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Saturday, November 21, 2009

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve

 

So I guess we agree.  We don't know if they are Full Peruvian, Full Bolivian or Full Chilean. It is all marketing.  I tend to just stick with the facts on proven records and fiber.  Give me the facts, histograms and whatever else you have on their ancestors. The more the better.
 I don't care where people think  their ancestors might have come from
We need to talk about that more and get the ancestor thing out of the picture. Again just my thoughts.
Robin 
Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 6:12 PM

 
Yes, that is what they say, and it's certainly true. To what extent, I don't know if we'll ever know. How true the legend or Roger Haldane smuggling Peruvian alpacas into Chile for export to Australia is always a debate.

I do agree, when it comes down to it, it's fleece quality that is most important. 

Heather


On Nov 21, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Richard & Robin Vasquez wrote:


Well let me chime in and stir the pot a bit.   I don't know what full Alianza is but if you listen to the people involved in the import process long ago it depended on where it happened to be easier to export at the time.  Peruvian alpacas were moved and exported from Bolivia or Chile.   Alpacas that were in Bolivia or Chile were transported to Peru and were exported from Peru.  I don't think we really know where they are from and not really sure it matters in the long haul.  What matters is their fleece quality and hopefully their proven lineage and records.    Just my thoughts.
Robin  

Richard and Robin Vasquez 
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue 
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/ 710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 

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posted by Chaddo at 6:17 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve

 

Yes, that is what they say, and it's certainly true. To what extent, I don't know if we'll ever know. How true the legend or Roger Haldane smuggling Peruvian alpacas into Chile for export to Australia is always a debate.


I do agree, when it comes down to it, it's fleece quality that is most important. 

Heather


On Nov 21, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Richard & Robin Vasquez wrote:


Well let me chime in and stir the pot a bit.   I don't know what full Alianza is but if you listen to the people involved in the import process long ago it depended on where it happened to be easier to export at the time.  Peruvian alpacas were moved and exported from Bolivia or Chile.   Alpacas that were in Bolivia or Chile were transported to Peru and were exported from Peru.  I don't think we really know where they are from and not really sure it matters in the long haul.  What matters is their fleece quality and hopefully their proven lineage and records.    Just my thoughts.
Robin  

Richard and Robin Vasquez 
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue 
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 

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posted by Chaddo at 6:12 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve

 

Well let me chime in and stir the pot a bit.   I don't know what full Alianza is but if you listen to the people involved in the import process long ago it depended on where it happened to be easier to export at the time.  Peruvian alpacas were moved and exported from Bolivia or Chile.   Alpacas that were in Bolivia or Chile were transported to Peru and were exported from Peru.  I don't think we really know where they are from and not really sure it matters in the long haul.  What matters is their fleece quality and hopefully their proven lineage and records.    Just my thoughts.
Robin 

Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 4:45 PM

 
Alright. First of all, I don't like the term "pet peeve." :)

But here's a thing that annoys me A LOT!

On the big websites like AlpacaNation and OpenHerd, I see a lot of
alpacas with the heritage wrong. I don't know how much is done
purposely, for more views, or if it's accidental. But listing an
animal, in their description as, for example, full Alianza, but then
selecting "Full Bolivian" in the drop down heritage selection deals,
is just wrong.

If you are trying to get more views for your animal, someone looking
for full Bolivian is not going to really want that full Alianza animal.

And I'm only using that as an example because it happens to me all
the time in my searches.

So, really, it's so easy to look at your animal's registration or
look them up on ARI and get it right. And you'll get the right people
looking at your animals, and they won't be put off your farm by your
listing of animals' heritages incorrectly. I know I'm in no rush to
buy from a farm that can't get even that right...

Heather

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posted by Chaddo at 5:32 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Pet peeve

 

Alright. First of all, I don't like the term "pet peeve." :)

But here's a thing that annoys me A LOT!

On the big websites like AlpacaNation and OpenHerd, I see a lot of
alpacas with the heritage wrong. I don't know how much is done
purposely, for more views, or if it's accidental. But listing an
animal, in their description as, for example, full Alianza, but then
selecting "Full Bolivian" in the drop down heritage selection deals,
is just wrong.

If you are trying to get more views for your animal, someone looking
for full Bolivian is not going to really want that full Alianza animal.

And I'm only using that as an example because it happens to me all
the time in my searches.

So, really, it's so easy to look at your animal's registration or
look them up on ARI and get it right. And you'll get the right people
looking at your animals, and they won't be put off your farm by your
listing of animals' heritages incorrectly. I know I'm in no rush to
buy from a farm that can't get even that right...

Heather

__._,_.___
Message posts are the opinion of individuals posting and are not necessarily endorsed or approved by Yahoo! or the moderator of this group. The purpose of this discussion group is to ensure that all points of view can be aired. It is the responsbilty of all individuals who post to treat others with respect and civility.
.

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posted by Chaddo at 4:45 PM 0 comments