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Tuesday, August 07, 2007

Re: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: New to the list and Market question

Hi Shere -- Is the whole area available for the alps, or does your house/garage/lawn, etc. take up part of it? You need to compute how much space you actually have for their use. You can do lots of creative things with just a couple of acres by using good, protective perimeter fencing and then lots of interior subdividing with portable fencing (for example, things like Electronet which works a charm and can be moved in minutes).

Lots also depends on what the pastures contain in the way of nutrition. Obviously the more grass and other appropriate nutrition is available and the less weeds there are, the more the alps will literally get out of it. You may have to supplement with hay, although most people seem to do so anyway (I don't offer any supplemental hay during grazing season, but I think many, if not most, folks do). Depending where you're located in NYS, the land can support great grazing or terrific rocks (sometimes both - the alps have to choose). If your land has decent soil structure, diversity in forage with lots of beneficial microbes, etc., and can be easily subdivided, you can support the number of alpacas you're considering easily.

In terms of the overall market, I agree that it's been fairly consistent over time. I think the fiber market is being addressed far better today than in the past, which will open up opportunities to help subsidize an operation through the fleece harvest, which is all to the good. There are certainly many more markets available, more processors available, and more public awareness of the benefits of alpaca fleece than ever before, in any event.

Judith Korff

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Randolph, New York 14772
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posted by Chaddo at 3:10 PM 0 comments

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Re: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: New to the list and Market question

Hi Heather, Emily and all :)
Thanks so much for your input :) I have been watching the market and feel like the article we found wasn't researched too well. We first started looking at Alpacas in 2001 and the prices seem about the same to me now.

One question tho? We have 2 1/2 acres. We DONT want to Agist our animals we prefer to take care of them ourselves. Any suggestions as to paddock /pasture sizes on a small property like this? We will ony have 3 animals to start with.

Thanks

Shere
New York State

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posted by Chaddo at 12:12 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: New to the list and Market question

I'll agree. We've been in the business for 10 years and prices have
been very stable. There have always been those who need a quick sale
and offer one or more animals at deep discounts, and people are always
liquidating herds for various reasons from health issues to retirement
to job transfers... But I still see plenty of high priced animals
selling all the time!

Heather

Heather Zeleny
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On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Vanessa wrote:

> I have been in the business for five years and have, to date, sold
> one male. Mainly the reason behind this is that we've had almost
> nothing but bad luck! All boys, deaths and pregnancies that
> disappear after 10 months.
>
> I personally feel that the market has not changed. This mainly is
> seen in the pricing structure of alpacas. Just go to Alpaca Nation
> and you will see that the average prices are still where they were
> over five years ago. This tells me that it's a stable economy for
> alpacas.
>
> If you plan well and breed the best that you can you should have no
> problem getting on the selling side of the alpaca business.
>
> On the other side, the fiber, there is plenty out there that you can
> get from other farms for next to nothing if you'd like to consider
> starting your own fiber business. Because of my bad luck I have
> moved over this year more to the fiber side of the business, which I
> didn't plan on being in for another couple of years.
>
> We love owning alpacas and wouldn't do it any other way (other than
> NOT agisting as we had no control over our animals). These wonderful
> gentle creatures (usually! ;o}) are a delight to own and I think it's
> great that we have two alternatives in making money with them.
>
>
>

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posted by Chaddo at 10:43 AM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: New to the list and Market question

I have been in the business for five years and have, to date, sold
one male. Mainly the reason behind this is that we've had almost
nothing but bad luck! All boys, deaths and pregnancies that
disappear after 10 months.

I personally feel that the market has not changed. This mainly is
seen in the pricing structure of alpacas. Just go to Alpaca Nation
and you will see that the average prices are still where they were
over five years ago. This tells me that it's a stable economy for
alpacas.

If you plan well and breed the best that you can you should have no
problem getting on the selling side of the alpaca business.

On the other side, the fiber, there is plenty out there that you can
get from other farms for next to nothing if you'd like to consider
starting your own fiber business. Because of my bad luck I have
moved over this year more to the fiber side of the business, which I
didn't plan on being in for another couple of years.

We love owning alpacas and wouldn't do it any other way (other than
NOT agisting as we had no control over our animals). These wonderful
gentle creatures (usually! ;o}) are a delight to own and I think it's
great that we have two alternatives in making money with them.

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posted by Chaddo at 10:26 AM 0 comments

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Re: RE: [AlpacaTalk] New to list and market question addendum

Hi Peter :)

Siberians are a beautiful breed. We have Exotic Shorthairs--basically short haired persians.
I will continue breeding and showing my cats but we are eager to do the same with the Alpacas :_)

I have a feeling there will always be a market for top show breeding stock? If the Alpaca market follows other animal breeding... even now top show holsteins sell for alot more than the average dairy cow.

Shere
SunSoar Exotics
NY state
>
> From: "Peter Lundberg" <pclundberg@msn.com>
> Date: 2007/08/07 Tue AM 09:50:52 EDT
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] New to list and market question addendum
>
> Speaking of cats & alpacas---My brother owns LundbergSiberians.com whereas,
> we have alpacas.
>
>
> >From: "sherekin1261" <sunsoarcats@windstream.net>
> >Reply-To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> >To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [AlpacaTalk] New to list and market question addendum
> >Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:19:35 -0000
> >
> >oops! Im sorry all
> >
> >We dont have a farm name yet... tho we will probably use my cattery
> >name "SunSoar" and we are in upstate NY :)
> >
> >Thanks again
> >
> >Shere Crossman
> >
>
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posted by Chaddo at 6:58 AM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] New to list and market question addendum

Speaking of cats & alpacas---My brother owns LundbergSiberians.com whereas,
we have alpacas.

>From: "sherekin1261" <sunsoarcats@windstream.net>
>Reply-To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [AlpacaTalk] New to list and market question addendum
>Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:19:35 -0000
>
>oops! Im sorry all
>
>We dont have a farm name yet... tho we will probably use my cattery
>name "SunSoar" and we are in upstate NY :)
>
>Thanks again
>
>Shere Crossman
>

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posted by Chaddo at 6:50 AM 0 comments