Re: [AlpacaTalk] fertility issues

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Yup, I was going to not breed again till spring, but do a uterine flush for 5 days with a Betadine dilution, wait 2 weeks and try again. Actually will try that on another old girl who had incredible stats as a youngster, and full Bolivian.
I don't know, Heather, you've got a mystery girl on your hands. If she doesn't get too upset by aborting I would keep trying, just breeding her one time. The only other thing I might suspect is a low-grade uterine infection, retained fluid in her uterus or scar tissue that is causing her not to hang on to the pregnancies. You might try some antibiotics for 10 days right after your breed her and see what happens and go from there.SUSAN OLSONAlpaca LocoRiverside, CA
Dani,
Heather,
In a recent talk by Dr. Tibary, he mentioned that in his view, fraternal twins are "caused" by where the dam is in her cycle. Since one follicle is growing while the other is already mature/post mature, it is possible to catch the dam where both are available for fertilization.
So maybe it's worth trying to track her progesterone or do ultrasounds to see where she is in her follicle development prior to a breeding?
Cheers,
Dani
Dani McKenzie & Hovey Moore
Longbottom Meadows
Roy, WA
360-400-0348
http://www.longbottommeadows. com/
Heather,
In a recent talk by Dr. Tibary, he mentioned that in his view, fraternal twins are "caused" by where the dam is in her cycle. Since one follicle is growing while the other is already mature/post mature, it is possible to catch the dam where both are available for fertilization.
So maybe it's worth trying to track her progesterone or do ultrasounds to see where she is in her follicle development prior to a breeding?
Cheers,
Dani
Dani McKenzie & Hovey Moore
Longbottom Meadows
Roy, WA
360-400-0348
http://www.longbott
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> Ok. So I have this girl, who I got specifically to breed to my dark
> rose grey boy. She has now had 3 abortions in a row, of twins. Three
> times twins! All three have been aborted at the end of the 1st
> trimester. She barely noticed. This time it was 80 days or so, and I
> haven't had time to examine them yet, but the two little sacs are
> only maybe 2-3" across. The little embryo/fetus is smaller than that,
> obviously...
>
> No need for condolences, Really.
>
> It's just aggravating. I really love this girl for her bloodlines and
> that she's true black that throws true black when bred to white and
> fawn, every time. But I am about out of hope that she'll ever carry a
> singleton to term. What to do? I haven't contacted her previous
> owners yet. But there doesn't appear to be any evidence of infection
> or any problem conceiving. She just has twins, every time I've bred
> her! One of those times it was to a black boy, not my rose grey, so
> the sire can't be a probably cause.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Oregon
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Yeah Carolyn that will be the next step. I am trying to figure out when is the best time to u/s? I don't want to do it too eary. Glad to hear I am not the only one scratching my head with these critters. Robin Richard and Robin Vasquez R & R Ranch LLC 325B Denio Avenue Gilroy,CA 95020 Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/ A Ranch of Distinction www.LoveThemAlpacas.com LTA --- On Wed, 10/21/09, sesamedame@aol.
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Yeah, we have nutty girls who do this. Usually it is open girls who mount other open ones, and usually only during a real breeding.
Let me thow another fertility question at you. I have two females. One older and one maiden. They both have positive progesterone test 2 wks ago for pregnancy. The older dam still runs from the male and she usually kushed fast so I think she is pregnant. The young maiden does not cush really fast but follows the male around like a puppy dog and will rub his neck with hers if he is doing another breeding. Sunday the older gal was mounted on top of the younger maiden as if breeding humming as loud as she could. She still runs from the male and the younger gal still follows him around with sad puppy eyes. What do you guys think? Pregnant or not? We will do another PG test and u/s.RobinRichard and Robin Vasquez
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Ok, well, this girl came to my farm in December 2007. Maybe January 2008. She was bred to my rose grey boy May 31, 2008. Here's the calendar for her:
Heather - just a thought - could her twinning have something to do with being bred multiple times since they are induced ovulators? If she were mine, I would breed her just once and see what happens.SUSAN OLSONAlpaca LocoRiverside, CA