they are out in the brush all spring,
summer and fall - the boots might get caught up on something - i'm planning
on
leaving their fibre on from the knees down to give them some protection.

Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
www.dreamweaveralpawww.dr
----- Original Message -----
From: rollinridge
To: _AlpacaTalk@To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogro_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) )
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:06 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Fly boots are like wrap around fly masks for the legs with two velco straps.
Made the horses look like they were wearing knee socks. They worked GREAT!!!
We picked them up at our local tack shop but you can get them online - we
didn't get the expensive ones (they can cost up to $80! We spent like $20)
Here's a like to some that look like them (and they're re'usable - hose them
off)

__http://www.smartpakhttp://www.http://www.http://wwhttp://www.smahtt&_
(http://www.smartpakhttp//www.http://www.smhttp://www.smarthttp://w&) cm_m
mc=Frocm_cm_cm_ccm_cm_
(_http://www.smartpakhttp://www.http://www.smhttp://www.smarthttp://w&cm_
mmc=Frocm_mmccm_mcm_mm_
(http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=3535&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shopping%20Feed-_-NA-_-13535)
)

Ridgley

--- In _AlpacaTalk@--- In _AlpacaTalk@y_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ) ,
"Wendy Edwards" <wendy.edwards@wen> wrote:
>
> hi Ridgley - what are fly boots?
>
> We used DE last year but just sprinkled on the manure piles - it didn't
seem to make much difference - this year i am going to feed it to the
alpacas
and see if that helps.
>
> i've tried fly spray, wipes and roll-on. Nothing seemed to last for long.
Does anyone use the alpaca fly-masks i've seen advertised?
>
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> BC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rollinridge
> To: _AlpacaTalk@ To: _AlpacaTalk@<WBR_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) )
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:17 AM
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators
>
>
> Glad you brought that up :-) (one of my future questions). We tried them
for the first time last year with our (2) horses and my husband and I kept
asking each other all summer long whether we noticed any difference. (As we
shovelled the manure). We're in NJ. We have friends in MD that say they're
wonderful which is why we tried them. But I really don't think it helped.
Their
website says it can take a couple of years for them to really "kick in" -
but I
think I'll stick with my fashionable fly boots.
> Can alpacas wear things like that?
> Ridgley
>
> --- In _AlpacaTalk@ --- InoAlpacaT_ (mailto:_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ) ,
"Emaly Leak" <llamapyr25@> wrote:
> >
> > Spring is upon us, and I was curious to hear if anyone has used fly
> > predators to control their fly population? If so, how did it work? When
> > did you start & stop? I'm sure part of that is based upon geography and
> > climate- I'm in central Indiana. Thanks, Emaly
> >
> >
> >
> > Emaly Leak
> >
> > Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
> >
> > llamapyr25@
> >
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(http://www.etsy.http//wwhttp://wwhttp://www_)
(_http://www.etsy.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://www_
(http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5635306) )
> >
> > Fairland, IN
> >
> > Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber Items
> >
> > Show, Breeding, & Pet Quality Llamas For Sale
> >
> > Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion Male
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

hi Susan - my alpaca boys get burrs in their topknots from my neighbor's plants - no matter how many i pull out, they find one to stick their head in.
but they don't walk in them so i never see them on their legs.
I love the smell of skin so soft - and i've heard before that it is good for keeping mosquitos off people, i just wondered about the ears being more sensitive. I 'll try it on the alpacas - they don't like anything put on their faces but i can't stand to see the flies on them.

it gets hot here in the valley but the alpacas have lots of shade and wading pools - i also hose them off twice a day when it's really hot

they're going to smell very nice this summer - the avon lady will love me
thanks
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC

----- Original Message -----
From: LunarStruck@aol.com
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Wendy - don't your alpacas get burrs? We take all the fiber off, even
topknots on some of them. I spent a fun-filled morning removing all the
neighbor's lovely burr plants from the outside of the pasture AGAIN. It gets a lot
hotter here than where you are, so I like to remove all the fleece. LOL

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/12/2009 7:45:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
wendy.edwards@shaw.ca writes:

i looked at the website and i don't know if that would work for my alpacas,
i don't have nice smooth pasture and they are out in the brush all spring,
summer and fall - the boots might get caught up on something - i'm planning on
leaving their fibre on from the knees down to give them some protection.

Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
www.dreamweaveralpawww.dr
----- Original Message -----
From: rollinridge
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:06 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Fly boots are like wrap around fly masks for the legs with two velco straps.
Made the horses look like they were wearing knee socks. They worked GREAT!!!
We picked them up at our local tack shop but you can get them online - we
didn't get the expensive ones (they can cost up to $80! We spent like $20)
Here's a like to some that look like them (and they're re'usable - hose them off)

_http://www.smartpakhttp://www.http://www.smhttp://www.smarthttp://w&cm_m
mc=Frocm_mmccm_mcm_mm_
(http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=3535&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shopping%20Feed-_-NA-_-13535)

Ridgley

--- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
"Wendy Edwards" <wendy.edwards@wen> wrote:
>
> hi Ridgley - what are fly boots?
>
> We used DE last year but just sprinkled on the manure piles - it didn't
seem to make much difference - this year i am going to feed it to the alpacas
and see if that helps.
>
> i've tried fly spray, wipes and roll-on. Nothing seemed to last for long.
Does anyone use the alpaca fly-masks i've seen advertised?
>
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> BC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rollinridge
> To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:17 AM
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators
>
>
> Glad you brought that up :-) (one of my future questions). We tried them
for the first time last year with our (2) horses and my husband and I kept
asking each other all summer long whether we noticed any difference. (As we
shovelled the manure). We're in NJ. We have friends in MD that say they're
wonderful which is why we tried them. But I really don't think it helped. Their
website says it can take a couple of years for them to really "kick in" - but I
think I'll stick with my fashionable fly boots.
> Can alpacas wear things like that?
> Ridgley
>
> --- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
"Emaly Leak" <llamapyr25@> wrote:
> >
> > Spring is upon us, and I was curious to hear if anyone has used fly
> > predators to control their fly population? If so, how did it work? When
> > did you start & stop? I'm sure part of that is based upon geography and
> > climate- I'm in central Indiana. Thanks, Emaly
> >
> >
> >
> > Emaly Leak
> >
> > Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
> >
> > llamapyr25@
> >
> > www.autumnhillllama
> >
> > _http://www.etsy.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://www_
(http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5635306)
> >
> > Fairland, IN
> >
> > Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber Items
> >
> > Show, Breeding, & Pet Quality Llamas For Sale
> >
> > Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion Male
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Wendy - don't your alpacas get burrs? We take all the fiber off, even
topknots on some of them. I spent a fun-filled morning removing all the
neighbor's lovely burr plants from the outside of the pasture AGAIN. It gets a lot
hotter here than where you are, so I like to remove all the fleece. LOL

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/12/2009 7:45:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
wendy.edwards@shaw.ca writes:

i looked at the website and i don't know if that would work for my alpacas,
i don't have nice smooth pasture and they are out in the brush all spring,
summer and fall - the boots might get caught up on something - i'm planning on
leaving their fibre on from the knees down to give them some protection.

Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
www.dreamweaveralpawww.dr
----- Original Message -----
From: rollinridge
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:06 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Fly boots are like wrap around fly masks for the legs with two velco straps.
Made the horses look like they were wearing knee socks. They worked GREAT!!!
We picked them up at our local tack shop but you can get them online - we
didn't get the expensive ones (they can cost up to $80! We spent like $20)
Here's a like to some that look like them (and they're re'usable - hose them off)

_http://www.smartpakhttp://www.http://www.smhttp://www.smarthttp://w&cm_m
mc=Frocm_mmccm_mcm_mm_
(http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=3535&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shopping%20Feed-_-NA-_-13535)

Ridgley

--- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
"Wendy Edwards" <wendy.edwards@wen> wrote:
>
> hi Ridgley - what are fly boots?
>
> We used DE last year but just sprinkled on the manure piles - it didn't
seem to make much difference - this year i am going to feed it to the alpacas
and see if that helps.
>
> i've tried fly spray, wipes and roll-on. Nothing seemed to last for long.
Does anyone use the alpaca fly-masks i've seen advertised?
>
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> BC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rollinridge
> To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:17 AM
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators
>
>
> Glad you brought that up :-) (one of my future questions). We tried them
for the first time last year with our (2) horses and my husband and I kept
asking each other all summer long whether we noticed any difference. (As we
shovelled the manure). We're in NJ. We have friends in MD that say they're
wonderful which is why we tried them. But I really don't think it helped. Their
website says it can take a couple of years for them to really "kick in" - but I
think I'll stick with my fashionable fly boots.
> Can alpacas wear things like that?
> Ridgley
>
> --- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
"Emaly Leak" <llamapyr25@> wrote:
> >
> > Spring is upon us, and I was curious to hear if anyone has used fly
> > predators to control their fly population? If so, how did it work? When
> > did you start & stop? I'm sure part of that is based upon geography and
> > climate- I'm in central Indiana. Thanks, Emaly
> >
> >
> >
> > Emaly Leak
> >
> > Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
> >
> > llamapyr25@
> >
> > www.autumnhillllama
> >
> > _http://www.etsy.http://wwhttp://wwhttp://www_
(http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5635306)
> >
> > Fairland, IN
> >
> > Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber Items
> >
> > Show, Breeding, & Pet Quality Llamas For Sale
> >
> > Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion Male
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Wendy,

Avon Skin So Soft Oil and the cream are fly repellents, they work
really, really well on the alpacas, horses and even on dogs' ears. Plus, it smells
really nice and moisturizes your hands when you apply it, too. The flies
eat the black stripes on my donkey's legs to the point of bloodying them and
the Skin So Soft Oil works for at least two days. Plus, it makes the fungal
lumps in my horses' ears disappear.

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/12/2009 7:36:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
wendy.edwards@shaw.ca writes:

why do you put skin so soft in their ears?
Thanks
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
----- Original Message -----
From: _LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com)
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

Another thing that works if you can handle your alpacas easily and don't
have a huge herd, is Avon Skin So Soft Oil. I use it full strength in their
ears and lightly around their eyes and I don't have to re-apply it for a few
days.

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/11/2009 7:44:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
_wendy.edwards@wendy.e_ (mailto:wendy.edwards@shaw.ca) writes:

thanks Susan - i'm going to try them - I can't stand seeing flies crawling
around their eyes
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
----- Original Message -----
From: _LunarStruck@From: _LunarS_LunarStruck@LunarSt_
(mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com) )
To: _AlpacaTalk@To: _AlpacaTalk@_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) )
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

They didn't really react much, its just a pain catching certain alpacas and
putting them on. I left them on almost all fly season with no problems from
any of them. I had to take off some and wash them. Check to adjust the fit
because as their fleece grows or the crias grow the masks get tighter. I
just put them on and let them go right away and not one of them had a
problem
with them. I'm getting extras this year, two of our males tear their masks
up
more quickly than one a season. Our guard llama really loves her mask!

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/11/2009 7:09:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
__wendy.edwards@_wendy._ (mailto:_wendy.edwards@wendy.e) _
(mailto:_wendy.edwards@wendy.e_ (mailto:wendy.edwards@shaw.ca) ) writes:

hi Susan - how did your alpacas react when you first put the fly masks on
them? Did it take them long to get used to them?
Thanks
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
----- Original Message -----
From: _LunarStruck@From: _LunarStruck@<WBFrom: _LunarFrom: _Lu
(mailto:_LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com) ) )
To: _AlpacaTalk@To: _AlpacaTalk@_AlpacaTalk_AlpacaTalk_Alpac
(mailto:_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ) )
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

I use the flymasks on everyone during fly season, even crias, they really do
help. I fly-spray them as needed when they are in their catch-feed-pen.
The masks generally last one fly season, then you have to buy new ones.
Check
them often to make sure the velcro is not stuck to the fleece or they are
irritating or "rubbing" the alpaca. They work very well, especially on the
black alpacas that lose some facial hair during fly season.

I believe the fly predators don't work as well in hot environments. It can
get very hot in summer here and they die off.

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/11/2009 6:44:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
__wendy.edwards@__wendy.edwards@__wendy.edwards@_wendy._
(mailto:_wendy.edwards@wendy.e) ) _
(mailto:__wendy.edwards@_wendy._ (mailto:_wendy.edwards@wendy.e) _
(mailto:_wendy.edwards@wendy.e_ (mailto:wendy.edwards@shaw.ca) ) ) writes:

hi Ridgley - what are fly boots?

We used DE last year but just sprinkled on the manure piles - it didn't seem
to make much difference - this year i am going to feed it to the alpacas and
see if that helps.

i've tried fly spray, wipes and roll-on. Nothing seemed to last for long.
Does anyone use the alpaca fly-masks i've seen advertised?

Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
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Glad you brought that up :-) (one of my future questions). We tried them for
the first time last year with our (2) horses and my husband and I kept
asking each other all summer long whether we noticed any difference. (As we
shovelled the manure). We're in NJ. We have friends in MD that say they're
wonderful which is why we tried them. But I really don't think it helped.
Their
website says it can take a couple of years for them to really "kick in" -
but I
think I'll stick with my fashionable fly boots.
Can alpacas wear things like that?
Ridgley

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

hi June - i didn't know the alpaca cooling system is in it's lower legs - thanks for that info
Do you think leaving the fibre on the lower legs will cause a heat problem? I was thinking the fibre would protect their lower legs from flies and brush but i don't want to make them hotter.
Wendy
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The alpaca has all of its cooling system in its lower legs, why would you want to cover these up with fly protection that as far as i can see is not really beneficial and could be harmful. We have used DE for well over 10 years in our supplement and grain rations for all livestock that are custom mixed just for us, this has put a stop to most fly situations and is carried on all year long, it helps with worms and feed efficiency as well. Very easy and beats chasing them down and stressing them out unnecessarily. Just curious;)

june Neill

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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:13 PM
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I'm speaking from experience from horses here (we're still in the "learning everything we can and planning stage" for alpacas stage). We don't have all smooth pasture either - we can let our horses out to another area with shrubs and all taller grasses. We never had a problem with the boots coming off - sagging a little but not off.
Thinking about the Alpacas - I saw on another website they come in miniature horse size - so maybe that's an option. Or to possibly make them tighter - duct tape? We didn't have them tight like vet wrap tight if that is your thinking - they were kinda just "there". Ours also didn't have any fly repellant on them so there wasn't any smell (that I could detect).

Ridgley
(I also liked that they came in pretty colors - glow in the dark helped to see at night)

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

The alpaca has all of its cooling system in its lower legs, why would you want to cover these up with fly protection that as far as i can see is not really beneficial and could be harmful. We have used DE for well over 10 years in our supplement and grain rations for all livestock that are custom mixed just for us, this has put a stop to most fly situations and is carried on all year long, it helps with worms and feed efficiency as well. Very easy and beats chasing them down and stressing them out unnecessarily. Just curious;)

june Neill

http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/
http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: rollinridge
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Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: fly predators

I'm speaking from experience from horses here (we're still in the "learning everything we can and planning stage" for alpacas stage). We don't have all smooth pasture either - we can let our horses out to another area with shrubs and all taller grasses. We never had a problem with the boots coming off - sagging a little but not off.
Thinking about the Alpacas - I saw on another website they come in miniature horse size - so maybe that's an option. Or to possibly make them tighter - duct tape? We didn't have them tight like vet wrap tight if that is your thinking - they were kinda just "there". Ours also didn't have any fly repellant on them so there wasn't any smell (that I could detect).

Ridgley
(I also liked that they came in pretty colors - glow in the dark helped to see at night)

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> How did you get them to stay on? We tried it last year but the pacas kept figuring out a way to get them off. Also, the alpaca legs are so-o-o skinny, it was hard to get them on tight enough plus they seemed to dislike the smell and/or feel of them around their legs.
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> B4 Alpacas LLC
> 3742 S Locust
> Grand Island Ne 68801
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