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Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Re: [AlpacaTalk] AlpacaMarket joins UAFF family of sites

 

And now I am no longer a member of Alpaca Market. It does not show on my list of Yahoo groups at all, and not because I unsubscribed. 

Thanks for validating my concerns, Jim Patrick et al. Were my concerns valid or not? Please feel free to address these issues and explain what has happened in an open and free community. There is no thought control on AlpacaTalk or censorship. Only one member was ever moderated for aggressive and continuous defamation. Not something as benign as expressing concern over something that could occur... which appears to have occurred. 


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece



AlpacaTalk on Facebook! 




On Mar 14, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Just don't raise concerns over the consolidation of ownership and control of all of these groups, or you will immediately lose posting privileges. 

If it was a mistake, please fix it. If not, feel free to explain why one sentence deserves such draconian measures?


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece



AlpacaTalk on Facebook! 




On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Patricks' Pastures wrote:

 

We are pleased to announce that AlpacaMarket will shortly become party of the UAFF family of sites. It will operate in harmony with the current UTP site.
UAFF is honored to continue on as moderators. We will acknowledge Erin as the founder of the site on every post.
For those of you that don't know, Erin was at the forefront of AOBA as
Vice President when some very important decisions were made. The
positive effects of those decisions continue to benefit alpaca owners to this day.
We thank Erin McCarthy, the founder of AlpacaMarket,for her confidence in UAFF and we trust that we will live up to her high standards.
We also are pleased to announce that Allison Moss-Fritch, a long time alpaca owner, lawyer and former judge (that is a real judge, not an alpaca judge) will be moderating the AlpacaMarket site as she does for UTP. She also co-moderates the main UAFF site with Jan Davis. This will transpire as Erin turns the site over.

UAFF

 

 

Kindest personal regards,

 

Jim Patrick

214-505-0754

Denton, TX

jpatrick@airmail.net

patrickspastures@verizon.net

jim.patrick@patrickspastures.com

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ellie Winslow
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:06 AM
To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] What do I do When the Barn's Too Full?

 




...or how to get those alpacas (and crafts) sold to new homes and new markets!

 

Here are powerful steps for making your alpaca businesses thrive!

 

Proven principles that really work!  (in both hard copy and very affordable e-books). 

     "Marketing Farm Products"
     "Growing Your Rural Business"
     "Economy Proofing Rural Business"

 

The principles of good marketing are well established--tried and true.  The problem is most
farmers have never heard what steps to take.  Even if they have, it's hard to translate 'widget'
marketing to livestock and craft marketing.  You'll be geared up to make it work
immediately for your own farm once you see how attracting customers follows a few
simple rules .
 
I've taught these principle to livestock .groups all over the US.  They work!  They get you
customers, they get you sales! 

 

The small farm is the backbone of what made America great.  People who love rural living are a
very talented and creative group.  You are remarkably entrepreneurial and inventive.  But the
recession has been as hard or harder on us as it has been elsewhere. 

 

It no longer works to simply have a good product .  A few years ago, you could safely expect they would come if you made or produced it.  Now it takes some marketing know-how to reach those potential customers. 

The good news is that it's pretty easy once you know how, and that's what the books and the seminar teach!

100%guaranteed—30 days, any reason—I'll buy it
back! 

 

As a big-time marketing strategy of your own, consider sponsoring a marketing seminar at your farm!  Talk to me about ways to get huge benefits to your farm while helping the industry as a whole!

 

 

 

 

 

Ellie Winslow, San Diego CA (zone 10)

Grower of--and writer about--superfruits and exotic tropical plants

Rural adventurehttp://beyondthesidewalk.com (Marketing Books & Workshops)

Wellness Adventurehttp://mindingthemiddleagedmiddle.com  (health and aging)

  







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Message posts are the opinion of individuals posting and are not necessarily endorsed or approved by Yahoo! or the moderator of this group. The purpose of this discussion group is to ensure that all points of view can be aired. It is the responsibility of all individuals who post to treat others with respect and civility.
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] AlpacaMarket joins UAFF family of sites

 

Just don't raise concerns over the consolidation of ownership and control of all of these groups, or you will immediately lose posting privileges. 


If it was a mistake, please fix it. If not, feel free to explain why one sentence deserves such draconian measures?


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece



AlpacaTalk on Facebook! 




On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Patricks' Pastures wrote:

 

We are pleased to announce that AlpacaMarket will shortly become party of the UAFF family of sites. It will operate in harmony with the current UTP site.
UAFF is honored to continue on as moderators. We will acknowledge Erin as the founder of the site on every post.
For those of you that don't know, Erin was at the forefront of AOBA as
Vice President when some very important decisions were made. The
positive effects of those decisions continue to benefit alpaca owners to this day.
We thank Erin McCarthy, the founder of AlpacaMarket,for her confidence in UAFF and we trust that we will live up to her high standards.
We also are pleased to announce that Allison Moss-Fritch, a long time alpaca owner, lawyer and former judge (that is a real judge, not an alpaca judge) will be moderating the AlpacaMarket site as she does for UTP. She also co-moderates the main UAFF site with Jan Davis. This will transpire as Erin turns the site over.

UAFF

 

 

Kindest personal regards,

 

Jim Patrick

214-505-0754

Denton, TX

jpatrick@airmail.net

patrickspastures@verizon.net

jim.patrick@patrickspastures.com

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ellie Winslow
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:06 AM
To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] What do I do When the Barn's Too Full?

 




...or how to get those alpacas (and crafts) sold to new homes and new markets!

 

Here are powerful steps for making your alpaca businesses thrive!

 

Proven principles that really work!  (in both hard copy and very affordable e-books). 

     "Marketing Farm Products"
     "Growing Your Rural Business"
     "Economy Proofing Rural Business"

 

The principles of good marketing are well established--tried and true.  The problem is most
farmers have never heard what steps to take.  Even if they have, it's hard to translate 'widget'
marketing to livestock and craft marketing.  You'll be geared up to make it work
immediately for your own farm once you see how attracting customers follows a few
simple rules .
 
I've taught these principle to livestock .groups all over the US.  They work!  They get you
customers, they get you sales! 

 

The small farm is the backbone of what made America great.  People who love rural living are a
very talented and creative group.  You are remarkably entrepreneurial and inventive.  But the
recession has been as hard or harder on us as it has been elsewhere. 

 

It no longer works to simply have a good product .  A few years ago, you could safely expect they would come if you made or produced it.  Now it takes some marketing know-how to reach those potential customers. 

The good news is that it's pretty easy once you know how, and that's what the books and the seminar teach!

100%guaranteed—30 days, any reason—I'll buy it
back! 

 

As a big-time marketing strategy of your own, consider sponsoring a marketing seminar at your farm!  Talk to me about ways to get huge benefits to your farm while helping the industry as a whole!

 

 

 

 

 

Ellie Winslow, San Diego CA (zone 10)

Grower of--and writer about--superfruits and exotic tropical plants

Rural adventurehttp://beyondthesidewalk.com (Marketing Books & Workshops)

Wellness Adventurehttp://mindingthemiddleagedmiddle.com  (health and aging)

  






__._,_.___
Recent Activity:
Message posts are the opinion of individuals posting and are not necessarily endorsed or approved by Yahoo! or the moderator of this group. The purpose of this discussion group is to ensure that all points of view can be aired. It is the responsibility of all individuals who post to treat others with respect and civility.
.

__,_._,___