[AlpacaTalk] RE: custom feed

<<Our feed is sort of concentrated, we also feed at half the weight that
most feeds require. Right now the "retail" price is around $21 per 50
lb bag, but instead of feeding 2 cups to pregnant and nursing dams, we
feed 1 cup. The boys get 1/2 cup. I feed the boys, and 1 bag lasts 2
weeks for 15 adult males. It goes as far as 2 50 lb bags of most other
feeds, which makes it like 2 bags for $11.50. Fed according to the
label, we think this is the best deal in feed available!>>

Heather, any idea what it would cost to ship to GA? A lot I am sure.
What would you suggest as a vitamin additive to hay pellets? I am going
to make the attempt once again to make the switch away from grain based
pellets. I agree with what you say about all the junk they throw in
there. I have tried to convince myself it must be good if they are
using Dr Evan's formula (Southern States). The label does not reveal
what is in it, just various "products" - "grain products, plant protein
products, process grain by-products, roughage products, molasses
products" and then a long list of vitamins and yeast cultures and extracts.

Thanks! Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: feed

<<looking forward to more discussion - yes Janice, i know we talked
about feed last year, but i'm slow to learn i guess - there are many
differing opinions on feed, but i have to find the right mix for my
animals. Most things are not available in our small valley but i don't
mind making the drive or ordering online if i feel i'm getting the right
stuff.>>

Oh Wendy I hope you didn't think I was *complaining* about the feed
discussion.....far from it. I too am still trying to get it figured out
and do it right. I learn so much from everyone here and what they are
doing.....and I keep trying to find what will work for my dear pacas and
keep them healthy as possible (as I have no vet backup - in fact I had a
sick one last week that I was sure would be dead by morning. He
wouldn't eat, had "that look" in his eyes and was having trouble getting
up and down. It was evening and we had a cmas event to go to. I didn't
want to go I was so worried about my boy....my personality plus gelding.
But I knew there was nothing I could do. I worried all evening and
couldn't wait to get home, but dreaded it at the same time. Glory be he
was looking much better by the time I got home. And was fine and eating
again by morning. I have lost 2 very quickly with the same
symptoms.....didn't eat a meal, had "that look" and were dead by
morning. I cannot tell you the relief, I was already stressing about
how to bury him and grieving mightily and feeling so very helpless. Not
having a vet sucks big time. So indeed I am very very interested in the
absolute best possible way to feed them). So I right there with you
learning more with every discussion :-). I was only commenting that
Heather has talked about this before - this not feeding grain - and I
tried but failed. But wanting to try again.

So what I am thinking now is to look for alfalfa/hay pellets and by
adding the beet pulp I can still get them to eat their minerals. Now I
need to find out about adding vitamins? I am also wondering about
whether I need to do something to replenish my Allie's intestinal flora
since she had that round of antibiotics this summer after her eye got
scratched out......whether - because I have read that they get the
natural bacteria they need from grazing on grass; and how - in case that
is not enough after a round of antibiotics????

As for the beet pulp, you say you stopped using after the discussion on
this list. Yet I read just the opposite!? I *started* giving them beet
pulp after our discussion here a few months ago. So maybe we need to
have that discussion again? I am happy because it is getting them to
eat their minerals, but I don't want to do harm in the meantime.

Warmly, Janice

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