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Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc


Hey Heather,

Nothing against the shearing restraints here.  My only issue is having one set of hands to help out.  My kids will be able to help out in a few years, but right now, I am on my own. 

Another option might be a chute.  Put a scale in it and you can get get weights done also.

I wonder if there is some kind of soil to help naturally trim the nails - I would think they don't have it done much in the Altiplano.

Heidi

Heidi Christensen
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www.wingnut-alpacas.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 5:53 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

Hi all,
I have to say that I do think Marty McGee's ways to do things are
certainly good. I haven't taken her courses nor have I gotten around to
reading the books, but I do know a few things about the methods and I
know I need to learn more and practice them.

That being said, our usual way of doing herd health is to all gang up
(four of us) on the poor alpaca(s) and hold them as tightly as
possible, and then do whatever needs to be done. For feet, it often
comes down to the alpaca cushing and us rolling them on their sides and
holding tight... then trimming their toenails.

And after several years of shearing without restraints, this year we
did use the restraints on the ground but not a shearing table, I do not
feel that the table or the leg restraints are the least bit inhumane.
It immobilizes the alpaca making an unexpected escape attempt which can
injure the humans, and during shearing the alpaca can get a serious
cut... And to me making any procedure safer, from shearing to shots to
toenail trimming, that is much more humane than the other. The other
being manhandling and wrestling into submission... :) Of course having
them stand nicely would be the best!

I do hope you find someone closeby to help you with your herd health
chores. If we were closer we'd come help!

Heather

Heather Zeleny
West Wind Alpacas
Eugene, OR

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
http://www.westwindalpacas.com/
http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

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posted by Chaddo at 8:40 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: pneumonia in alpaca



Thanks Heather, I have looked for a new vet in my area, middle Tennessee
several times, I just cannot find one that I would trust. My girl alpaca
was a little better today. My boy llama was not doing so well. I am
hoping that they are both better tomorrow. I have also been giving them
electrolytes. If anyone knows of a vet close to middle Tennessee please
let me know, I could really use one.

Thanks for all the advice,

Wendy

-- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@...> wrote:
>
> Well let me clarify. Our entire herd was tested for liver flukes, many
> if not most were positive. Treatment was to kill the liver flukes but
> the after effects killed those three I mentioned. Congestive heart
> failure, liver failure, sepsis...
>
> So I just don't feel that waiting and seeing is the best course of
> action. That may just be my opinion, but I wouldn't wait around.
>
> Heather
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:
>
> > Wendy,
> > I have to say that your vet's advice doesn't make a lot of sense to
> > me.
> > I don't know why he wouldn't want to make some diagnoses to see if
> > your
> > other animals are sick, take some bloods for example, rather than
wait
> > for the rest to go downhill before starting them on treatment. I'll
be
> > honest, I really don't know how test for pneumonia, but I'm sure
that
> > blood tests are in order, and they will not only tell what your sick
> > one has, and if the rest have the same thing. And then you will know
> > to
> > treat for that rather than wait till they all get really really
sick.
> > If it's blood borne of course.
> >
> > Maybe you might want to look around for a new vet?
> >
> > We had a bout with liver flukes at another property once, and while
> > many were tested and diagnosed with them, the treatment was to just
> > wait. After losing our best 3, we asked what we could do... we were
> > met
> > with blank stares from our vet (a leading camelid vet) and the staff
> > at
> > OSU. Needless to say, we didn't just wait and see, we aggressively
> > treated with herbs after doing a whole lot of research and
> > investigation. WE didn't lose another animal.
> >
> > So what I'm saying is, I'd get a second opinion. Best of luck to
you!
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > Heather Zeleny
> > West Wind Alpacas
> > Eugene, OR
> >
> > Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> > Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro
grandson
> > Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea
Farms!
> > http://www.westwindalpacas.com/
> > http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join
> >
> > On Oct 6, 2007, at 12:40 PM, wnunezcruz wrote:
> >
> > > I have 8 alpacas and 8 llamas. I brought home 2 pregnant llamas
> > about
> > > 10 days ago. After about 6 days my alpacas and llamas got runny
> > noses.
> > > I had my vet check them (he is more of a cattle vet but does know
> > some
> > > about alpacas) and he said to wait and see if they go off of their
> > > feed. I went out yesterday and had a girl off of her feed and
laying
> > > down breathing hard, runny eyes and nose. I also had a male llama
> > with
> > > the same symptoms. My vet came out and gave me Nufor? 3 cc/100
lbs.
> > I
> > > asked him if I should dose all of my alpacas and llamas and he
said
> > to
> > > wait until they go off of their food. My girl alpaca is better
> > today,
> > > my llama not so good. Can anyone tell me if they have had this
> > problem
> > > or what you would suggest about going ahead and dosing my other
> > > animals?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Wendy
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] pneumonia in alpaca

Well let me clarify. Our entire herd was tested for liver flukes, many
if not most were positive. Treatment was to kill the liver flukes but
the after effects killed those three I mentioned. Congestive heart
failure, liver failure, sepsis...

So I just don't feel that waiting and seeing is the best course of
action. That may just be my opinion, but I wouldn't wait around.

Heather

On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

> Wendy,
> I have to say that your vet's advice doesn't make a lot of sense to
> me.
> I don't know why he wouldn't want to make some diagnoses to see if
> your
> other animals are sick, take some bloods for example, rather than wait
> for the rest to go downhill before starting them on treatment. I'll be
> honest, I really don't know how test for pneumonia, but I'm sure that
> blood tests are in order, and they will not only tell what your sick
> one has, and if the rest have the same thing. And then you will know
> to
> treat for that rather than wait till they all get really really sick.
> If it's blood borne of course.
>
> Maybe you might want to look around for a new vet?
>
> We had a bout with liver flukes at another property once, and while
> many were tested and diagnosed with them, the treatment was to just
> wait. After losing our best 3, we asked what we could do... we were
> met
> with blank stares from our vet (a leading camelid vet) and the staff
> at
> OSU. Needless to say, we didn't just wait and see, we aggressively
> treated with herbs after doing a whole lot of research and
> investigation. WE didn't lose another animal.
>
> So what I'm saying is, I'd get a second opinion. Best of luck to you!
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> West Wind Alpacas
> Eugene, OR
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
> Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
> http://www.westwindalpacas.com/
> http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join
>
> On Oct 6, 2007, at 12:40 PM, wnunezcruz wrote:
>
> > I have 8 alpacas and 8 llamas. I brought home 2 pregnant llamas
> about
> > 10 days ago. After about 6 days my alpacas and llamas got runny
> noses.
> > I had my vet check them (he is more of a cattle vet but does know
> some
> > about alpacas) and he said to wait and see if they go off of their
> > feed. I went out yesterday and had a girl off of her feed and laying
> > down breathing hard, runny eyes and nose. I also had a male llama
> with
> > the same symptoms. My vet came out and gave me Nufor? 3 cc/100 lbs.
> I
> > asked him if I should dose all of my alpacas and llamas and he said
> to
> > wait until they go off of their food. My girl alpaca is better
> today,
> > my llama not so good. Can anyone tell me if they have had this
> problem
> > or what you would suggest about going ahead and dosing my other
> > animals?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Wendy
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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posted by Chaddo at 6:20 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] pneumonia in alpaca

Wendy,
I have to say that your vet's advice doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I don't know why he wouldn't want to make some diagnoses to see if your
other animals are sick, take some bloods for example, rather than wait
for the rest to go downhill before starting them on treatment. I'll be
honest, I really don't know how test for pneumonia, but I'm sure that
blood tests are in order, and they will not only tell what your sick
one has, and if the rest have the same thing. And then you will know to
treat for that rather than wait till they all get really really sick.
If it's blood borne of course.

Maybe you might want to look around for a new vet?

We had a bout with liver flukes at another property once, and while
many were tested and diagnosed with them, the treatment was to just
wait. After losing our best 3, we asked what we could do... we were met
with blank stares from our vet (a leading camelid vet) and the staff at
OSU. Needless to say, we didn't just wait and see, we aggressively
treated with herbs after doing a whole lot of research and
investigation. WE didn't lose another animal.

So what I'm saying is, I'd get a second opinion. Best of luck to you!

Heather

Heather Zeleny
West Wind Alpacas
Eugene, OR

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
http://www.westwindalpacas.com/
http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

On Oct 6, 2007, at 12:40 PM, wnunezcruz wrote:

> I have 8 alpacas and 8 llamas. I brought home 2 pregnant llamas about
> 10 days ago. After about 6 days my alpacas and llamas got runny noses.
> I had my vet check them (he is more of a cattle vet but does know some
> about alpacas) and he said to wait and see if they go off of their
> feed. I went out yesterday and had a girl off of her feed and laying
> down breathing hard, runny eyes and nose. I also had a male llama with
> the same symptoms. My vet came out and gave me Nufor? 3 cc/100 lbs. I
> asked him if I should dose all of my alpacas and llamas and he said to
> wait until they go off of their food. My girl alpaca is better today,
> my llama not so good. Can anyone tell me if they have had this problem
> or what you would suggest about going ahead and dosing my other
> animals?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Wendy

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posted by Chaddo at 6:11 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

Hi all,
I have to say that I do think Marty McGee's ways to do things are
certainly good. I haven't taken her courses nor have I gotten around to
reading the books, but I do know a few things about the methods and I
know I need to learn more and practice them.

That being said, our usual way of doing herd health is to all gang up
(four of us) on the poor alpaca(s) and hold them as tightly as
possible, and then do whatever needs to be done. For feet, it often
comes down to the alpaca cushing and us rolling them on their sides and
holding tight... then trimming their toenails.

And after several years of shearing without restraints, this year we
did use the restraints on the ground but not a shearing table, I do not
feel that the table or the leg restraints are the least bit inhumane.
It immobilizes the alpaca making an unexpected escape attempt which can
injure the humans, and during shearing the alpaca can get a serious
cut... And to me making any procedure safer, from shearing to shots to
toenail trimming, that is much more humane than the other. The other
being manhandling and wrestling into submission... :) Of course having
them stand nicely would be the best!

I do hope you find someone closeby to help you with your herd health
chores. If we were closer we'd come help!

Heather

Heather Zeleny
West Wind Alpacas
Eugene, OR

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
http://www.westwindalpacas.com/
http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

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posted by Chaddo at 5:53 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc


Hi Wendy,

Until your book arrives, here is some things on toenails from Marty's forum
http://www.camelidynamics.com/guildForum/showthread.php?t=273

Here are her archives on alpacanation -

http://www.alpacanation.com/alpaca-training.asp

there are lots of articles on things like keeping the animal in balance - which I believe is the key to trimming nails without a fuss.? Also, make sure it has been wet out for a few days so the nails are soft.?

They will be fine if they have to go for a few weeks without perfectly trimmed nails.? Learn the basic techniques, and when you feel confident, try picking up the feet.? It is very scary for an animal who depends on fleeing for survival to have that mode of escape removed.?

Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm Alpacas
Graham WA
(253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
www.wingnut-alpacas.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Edwards <wendy.edwards@shaw.ca>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

hi Sharon and Jim - thanks for your kind response - we are on vancouver island - where are you located? I'm sure i sound like a real whiner - but i really felt panicked - Diane Lee, another vancouver islander (and a chat line member) has offered to have us come down to her farm and watch how she and her husband do their alpacas' feet and shots, while the animal is standing - also some practical suggestions for right-now.

we tried Diane's way this morning with one of our girls - we ended up muddy and wet (this is gumboot country) but we got the two feet done that were bad - it amazes me that one hind foot can be fine, while the toenails on the other hind foot have grown so much - The experience gave me a feeling of more confidence

anyway, now our daughter and her partner are arriving on monday to help us, and i'm going to show them Diane's "standing method" as i am much more comfortable with this position than heaving the poor animal onto a table and tying them down -

I've found this alpaca chat line to be really informative and now i find it to be very supportive as well -

i feel the responsibility of these animals very keenly, and of course have come to love them as individuals (who can help it?) - I guess my panic is past, as i now have a sense of how we can manage capably by ourselves. But i am going to really focus on the Marty McGee methods (when my book, video and gear arrive) and learn what i need to know (competence and confidence) i want to make sure i don't find myself losing sleep over "helplessness" again

thanks again,
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon or Jim Dear
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

May we ask where you are located, and then maybe we can come by and help.

Wendy Edwards <wendy.edwards@shaw.ca> wrote:
hi all - we've run into a problem that is causing me to lose sleep - we've had our alpacas for a year now - up until may, the folks we bought them from came over and helped us with our small herd, and we went over to their farm and helped them with their very large herd, teeth, toenails, shots etc
now, the other folks (sellers) have decided they are too busy to help us - i had been led to believe "we all help each other, i'ts a small community" etc etc - now my husband and i find ourselves on our own - there are no other alpaca farmers in our community to form a co-op with, we haven't lived here long enough to know anyone well enough to ask them to help - and our alpacas need their feet trimmed - the older ones have never been on a halter - the process the previous owners used was to heave them on to a shearing table, tie them down and do feet, teeth, shots etc all at the same time - apart from the fact that i hate this rough way of treating the animals (and they hate it too) - my husband and i are a little too old to be wrestling terrified animals - but their feet need doing and at least two of them have feet that look painful

i have ordered Marty's book and bodywrap to enable trimming feet from a standing position, but don't know how long it will take to get here - my question: should i wait til the gear for the gentler method gets here (and leave the feet go til then)? or should we attempt to do what we can and hope no one gets permanently scarred?

I am feeling really frustrated as the sellers made it sound like there was so much support "after-sales" - perhaps i have annoyed them somehow but we've never turned them down when they needed help for toenails or shearing, including working New Years Eve day, and Mothers Day at their farm - but we find ourselves on our own with 14 animals that are depending on us, and that "we'll help you and you help us" attitude has disappeared. No matter what the reason, we are newby's on our own, and i am really worried.
any suggestions out there?
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas

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posted by Chaddo at 5:47 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

hi Sharon and Jim - thanks for your kind response - we are on vancouver island - where are you located? I'm sure i sound like a real whiner - but i really felt panicked - Diane Lee, another vancouver islander (and a chat line member) has offered to have us come down to her farm and watch how she and her husband do their alpacas' feet and shots, while the animal is standing - also some practical suggestions for right-now.

we tried Diane's way this morning with one of our girls - we ended up muddy and wet (this is gumboot country) but we got the two feet done that were bad - it amazes me that one hind foot can be fine, while the toenails on the other hind foot have grown so much - The experience gave me a feeling of more confidence

anyway, now our daughter and her partner are arriving on monday to help us, and i'm going to show them Diane's "standing method" as i am much more comfortable with this position than heaving the poor animal onto a table and tying them down -

I've found this alpaca chat line to be really informative and now i find it to be very supportive as well -

i feel the responsibility of these animals very keenly, and of course have come to love them as individuals (who can help it?) - I guess my panic is past, as i now have a sense of how we can manage capably by ourselves. But i am going to really focus on the Marty McGee methods (when my book, video and gear arrive) and learn what i need to know (competence and confidence) i want to make sure i don't find myself losing sleep over "helplessness" again

thanks again,
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharon or Jim Dear
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

May we ask where you are located, and then maybe we can come by and help.

Wendy Edwards <wendy.edwards@shaw.ca> wrote:
hi all - we've run into a problem that is causing me to lose sleep - we've had our alpacas for a year now - up until may, the folks we bought them from came over and helped us with our small herd, and we went over to their farm and helped them with their very large herd, teeth, toenails, shots etc
now, the other folks (sellers) have decided they are too busy to help us - i had been led to believe "we all help each other, i'ts a small community" etc etc - now my husband and i find ourselves on our own - there are no other alpaca farmers in our community to form a co-op with, we haven't lived here long enough to know anyone well enough to ask them to help - and our alpacas need their feet trimmed - the older ones have never been on a halter - the process the previous owners used was to heave them on to a shearing table, tie them down and do feet, teeth, shots etc all at the same time - apart from the fact that i hate this rough way of treating the animals (and they hate it too) - my husband and i are a little too old to be wrestling terrified animals - but their feet need doing and at least two of them have feet that look painful

i have ordered Marty's book and bodywrap to enable trimming feet from a standing position, but don't know how long it will take to get here - my question: should i wait til the gear for the gentler method gets here (and leave the feet go til then)? or should we attempt to do what we can and hope no one gets permanently scarred?

I am feeling really frustrated as the sellers made it sound like there was so much support "after-sales" - perhaps i have annoyed them somehow but we've never turned them down when they needed help for toenails or shearing, including working New Years Eve day, and Mothers Day at their farm - but we find ourselves on our own with 14 animals that are depending on us, and that "we'll help you and you help us" attitude has disappeared. No matter what the reason, we are newby's on our own, and i am really worried.
any suggestions out there?
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas

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[AlpacaTalk] pneumonia in alpaca

I have 8 alpacas and 8 llamas. I brought home 2 pregnant llamas about
10 days ago. After about 6 days my alpacas and llamas got runny noses.
I had my vet check them (he is more of a cattle vet but does know some
about alpacas) and he said to wait and see if they go off of their
feed. I went out yesterday and had a girl off of her feed and laying
down breathing hard, runny eyes and nose. I also had a male llama with
the same symptoms. My vet came out and gave me Nufor? 3 cc/100 lbs. I
asked him if I should dose all of my alpacas and llamas and he said to
wait until they go off of their food. My girl alpaca is better today,
my llama not so good. Can anyone tell me if they have had this problem
or what you would suggest about going ahead and dosing my other animals?

Thank you,

Wendy

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] trimming feet etc

May we ask where you are located, and then maybe we can come by and help.


Wendy Edwards <wendy.edwards@shaw.ca> wrote:
hi all - we've run into a problem that is causing me to lose sleep - we've had our alpacas for a year now - up until may, the folks we bought them from came over and helped us with our small herd, and we went over to their farm and helped them with their very large herd, teeth, toenails, shots etc
now, the other folks (sellers) have decided they are too busy to help us - i had been led to believe "we all help each other, i'ts a small community" etc etc - now my husband and i find ourselves on our own - there are no other alpaca farmers in our community to form a co-op with, we haven't lived here long enough to know anyone well enough to ask them to help - and our alpacas need their feet trimmed - the older ones have never been on a halter - the process the previous owners used was to heave them on to a shearing table, tie them down and do feet, teeth, shots etc all at the same time - apart from the fact that i hate this rough way of treating the animals (and they hate it too) - my husband and i are a little too old to be wrestling terrified animals - but their feet need doing and at least two of them have feet that look painful

i have ordered Marty's book and bodywrap to enable trimming feet from a standing position, but don't know how long it will take to get here - my question: should i wait til the gear for the gentler method gets here (and leave the feet go til then)? or should we attempt to do what we can and hope no one gets permanently scarred?

I am feeling really frustrated as the sellers made it sound like there was so much support "after-sales" - perhaps i have annoyed them somehow but we've never turned them down when they needed help for toenails or shearing, including working New Years Eve day, and Mothers Day at their farm - but we find ourselves on our own with 14 animals that are depending on us, and that "we'll help you and you help us" attitude has disappeared. No matter what the reason, we are newby's on our own, and i am really worried.
any suggestions out there?
Wendy
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St. Lawrence County
Potsdam, New York
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