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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

Back. Forgot about the girl!

On Jun 7, 2013 8:09 PM, <Dragonflyalpacas@aol.com> wrote:
 

Laura,

She has a female in with all the males hence all the fighting.

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC
Marydel, MD
410 482 7794
www.dragonflyalpacas@aol.com
www.dragonflyalpacas.com

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From: Laura Roberts <lauraroberts518@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 19:53:23 -0400
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

And my first sentence said they are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, SOMETIMES.
In any case, one week isn't long enough for them to jockey rank and standing.
I have two males that are dominant and they have peaks and valleys of fighting. When adding a new male to the herd, they are beastly, but it settles down and the newcomers gradually gain a higher standing, with time.  Of course, the gelded males don't progress up the ladder too high. The younger males climb up slowly.
If your dominant male doesn't settle down, consider gelding him.
Laura

On Jun 7, 2013 9:06 AM, "Tina Travis" <traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I have had some that never work it out......

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
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From: Laura Roberts
Sent: 6/7/2013 6:27 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
Laura

On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com> wrote:
 

As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.

We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.

Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!

Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.

There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)

Thank you,
Maria

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

Laura,

She has a female in with all the males hence all the fighting.

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC
Marydel, MD
410 482 7794
www.dragonflyalpacas@aol.com
www.dragonflyalpacas.com

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Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

And my first sentence said they are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, SOMETIMES.
In any case, one week isn't long enough for them to jockey rank and standing.
I have two males that are dominant and they have peaks and valleys of fighting. When adding a new male to the herd, they are beastly, but it settles down and the newcomers gradually gain a higher standing, with time.  Of course, the gelded males don't progress up the ladder too high. The younger males climb up slowly.
If your dominant male doesn't settle down, consider gelding him.
Laura

On Jun 7, 2013 9:06 AM, "Tina Travis" <traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I have had some that never work it out......

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
From: Laura Roberts
Sent: 6/7/2013 6:27 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
Laura

On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com> wrote:
 

As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.

We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.

Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!

Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.

There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)

Thank you,
Maria

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posted by Chaddo at 5:09 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

And my first sentence said they are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, SOMETIMES.
In any case, one week isn't long enough for them to jockey rank and standing.
I have two males that are dominant and they have peaks and valleys of fighting. When adding a new male to the herd, they are beastly, but it settles down and the newcomers gradually gain a higher standing, with time.  Of course, the gelded males don't progress up the ladder too high. The younger males climb up slowly.
If your dominant male doesn't settle down, consider gelding him.
Laura

On Jun 7, 2013 9:06 AM, "Tina Travis" <traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I have had some that never work it out......

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
From: Laura Roberts
Sent: 6/7/2013 6:27 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please

 

A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
Laura

On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com> wrote:
 

As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.

We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.

Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!

Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.

There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)

Thank you,
Maria

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posted by Chaddo at 4:53 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

I would really be concerned the males will rape her threw that hole causing HUGE problems with that hole being ripped,with bladder on up the urinary track issues.I am not a vet but I can see trouble with this arrangement raining down.
                                      tina
Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
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traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
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From: Dragonflyalpacas@aol.com
Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

Opps, sorry, spell check issues, I meant " gelded" not "gilded".

Dede Crout

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From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:39:21 -0000
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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 


Our female doesn't have "female" parts. She was born "different". There is no vagina hole to breed with, just a small hole made by the vet to urinate. (It gets more confusing huh) LOL

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Females can get serious damage and/or infections from over breeding.Gelding can go threw the motion of breeding they just can't get the female pregnant......
> Tina Travis
> ElkHorn Alpacas
> 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> Warrenton,MO.63383
> 636-456-4838
> 636-459-8930
> FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> traviselkhornalpacas@...
> Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens eggs.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@...>
> Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 9:53 AM
> To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please
>
>
> sigh..............
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@> wrote:
> >
> > I have had some that never work it out......
> >
> > Tina Travis
> > ElkHorn Alpacas
> > 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> > Warrenton,MO.63383
> > 636-456-4838
> > 636-459-8930
> > FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> > traviselkhornalpacas@
> > Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> > Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens eggs.....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Laura Roberts" <lauraroberts518@>
> > Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 6:27 AM
> > To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please
> >
> >
> > A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
> > Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
> > Laura
> > On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.
> >
> > We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.
> >
> > Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!
> >
> > Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.
> >
> > There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Maria
> >
>

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posted by Chaddo at 12:55 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

Opps, sorry, spell check issues, I meant " gelded" not "gilded".

Dede Crout

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From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com>
Sender: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 17:39:21 -0000
To: <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 


Our female doesn't have "female" parts. She was born "different". There is no vagina hole to breed with, just a small hole made by the vet to urinate. (It gets more confusing huh) LOL

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Females can get serious damage and/or infections from over breeding.Gelding can go threw the motion of breeding they just can't get the female pregnant......
> Tina Travis
> ElkHorn Alpacas
> 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> Warrenton,MO.63383
> 636-456-4838
> 636-459-8930
> FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> traviselkhornalpacas@...
> Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens eggs.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@...>
> Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 9:53 AM
> To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please
>
>
> sigh..............
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@> wrote:
> >
> > I have had some that never work it out......
> >
> > Tina Travis
> > ElkHorn Alpacas
> > 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> > Warrenton,MO.63383
> > 636-456-4838
> > 636-459-8930
> > FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> > traviselkhornalpacas@
> > Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> > Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens eggs.....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Laura Roberts" <lauraroberts518@>
> > Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 6:27 AM
> > To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please
> >
> >
> > A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
> > Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
> > Laura
> > On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.
> >
> > We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.
> >
> > Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!
> >
> > Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.
> >
> > There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Maria
> >
>

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posted by Chaddo at 11:08 AM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

Maria,

It doesn't matter to the males... They smell "female", they react the way nature intended. They will try to breed her.

Dede Crout
Dragonfly Alpacas LLC Marydel, MD
410 482 7794
www.dragonflyalpacas@aol.com
www.dragonflyalpacas.com

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From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com>
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ReplyTo: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 


Our female doesn't have "female" parts. She was born "different". There is no vagina hole to breed with, just a small hole made by the vet to urinate. (It gets more confusing huh) LOL

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Females can get serious damage and/or infections from over breeding.Gelding can go threw the motion of breeding they just can't get the female pregnant......
> Tina Travis
> ElkHorn Alpacas
> 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> Warrenton,MO.63383
> 636-456-4838
> 636-459-8930
> FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> traviselkhornalpacas@...
> Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens eggs.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@...>
> Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 9:53 AM
> To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please
>
>
> sigh..............
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@> wrote:
> >
> > I have had some that never work it out......
> >
> > Tina Travis
> > ElkHorn Alpacas
> > 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> > Warrenton,MO.63383
> > 636-456-4838
> > 636-459-8930
> > FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> > traviselkhornalpacas@
> > Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> > Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens eggs.....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Laura Roberts" <lauraroberts518@>
> > Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 6:27 AM
> > To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please
> >
> >
> > A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
> > Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
> > Laura
> > On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.
> >
> > We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.
> >
> > Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!
> >
> > Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.
> >
> > There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Maria
> >
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posted by Chaddo at 11:05 AM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

Maria,

The problem is very clear to me. The female.

Males by and large get a long fine, gelding, intact males, all will co- exist with the usual banter and domination establishment. Now, once you bring in a female, there's where trouble begins. It doesn't matter whether the males are gilded or cannot physically breed. Your sweet Johnny is protecting what is "his" and will do everything to keep those males as far from her as possible. The female needs to have her own female buddy and placed in a pen where the males cannot be near her, otherwise the fighting will continue and trust me, it can get bloody.

Deed Crout
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From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 01:50:40 -0000
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Our 3 new boys are gelded. Our Johnny is not due to his not being able to breed. (mount anyone) No longer physically capable.

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Jody Ehler <Jody_Ehler@...> wrote:
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> Glad to hear they are doing well otherwise. :)
> Jody
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> We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.
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> Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.
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posted by Chaddo at 10:59 AM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 


Our female doesn't have "female" parts. She was born "different". There is no vagina hole to breed with, just a small hole made by the vet to urinate. (It gets more confusing huh) LOL

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@...> wrote:
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> Females can get serious damage and/or infections from over breeding.Gelding can go threw the motion of breeding they just can't get the female pregnant......
> Tina Travis
> ElkHorn Alpacas
> 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> Warrenton,MO.63383
> 636-456-4838
> 636-459-8930
> FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> traviselkhornalpacas@...
> Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@...>
> Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 9:53 AM
> To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please
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> sigh..............
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> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@> wrote:
> >
> > I have had some that never work it out......
> >
> > Tina Travis
> > ElkHorn Alpacas
> > 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> > Warrenton,MO.63383
> > 636-456-4838
> > 636-459-8930
> > FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> > traviselkhornalpacas@
> > Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> > Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Laura Roberts" <lauraroberts518@>
> > Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 6:27 AM
> > To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please
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> >
> > A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
> > Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
> > Laura
> > On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.
> >
> > We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.
> >
> > Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!
> >
> > Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.
> >
> > There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Maria
> >
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posted by Chaddo at 10:39 AM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

Females can get serious damage and/or infections from over breeding.Gelding can go threw the motion of breeding they just can't get the female pregnant......
Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
From: maria b
Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 9:53 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Need advice please

 

sigh..............

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Tina Travis <traviselkhornalpacas@...> wrote:
>
> I have had some that never work it out......
>
> Tina Travis
> ElkHorn Alpacas
> 31655 ElkHorn Glen
> Warrenton,MO.63383
> 636-456-4838
> 636-459-8930
> FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
> traviselkhornalpacas@...
> Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
> Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Laura Roberts" <lauraroberts518@...>
> Sent: ‎6/‎7/‎2013 6:27 AM
> To: "AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com" <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Need advice please
>
>
> A week is not long enough. They are establishing pecking order and it changes with time, sometimes.
> Try not to treat them like children. They will work it out and mine stand in the rain by choice so don't worry about that. Make sure more than one source for water and food so everyone has the opp to eat.
> Laura
> On Jun 6, 2013 9:07 PM, "maria b" <burnsfamilycentral@...> wrote:
>
>
> As some of you may remember, I adopted 2 alpacas during the winter. (our first ones) "Johnny had menegeal worm a few years back so he walks crooked, somewhat disabled. He knows he is like that so he is a bit more timid. His daughter "Anabelle" has been a feisty curious lil girl from the start.
>
> We adopted 3 more alpacas from Endless Farm and they are simply precious.Very social boys, I just love them! Before adopting them I spoke with Endless Farms and explained in detail about our current alpacas and how we needed to have non aggressive alpacas to adopt. The new boys have been home now over a week. They are sweet and very social BUT our Johnny has been a bit bossy with them. (shocker)He will not let them near the barn or anywhere near his daughter Annabelle. We have given it some time and tried separating the overhang of the barn so that they can get on one side, away from Annabelle and Johnny and get the use of the fan and shade.
>
> Johnny likes to hang around them daily and relax with them, leaving is daughter Annabelle alone. (not sure if she really feels lonely or not) My main concern is that my sweet gentle JOhnny is being a bit of a bully it seems. The spitting has stopped and the yelling at the 3 boys but he still refuses to let them under the overhang. They still aren't allowed under it!
>
> Today we had a lot of rain and the boys are all wet. (now I'm not happy) This needs to stop. What can I do? I was thinking of corralling Johnny in the 10x10 area under the overhang so to allow the boys time to roam free under and around there and Johnny can see they are fine with his daughter. Will this work? What should I do? I want them to live together happily.
>
> There is no fighting or any naughty,mean behavior . Its just Johnny being bossy. (and rude)
>
> Thank you,
> Maria
>

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posted by Chaddo at 10:23 AM 0 comments