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Tuesday, January 20, 2009

[AlpacaTalk] Re: shearing/toothe trimming

Hi, I don't feel comfortable about trying to explain how to trim teeth,
there are alot of variables.There have been discussions on other alpaca
yahoo groups just recently on this subject. Again maybe do a search on
trimming alpaca teeth and see what comes up, I use a dremmel with
different attachments for different jobs. Alpacas love cool nights and
warm sunny spring days it is their favorite weather, just like in South
America! Maybe try to get your guy to shear before the wheat season.
Mary Jane
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, houckj@... wrote:
>
> <<<<. Yes mid-June in GA is very late. Mid-June in Ohio is very late.
> > You must either find another shearer or learn yourself, if in a
> > bind you
> > can always hand shear, you can contact me at fox.maryjane@...
> > and
> > we can talk more about that, the equipment alone is going to run
you
> > upwards of $500. >>>>
>
>
> Thanks MaryJane, I was in the midst of writing you for advice on hand
> shearing and learning to shear my own to save that expensive bill.
But
> then I realized that shearing is also when they get their feet trimmed
> and get a good looking over. I don't have a chute (something I have
> been wanting to have built for the longest time), this guy brings a
huge
> thick rubber pad and we lay them down to shear so I can examine under
> armspits and other places I never get to see for any
> ticks/parasites/skin issues, etc.
>
> The next subject I was going to tackle is tooth trimming. Definitely
> needs to be done....not just fighting teeth, but what in the world do
> you do about those loooong bottom teeth. If I can get instruction in
> how it is done, I think this guy will be willing to help me do it. I
> asked him last year if he knew how and he said he had never trimmed
> teeth before. But I think he will attempt if I can tell him how and
> what to use.
>
> So for now I guess I will continue to have to depend on him to do my
> shearing, but definitely something I would like to learn to do
> myself......after I have a chute.
>
> Thanks! Janice.....sufficiently chastized and scared to go separate
my
> little stud muffin. My gelding was done young and never bred so he is
> fine. And BTW, found a home for that aggressive rooster
yesterday....he
> is gone. I saw him going after the stud and I realized horrified that
> he could truly hurt Merry, as I went running to chase him off my boy.
> Someone happened to be here when it happened and heard me say, for the
> hundredth time "that rooster has got to go". He had a friend wanting
a
> rooster for his 4 hens, so the big boy got loaded up and gone last
night
> :-).
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Hi Susan,

Alot of my natural products such as the DE,kelp,sulpher etc i get at Bio-Ag. Here's the link for a dealer that's closest to you www.bio-ag.com
I've tried to cut my post, but it wouldn't let me;( off to check my settings!
june Neill

http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/
http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: LunarStruck@aol.com
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Thanks, June, I'll try it! Where do you get the sulphur and is it a
particular type?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

"I've had 18 straight whiskeys; I think that's the record." -- last words of
Poet Dylan Thomas

In a message dated 1/20/2009 12:45:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
juneneill.pei@pei.sympatico.ca writes:

Safe for everybody, just adjust to weight for a cat you'd use about a 1/16
tsp DE to a med sized pinch of sulpher, and yes it is safe for everyone. Put
in a syringe with a little warm water to make sure the cats get their dose.
Sulpher is actually a part of the fleece and fleece production, anything in
moderation is great, but natural does take some time or repeat doses as opposed
to those toxic chemicals in a one bang deal. I have used DE for over 10+
years on everything on our farm including the rabbits, put daily in feed will
help utilize full feed potential as well as leave the rumen or gut at about 7ph
which any kind of worm cannot live in;D Great stuff, and it is also safe to
apply to the animals as well, yes there is dust but keep away from face and
mouth.

june Neill

_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihe_ (http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/)
_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihehttp_ (http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/)

----- Original Message -----
From: _LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com)
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Thanks, June! Is yellow sulphur safe for alpacas and cats too?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 1/20/2009 8:20:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
_juneneill.pei@juneneill.pei@ju_ (mailto:juneneill.pei@pei.sympatico.ca)
writes:

DE works on even the hardiest species of worms if you use yellow sulpher
with it. 1 tsp DE to 1/8 tsp sulpher for a 100lb animal.

june Neill

__http://iherdalpacashttp://iher_ (http://iherdalpacashttp//ihe_)
(_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihe_ (http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/) )
__http://iherdalpacashttp://iherdalp_ (http://iherdalpacashttp//ihehttp_)
(_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihehttp_ (http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/) )

----- Original Message -----
From: driwind
To: _AlpacaTalk@To: _AlpacaTalk@<WBR>_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) )
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In _AlpacaTalk@--- In _AlpacaTalk@<WBR>yahoo_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ) ,
LunarStruck@LunarS
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Thanks, June, I'll try it! Where do you get the sulphur and is it a
particular type?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

"I've had 18 straight whiskeys; I think that's the record." -- last words of
Poet Dylan Thomas


In a message dated 1/20/2009 12:45:02 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
juneneill.pei@pei.sympatico.ca writes:

Safe for everybody, just adjust to weight for a cat you'd use about a 1/16
tsp DE to a med sized pinch of sulpher, and yes it is safe for everyone. Put
in a syringe with a little warm water to make sure the cats get their dose.
Sulpher is actually a part of the fleece and fleece production, anything in
moderation is great, but natural does take some time or repeat doses as opposed
to those toxic chemicals in a one bang deal. I have used DE for over 10+
years on everything on our farm including the rabbits, put daily in feed will
help utilize full feed potential as well as leave the rumen or gut at about 7ph
which any kind of worm cannot live in;D Great stuff, and it is also safe to
apply to the animals as well, yes there is dust but keep away from face and
mouth.

june Neill

_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihe_ (http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/)
_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihehttp_ (http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/)

----- Original Message -----
From: _LunarStruck@LunarSt_ (mailto:LunarStruck@aol.com)
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Thanks, June! Is yellow sulphur safe for alpacas and cats too?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 1/20/2009 8:20:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
_juneneill.pei@juneneill.pei@ju_ (mailto:juneneill.pei@pei.sympatico.ca)
writes:

DE works on even the hardiest species of worms if you use yellow sulpher
with it. 1 tsp DE to 1/8 tsp sulpher for a 100lb animal.

june Neill

__http://iherdalpacashttp://iher_ (http://iherdalpacashttp//ihe_)
(_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihe_ (http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/) )
__http://iherdalpacashttp://iherdalp_ (http://iherdalpacashttp//ihehttp_)
(_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihehttp_ (http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/) )

----- Original Message -----
From: driwind
To: _AlpacaTalk@To: _AlpacaTalk@<WBR>_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) )
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In _AlpacaTalk@--- In _AlpacaTalk@<WBR>yahoo_AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_
(mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ) ,
LunarStruck@LunarS
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Safe for everybody, just adjust to weight for a cat you'd use about a 1/16 tsp DE to a med sized pinch of sulpher, and yes it is safe for everyone. Put in a syringe with a little warm water to make sure the cats get their dose. Sulpher is actually a part of the fleece and fleece production, anything in moderation is great, but natural does take some time or repeat doses as opposed to those toxic chemicals in a one bang deal. I have used DE for over 10+ years on everything on our farm including the rabbits, put daily in feed will help utilize full feed potential as well as leave the rumen or gut at about 7ph which any kind of worm cannot live in;D Great stuff, and it is also safe to apply to the animals as well, yes there is dust but keep away from face and mouth.

june Neill

http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/
http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: LunarStruck@aol.com
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Thanks, June! Is yellow sulphur safe for alpacas and cats too?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 1/20/2009 8:20:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
juneneill.pei@pei.sympatico.ca writes:

DE works on even the hardiest species of worms if you use yellow sulpher
with it. 1 tsp DE to 1/8 tsp sulpher for a 100lb animal.

june Neill

_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihe_ (http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/)
_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihehttp_ (http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/)

----- Original Message -----
From: driwind
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
LunarStruck@, Luna
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Cindy -

Here are my diatomaceous earth dosages. Please make sure you buy FEED
QUALITY D.E. ONLY and not the swimming pool kind which is toxic to all
animals. Don't breathe it in if you can help it, it can cause asthma and lung
damage. I give the following dosages once per day during and right before fly
season.

ALPACAS AND LLAMAS: 1 T D.E. per animal mixed into their pellets
(I just mix it in with their pellets in the pellet
container each time I fill it in fly season)

HORSES, PONIES AND DONKEYS: 1/4 cup D.E. per animal

DOGS AND PUPPIES: 1/2 tsp per dog over 25 lbs., 1/4 tsp if under 25 lbs.,
do not give to puppies under 2 months of age

CATS AND KITTENS: 1/4 tsp per cat over 6 lbs., 1/8 tsp under 6 lbs. - do
not give to kittens under 2 months of age

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA


In a message dated 1/20/2009 8:14:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
alpacas@driwind.com writes:

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
LunarStruck@, Luna
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Thanks, June! Is yellow sulphur safe for alpacas and cats too?

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA




In a message dated 1/20/2009 8:20:51 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
juneneill.pei@pei.sympatico.ca writes:

DE works on even the hardiest species of worms if you use yellow sulpher
with it. 1 tsp DE to 1/8 tsp sulpher for a 100lb animal.

june Neill

_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihe_ (http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/)
_http://iherdalpacashttp://ihehttp_ (http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/)

----- Original Message -----
From: driwind
To: _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com)
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
LunarStruck@, Luna
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] frozen lip

That makes sense! Glad he's okay! Hang in there, alpacas can be very
daunting when you first start out but the learning process is very fast! : )

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA


In a message dated 1/20/2009 6:28:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
houckj@aol.com writes:

<<<Janice - if it happens again, you can pour warm water on a frozen lip
to get
it "unstuck". That is the safest method.

SUSAN OLSON>>>>

That was my first impulse, but then I realized it was not going to get
above freezing for a couple of days and nights, at that time it was
below freezing with wind chill of minus 5 so I figured I would only do
more harm as there would just be more water to freeze on his face. I
decided safest to leave it be. I would have had to halter him to pour
water on his face and attempt to dry it off. Because of where it was
the haltering process likely would have broken off the frozen part and
possibly injured him. It appears fine now after the thaw.
Thanks! Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] Kiss Me Duos

hi Elizabeth - your butterflies are beautiful but i have to say the 'kiss me duos' really won my heart - they are adorable!
thanks for sharing your artwork
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

DE works on even the hardiest species of worms if you use yellow sulpher with it. 1 tsp DE to 1/8 tsp sulpher for a 100lb animal.

june Neill

http://iherdalpacas.etsy.com/
http://iherdalpacas.blogspot.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: driwind
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, LunarStruck@... wrote:
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Fleas

Susan, how much DE do you give to the alpacas?

Cinda Young
Driwind Alpacas

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, LunarStruck@... wrote:
>
> Diatomaceous earth did not work for me on tapeworms in cats. Also,
I never
> put it directly on an animal or do more than a light sprinkle on
their
> bedding as it causes damage to the lungs if breathed in. I love the
stuff for
> flies, though - fed to horses and alpacas daily and put on the poo
piles it
> really decreases the amount of flies.
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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