Re: [AlpacaTalk] Chiropractic adjustments for alpacas

 

Rolfing is a technique of what they call "Structural Integration." It's a form of deep tissue massage and realignment that is quite intense and can be painful during the treatment, but really has amazing results.

It can be googled.

Heather

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

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On Apr 10, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Tina Travis wrote:

              OK I will bite---What is a Ralfer?
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

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Warrenton,MO.63383

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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 8:58:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Chiropractic adjustments for alpacas

 

Hi Janice! Sorry to take so long to reply. 

Yes, we have used chiropractic with our alpacas, often with great results. In fact, I can think of one newborn cria several years a go who couldn't hold her head up to nurse at all. We had the chiro come out and she's been great ever since! And that's just one story. We call our chiropractor out to see if she can straighten out knocked knees and cowhocks in addition to more serious problems. Sometimes those cowhocks and knocked knees are conformational problems and are the alpaca's natural alignment, but sometimes things are misaligned or there are pinched nerves, or things that are not conformational, that can be aligned with minor adjustments.  

We have also used a Rolfer in more serious cases. They are more expensive, but they can often the major alignment issues resolved in a shorter amount of time/fewer treatments.

While we have never used it on the farm, I also think acupuncture/ pressure works wonders. Horse people use it all the time, no reason alpacas shouldn't benefit as well!

Heather

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

http://www.whitelot usalpacas. com

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On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:43 AM, jelizabethfarms1@ bellsouth. net wrote:

Heather, do I recall that you talked about having this done long ago?
I had a dog years ago that got to where she couldn't go up and down the 
stairs. I took her to my chiro and after one adjustment she was good 
as new; never had any more problems going up and down the stairs.
I would think with those long necks it would be easy for an alpaca to 
get out of whack?
Do you think that could be the cause of one having trouble with rear 
legs.....uncoordina ted and weak?
This young alpaca (not one of mine) has not been able to coordinate her 
legs or stand or walk for a couple of weeks. She is about 1 1/2 yo and 
was fine until one day she started showing some signs of uncoordination 
in the rear and trouble walking; then she got much worse. My first 
thought was m-worm, but that has been ruled out. She has gotten much 
better and is now standing and walking, but is still having trouble with 
the rear hips/legs being uncoordinated and weak and not able to always 
rise and cush properly, and the rear legs get weak quickly, tho they are 
much better than they were 2 wks ago.
I am thinking perhaps nerve impingement by a vertebra.
Any thoughts or comments or suggestions?
Thanks! Janice

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Chiropractic adjustments for alpacas

 

              OK I will bite---What is a Ralfer?
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO.63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas.com

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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 8:58:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Chiropractic adjustments for alpacas

 

Hi Janice! Sorry to take so long to reply. 

Yes, we have used chiropractic with our alpacas, often with great results. In fact, I can think of one newborn cria several years a go who couldn't hold her head up to nurse at all. We had the chiro come out and she's been great ever since! And that's just one story. We call our chiropractor out to see if she can straighten out knocked knees and cowhocks in addition to more serious problems. Sometimes those cowhocks and knocked knees are conformational problems and are the alpaca's natural alignment, but sometimes things are misaligned or there are pinched nerves, or things that are not conformational, that can be aligned with minor adjustments.  

We have also used a Rolfer in more serious cases. They are more expensive, but they can often the major alignment issues resolved in a shorter amount of time/fewer treatments.

While we have never used it on the farm, I also think acupuncture/ pressure works wonders. Horse people use it all the time, no reason alpacas shouldn't benefit as well!

Heather

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

http://www.whitelot usalpacas. com

http://whitelotus. openherd. com

On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:43 AM, jelizabethfarms1@ bellsouth. net wrote:

Heather, do I recall that you talked about having this done long ago?
I had a dog years ago that got to where she couldn't go up and down the 
stairs. I took her to my chiro and after one adjustment she was good 
as new; never had any more problems going up and down the stairs.
I would think with those long necks it would be easy for an alpaca to 
get out of whack?
Do you think that could be the cause of one having trouble with rear 
legs.....uncoordina ted and weak?
This young alpaca (not one of mine) has not been able to coordinate her 
legs or stand or walk for a couple of weeks. She is about 1 1/2 yo and 
was fine until one day she started showing some signs of uncoordination 
in the rear and trouble walking; then she got much worse. My first 
thought was m-worm, but that has been ruled out. She has gotten much 
better and is now standing and walking, but is still having trouble with 
the rear hips/legs being uncoordinated and weak and not able to always 
rise and cush properly, and the rear legs get weak quickly, tho they are 
much better than they were 2 wks ago.
I am thinking perhaps nerve impingement by a vertebra.
Any thoughts or comments or suggestions?
Thanks! Janice

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Chiropractic adjustments for alpacas

 

Hi Janice! Sorry to take so long to reply. 

Yes, we have used chiropractic with our alpacas, often with great results. In fact, I can think of one newborn cria several years a go who couldn't hold her head up to nurse at all. We had the chiro come out and she's been great ever since! And that's just one story. We call our chiropractor out to see if she can straighten out knocked knees and cowhocks in addition to more serious problems. Sometimes those cowhocks and knocked knees are conformational problems and are the alpaca's natural alignment, but sometimes things are misaligned or there are pinched nerves, or things that are not conformational, that can be aligned with minor adjustments.  

We have also used a Rolfer in more serious cases. They are more expensive, but they can often the major alignment issues resolved in a shorter amount of time/fewer treatments.

While we have never used it on the farm, I also think acupuncture/pressure works wonders. Horse people use it all the time, no reason alpacas shouldn't benefit as well!

Heather

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com

http://whitelotus.openherd.com

On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:43 AM, jelizabethfarms1@bellsouth.net wrote:

Heather, do I recall that you talked about having this done long ago?
I had a dog years ago that got to where she couldn't go up and down the 
stairs. I took her to my chiro and after one adjustment she was good 
as new; never had any more problems going up and down the stairs.
I would think with those long necks it would be easy for an alpaca to 
get out of whack?
Do you think that could be the cause of one having trouble with rear 
legs.....uncoordinated and weak?
This young alpaca (not one of mine) has not been able to coordinate her 
legs or stand or walk for a couple of weeks. She is about 1 1/2 yo and 
was fine until one day she started showing some signs of uncoordination 
in the rear and trouble walking; then she got much worse. My first 
thought was m-worm, but that has been ruled out. She has gotten much 
better and is now standing and walking, but is still having trouble with 
the rear hips/legs being uncoordinated and weak and not able to always 
rise and cush properly, and the rear legs get weak quickly, tho they are 
much better than they were 2 wks ago.
I am thinking perhaps nerve impingement by a vertebra.
Any thoughts or comments or suggestions?
Thanks! Janice

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Hijacked question about Alpaca Treats

 

Hi CJ,

 

We feed pellets in small quantities, most fruits, raisins, dried cherries, dried apricot bits, carrots, cucumber slices, nuts---not salted, (they seem to like pecans and almonds best), apples, pears, peaches, (all cut bite size) hard winter squash bits, pumpkin bits, melon bits ---with rind (if washed) ----Actually they like most of the things that they could find if they were out in the wild.  The fruits and nuts falling from the trees, the best of the available browse, and some of them like things humans have accidentally dropped while out in the fields---like root beer or peppermint  candies! 

 

We have one girl here who will reach through the fences to eat along the walkways where there are herbs----especially lavenders and mints.

 

Each animal has their own list.  One of our girls absolutely relishes orange peels especially from the “CaraCara” oranges which are pink inside.

 

So they have their own favorites, just like the two leggers.

 

Allison

 

Allison E. Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

350 Cloquallum Rd.

Elma, WA 98541

 

360 861-8584

 

 

 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Humming Along Alpacas
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 7:25 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Hijacked question about Alpaca Treats

 

 

C'mon you guys -- one simple question was asked -- what treats do you feed your alpacas?  If you have something other to say than about the current topic could you do it privately?  All this bickering is getting really old.

I'm just trying to see what kinds of different foods alpacas like.  So far, carrots, figs, weeds, pears and apples......Anything else out there?  Do the carrots need to be chopped or shaved? 

 

Warm regards,
CJ Parnell
Humming Along Alpacas
Aquasco, MD

 

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Hijacked question about Alpaca Treats

 

 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Humming Along Alpacas
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 7:25 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Hijacked question about Alpaca Treats

 

 

C'mon you guys -- one simple question was asked -- what treats do you feed your alpacas?  If you have something other to say than about the current topic could you do it privately?  All this bickering is getting really old.

I'm just trying to see what kinds of different foods alpacas like.  So far, carrots, figs, weeds, pears and apples......Anything else out there?  Do the carrots need to be chopped or shaved? 

 

Warm regards,
CJ Parnell
Humming Along Alpacas
Aquasco, MD

 

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[AlpacaTalk] Chiropractic adjustments for alpacas

 

Heather, do I recall that you talked about having this done long ago?
I had a dog years ago that got to where she couldn't go up and down the
stairs. I took her to my chiro and after one adjustment she was good
as new; never had any more problems going up and down the stairs.
I would think with those long necks it would be easy for an alpaca to
get out of whack?
Do you think that could be the cause of one having trouble with rear
legs.....uncoordinated and weak?
This young alpaca (not one of mine) has not been able to coordinate her
legs or stand or walk for a couple of weeks. She is about 1 1/2 yo and
was fine until one day she started showing some signs of uncoordination
in the rear and trouble walking; then she got much worse. My first
thought was m-worm, but that has been ruled out. She has gotten much
better and is now standing and walking, but is still having trouble with
the rear hips/legs being uncoordinated and weak and not able to always
rise and cush properly, and the rear legs get weak quickly, tho they are
much better than they were 2 wks ago.
I am thinking perhaps nerve impingement by a vertebra.
Any thoughts or comments or suggestions?
Thanks! Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] Silly alpacas

 

<<< Our grass is coming in full and green and lush and the alpacas
are doing the happy dance with all four feet off the ground. Our youngest,
Lucille, is full of piss and vinegar on a daily basis and is going to get
herself in trouble if she doesn't quit running up behind the old gals and
pronking off of them! Anyone else have silly alpacas!>>>

Oh yes, yesterday was such a fun and beautiful day. Happy dance indeed
- for us all. I let the alpacas and the horses out to graze the lush
grass/weeds, while I was getting my work done in the garden and all
around. I haven't been letting them for a while due to garden/fence
issues, but I finally got the hot wire across the new orchard/bee yard
and so that got to come out.....finally! Oh the joy, oh the running and
pronking and general silliness. 2 of the girls - mom and yearling,
were running so crazy they overshot and ended up in the horse pasture
where they were just running like crazy - a new space and lots of open
space to run, unlike their own space with a lot of trees. The poor
male was just going nuts running the fence line. He wanted IN with them
tho he couldn't wait to get OUT of his own pasture fast enough; I've
never seen that boy run so fast hehe. I am watching closely since the
yearling is his daughter, and her mom I have to assume is preg since
they spent an unexpected night together 2 mos back - those crazy
teenagers. As long as they are all out grazing the yard he seems to
have no interest in them, but once he saw them racing around inside the
horse area he just couldn't stand it. Ran the fence line crying like
crazy. I figured all the activity must be getting his hormones going
and so best they do that vigorous playing inside a fenced area where he
can't get at them so I closed the gate. It was such a joyful sight to
behold - to see all my critters really kicking up their heels and having
a good time after such a long bitter cold hard winter. Once they had
run off their excitement I let them back out to graze the beautiful
buffet and he calmed down and went back to grazing himself. No mating
attempts. Ahhh, the clover, the grass, the honeysuckle, the sheer
pleasure of the warm sunshine in the cool air. Just a perfect day all
around.

Warmly, Janice in NW GA

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