[AlpacaTalk] Re: everything! :)

Hi everyone!

Well I'm sorry I haven't replied much on the past few days. I'm
really working hard on my fleeces! I finished some fawn I carded up a
week or so ago and finally have 160 yards of 2 ply yarn, 5.7 oz.,
about 10-12 wpi. I really hope my speed improves!

To answer about halter training, I don't know, I don't think there is
one right way. I do think there are plenty of wrong ways, though. But
mostly, I think going slow and gentle is the best. Definitely don't
leave the halter on when you're not working with them. Yes, there
will be thrashing and bucking when you start with the lead. Sometimes
even when you start with the halter only. That's why I like to start
as early as possible (if possible) so they are just used to it from
the start. The older they are, the wilder they are, and the longer
it'll take to get them trusting.

Let's see. I think there was a question on greys. I don't remember
what it was but anyway I am certainly not an expert. I only know what
we've found in our own breeding program and what I've seen in others.

But my big news tonight is that my TB girl who was bred to my DRG boy
Scirocco and aborted twins, then bred back to Penumbra, aborted twins
again today! Not exciting in the I'm really happy way, but exciting
in that she was carrying twins again. I just hope next time she
carries them to term! But I'll wait till spring to breed her now. And
I'll have the vet check her out, and talk about progesterone
supplementation. Looking at her history, she's only had singletons
before and was kept open the year before I got her. She's only 9 or
10, not to old. If anyone has advice here, please speak!

That's my news!
Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: halter training

<<<<Hmmm. That is a nice story. Thanks for sharing.
I have been able to get the halters on, but trying to lead them turns
out to be dangerous with
the kicking and rearing up!>>>>

Lysa, I can't imagine trying to hand feed 2 males at the same time; that
must be quite a feat :-). Sounds like you are doing great with these
boys! Maybe you could take turns hand feeding one while the other eats
and then reverse at the next feeding.....keeping them together, but one
eating on his own?
I am no expert, but will offer you the only tip I have that was given to
me.......hold that lead rope right up under the chin so you have a firm
grasp. That way you are controlling the head no matter what the legs
are trying to do! And can prevent the rearing up by putting some
downward pressure on the chin/head.
I was told this by a llama breeder watching me trying to lead my first
alpaca as she was weaving and bouncing and kicking up a fuss! The woman
grabbed the lead rope right up under the chin and had nearly instant
control. I was impressed and have done it that way ever since.....until
they can walk nicely that is; and even still in stressful or potentially
frightening situations. It seems to give them a sense of security or at
least that someone is in control.

Warmly, Janice
PS Merry weighed 21# yesterday! a 1# gain in 2 days - I skipped a day,
and she is getting so darn hard to carry I am going to start with the
halter for a few minutes today and work with that for several days and
try to lead her next time. I think I can safely start weighing her only
2x wk now. She is getting too doggone big and strong to carry and those
legs, oh my those legs - so long and so strong. She has kicked over
everything in my office trying to get in to the scales!

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