Ok, I deleted my previous reply because of a stupid typo/omission on my
part. But what my post said was basically:
Libby, let's not do that. You really don't have to right out lie. You
can see very well I have never made up stories. I never admitted to
fabricating anything. Are the things I said about specific people not
true? I have more info, I can go on. But right now I have to go out
and do chores. Linking small farms to disaster... what? You've lost me
there. Yes, this AOBA/ALC things stinks to high heaven, and I can't
wait to see how things turn out.
I won't follow you down the road you're on of name calling. I know
what I know, and while it is true that I can't see the future, I can
see what might very well happen, and the AOBA membership deserves more
control! End of story!
It's interesting, the more I post, the more people tell me. Different
people, not one party as you want to think. Someone told me last year
about Mike Safley's antics and why he is barred from holding office on
the AOBA board. Stachowski's act was all over AlpacaSite. I was and
still am shocked at the lengths he went to to try to get that fraud
completed. Step after step after step. Yet he's honest enough to serve
on the AOBA BOD and judge our alpacas? Good lord. Who owns the building
that AOBA leases for it's headquarters? Some might say that is a
conflict of interest.
Best regards,
Heather
On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:10 AM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:
>
>
> Heather,
>
> You admitted to saying things and making up stories when you had no
> proof.
> You admitted it for all to see. Please re-read your own posts. You
> link
> small farms to disaster (to try to scare people?) simply because AOBA
> is
> trying to reduce AOBA's tax liability. You have no proof of anything
> wrong
> yet you talk of stink and disaster and corruption and then you try to
> scare
> small farms for no good reason.
>
> I don't think you have respect for anyone...certainly not me based on
> your
> posts.
>
> Not everyone is corrupt. That is your negative take on people and
> things.
> I would agree that none of us are perfect, certainly not me.
>
> Congratulations....out of thousands of alpaca breeders, you've found
> a few
> that aren't honest. So what?
>
> Think about it and please leave at least some volunteers in peace.
>
> I am now going to take my own advice.
>
> Libby
> Libby Forstner
> Magical Farms
>
> Heather Zeleny
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> 01/08/2008 11:46 WHOSE? Shenanigans
> AM
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> Please respond to
> AlpacaTalk@yahoog
> roups.com
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>
>
> You know Libby,
> Despite things I had heard in hushed voices and yes, rumor, I always
> had respect for you. I supported you and the other farms affected by
> the LOL disaster. I have since read that the valuation of many animals
> was, well, inaccurate. However, I still boycott all LOL products and
> always will, and encourage others whether they are alpaca breeders or
> not, to do the same.
>
> I have not made up any accusations about anyone. I said that this new
> development with AOBA and its subsidiary stinks and I do think it
> spells disaster for the industry, or at least small farms' ability to
> participate in AOBA programs. I truly and desperately hope this does
> not happen. And I think it is incumbent on all AOBA members to demand
> more accountability from the BOD and more control of the organization.
>
> It has been said and I have never seen an instance where it is not
> true
> that "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Think of all the news
> stories we've heard in business. No one thought Ken Lay would do the
> things he and his cronies did. No one thought John and Timothy Rigas
> would do the things they did. No one thought Mike Safley would divert
> leads for his own benefit while he was on the AOBA BOD, but he did. No
> one thought Anthony Stachowski wold attept to fraudulently register a
> huarizo as a suri llama but he did. Shall I go on?
>
> Heather
>
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