alpacas: 12/15/07

[AlpacaTalk] BEW

hi Janet - thanks very much for the article by Dr. Andy Merriwether - this clarifies the situation for me - it has been a question for us because of some of the gray females we have. We are very new to the alpaca business and had heard bits and pieces of information about BEW, but nothing conclusive until now.

Wendy Edwards
DreamWeaver Alpacas
Port Alberni, BC

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] BEW?

Hi,

It is actually very easy to understand. Any alpaca with white spotting can produce a BEW. Solid alpacas have two solid gene, S/S. Patterned alpaca have one solid gene and one pattern gene, S/P. If you breed two alpacas with the spotting/pattern gene you stand a chance of getting a BEW.

The cria out come would like this:

S/P x S/P

S/S, S/P, S/P, P/P

One solid cria, two patterned cria, and one that received two patterned genes, P/P. When a cria is P/P they are a BEW…

Here is a very good article on the subject by Dr. Andy Merriwether.
http://www.mountainashfarm.com/Library/BEW.html

Janet Morrow

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From: Brendyn <brendynlee@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:02:09 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] BEW?

Hi, I'm really new to alpacas. I'm actually doing my research far
ahead of any purchases the soonest we would be buying is over a year
away. I've been trying to research everything and I'm still a little
confused on the BEW. I understand that crias out comes can't be
predicted but there are things you can do to keep your chances at a
low. So what I have heard is that if you breed an alpaca with white
extremities to anything but pure solid you have a higher chance of
cria becoming a BEW. What I'm wondering is say you have a sire with
pattern in his background but his of solid colour, does he also have a
higher chance of producing a BEW cria if bred to a pattern?

Thanks for any feedback
Brendyn

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: BEW?

Hi Heidi,

I know that a parent can carry back genetics tho....so say that you
have a solid black boy (his mother was a PN) he can pass that gene
on to his cria. Even though he is personally pure black he still
has a 50 50 chance to carry the PN gene. So that is more what I was
wondering. Is the chance of throwing a BEW the same as if he
himself was a pattern? Not really good at explaining myself
sometimes sorry about that.

Brendyn
Tacoma WA

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> Hey Brendyn,
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>
> I might be wrong on this, but I believe if the pattern is not
present on the parent, it can not be passed on.? The way I
understand it is that the white spot pattern is dominant, so if you
have one gene, you have the pattern.? If you have two genes, then
the animal is a blue eyed white.? The only time it is difficult to
determine is if the animal is white already - in that case they may
also have a white spot gene, but it is on top of white, so you can't
see it.
>
>
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> Heidi Christensen
> WingNut Farm Alpacas
> Graham WA
> (253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
> www.wingnut-alpacas.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendyn <brendynlee@...>
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] BEW?
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> Hi, I'm really new to alpacas. I'm actually doing my research far
> ahead of any purchases the soonest we would be buying is over a
year
> away. I've been trying to research everything and I'm still a
little
> confused on the BEW. I understand that crias out comes can't be
> predicted but there are things you can do to keep your chances at
a
> low. So what I have heard is that if you breed an alpaca with
white
> extremities to anything but pure solid you have a higher chance of
> cria becoming a BEW. What I'm wondering is say you have a sire
with
> pattern in his background but his of solid colour, does he also
have a
> higher chance of producing a BEW cria if bred to a pattern?
>
> Thanks for any feedback
> Brendyn
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] BEW?

Hey Brendyn,

I might be wrong on this, but I believe if the pattern is not present on the parent, it can not be passed on.? The way I understand it is that the white spot pattern is dominant, so if you have one gene, you have the pattern.? If you have two genes, then the animal is a blue eyed white.? The only time it is difficult to determine is if the animal is white already - in that case they may also have a white spot gene, but it is on top of white, so you can't see it.

Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm Alpacas
Graham WA
(253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
www.wingnut-alpacas.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Brendyn <brendynlee@yahoo.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 5:02 pm
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] BEW?

Hi, I'm really new to alpacas. I'm actually doing my research far
ahead of any purchases the soonest we would be buying is over a year
away. I've been trying to research everything and I'm still a little
confused on the BEW. I understand that crias out comes can't be
predicted but there are things you can do to keep your chances at a
low. So what I have heard is that if you breed an alpaca with white
extremities to anything but pure solid you have a higher chance of
cria becoming a BEW. What I'm wondering is say you have a sire with
pattern in his background but his of solid colour, does he also have a
higher chance of producing a BEW cria if bred to a pattern?

Thanks for any feedback
Brendyn

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[AlpacaTalk] BEW?

Hi, I'm really new to alpacas. I'm actually doing my research far
ahead of any purchases the soonest we would be buying is over a year
away. I've been trying to research everything and I'm still a little
confused on the BEW. I understand that crias out comes can't be
predicted but there are things you can do to keep your chances at a
low. So what I have heard is that if you breed an alpaca with white
extremities to anything but pure solid you have a higher chance of
cria becoming a BEW. What I'm wondering is say you have a sire with
pattern in his background but his of solid colour, does he also have a
higher chance of producing a BEW cria if bred to a pattern?

Thanks for any feedback
Brendyn

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[AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Blanket Project update

Hi everyone,
The donations of fiber for the Alpaca Blanket Project has been
continually coming in to our farm. Thank you everyone!!! It has been
extremely heartwarming. I will try to update the supporters section
of the Blanket Project on our website this weekend. About 10% of the
total fiber needed for the first run has been received with another
55% pledged. Carol and I will be attending the fiber class in Canada
at the end of February through the beginning of March of 2008 as part
of or end of the effort needed for this project. We figure we will
each be sorting/grading about 450-500 blankets for the first run. Wow!
Lots of work, but it is as promised.
The ability to bring this venue to the American alpaca farmer for the
use of our fleece is thanks enough for us for our time and expense.
We really appreciate your willingness to donate your fiber for the
first run or two prior to the time (hopefully within 1 1/2 years) when
we will be able to offer both an American-made product from American
alpaca fleece, but also be able to pay a reasonable amount for our
hard-earned fleece. (Oh yes-we will be able to offer the product at
cost plus 3% to those donating to the first run-there should be aroung
600-650 blankets available for purchase from the first run).
I have worked almost 4 years bringing this opportunity to the alpaca
community and it is incredible to me how many supportive emails, phone
calls and letters we receive. Thank you all. Look for an ad in the
next Alpaca magazine that refers to the blanket project (thanks to one
of the supporters of this project).

We still need more prime (preferably clean) blankets to bring the
first run to reality. You can send them to us at:
Peter & Carol Lundberg
Elderberry Creek Alpacas
10868 Siegmund Rd SE
Stayton, OR 97383

503-769-9466

Also, it looks like the sale of our (Elderberry Creek Alpacas) alpaca
product business may happen soon. We recently placed our alpaca
product business (the largest alpaca product store in the Pacific
Northwest) up for sale or trade. The business valuation came in at
$60-80,000. Net profit last year was over $20k. Inventory at cost is
currently around $21k. If sold by end of year, we will accept $32k
cash. The reason we will take so little is due to my poor health and
also because of the immense amount of time that we need to spend on
the Blanket Project but can not until we sell out alpaca product
business. We are so committed to the Blanket Project that we will
take much less than current value for the product business that we
have invested years of our lives making into a sound and profitable
venture. However, it is only for a quick sale that we will give the
alpaca product away for such a low price. And, this is only because
we need to immediately spend time on the Blanket Project that we are
willing to take this reduced amount for the business.

Happy Holidays everyone!! We welcome your comments. We are here to help!

Peter
Elderberry Creek Alpacas

ElderberryCreekAlpacas@yahoo.com

ElderberryCreekAlpacas.com

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