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RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

Heather,

At least with ARI we can search the records, even if limited. AOBA has no
search capabilities for any of its data, whether show results, which shows
are held where (for example, by ZIP code or region), or regional
organizations (which organization includes what ZIP codes).

Best,

Denise

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:51 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

Denise,
Equally important is ease of searchability! ARI has a certain amount of
information in the database already, yet it is tiresome to say the
least to search ARI for info. And forget trying to search AOBA show
results. There's no reason that show results shouldn't be submitted in
a standardized format, and uploaded into a database for ease of
searchability, by ARI# for example. One could easily type in an ARI#
and get all show placings of a particular animal.

I do agree that the "new" ARI software leaves a lot to be desired. I
Maybe in time they'll implement more features to make it easier to find
the info we want.

Heather

On Nov 23, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:

> Heather,
>
> I doubt lack of accepting an apostrophe is an ARI rule as much as
> poorly
> designed software. The error message I received said I had used and
> illegal
> character, the apostrophe, when identifying L'Etoille's name.
>
> For example, software design problems I frequently see is with a
> hyphenated
> married name. Insurance agencies, credit cards, even various levels of
> government use software that is not designed to accept a hyphen in a
> surname. Another example is gender (or sex). Most software, even on
> printed
> forms, identify only two genders - female and male. The software
> designed by
> the medical device company where I work (radiation treatment for
> cancer)
> identifies six genders, including "unknown" and "not identified". A
> couple
> of years ago we heard a lot about Y2K, yet a two digit vs. four digit
> date
> is minor compared to some software limits I see today.
>
> What concerns me is if the alpaca industry is to use EDPs, the
> information
> needed to make decision must be recordable. If we do not have database
> software that will accept the data we wish to use to make decisions,
> how
> will we be able to make informed decisions?
>
> Best,
>
> Denise
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

Denise,
Equally important is ease of searchability! ARI has a certain amount of
information in the database already, yet it is tiresome to say the
least to search ARI for info. And forget trying to search AOBA show
results. There's no reason that show results shouldn't be submitted in
a standardized format, and uploaded into a database for ease of
searchability, by ARI# for example. One could easily type in an ARI#
and get all show placings of a particular animal.

I do agree that the "new" ARI software leaves a lot to be desired. I
Maybe in time they'll implement more features to make it easier to find
the info we want.

Heather

On Nov 23, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:

> Heather,
>
> I doubt lack of accepting an apostrophe is an ARI rule as much as
> poorly
> designed software. The error message I received said I had used and
> illegal
> character, the apostrophe, when identifying L'Etoille's name.
>
> For example, software design problems I frequently see is with a
> hyphenated
> married name. Insurance agencies, credit cards, even various levels of
> government use software that is not designed to accept a hyphen in a
> surname. Another example is gender (or sex). Most software, even on
> printed
> forms, identify only two genders - female and male. The software
> designed by
> the medical device company where I work (radiation treatment for
> cancer)
> identifies six genders, including "unknown" and "not identified". A
> couple
> of years ago we heard a lot about Y2K, yet a two digit vs. four digit
> date
> is minor compared to some software limits I see today.
>
> What concerns me is if the alpaca industry is to use EDPs, the
> information
> needed to make decision must be recordable. If we do not have database
> software that will accept the data we wish to use to make decisions,
> how
> will we be able to make informed decisions?
>
> Best,
>
> Denise
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA

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posted by Chaddo at 8:51 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

Heather,

I doubt lack of accepting an apostrophe is an ARI rule as much as poorly
designed software. The error message I received said I had used and illegal
character, the apostrophe, when identifying L'Etoille's name.

For example, software design problems I frequently see is with a hyphenated
married name. Insurance agencies, credit cards, even various levels of
government use software that is not designed to accept a hyphen in a
surname. Another example is gender (or sex). Most software, even on printed
forms, identify only two genders - female and male. The software designed by
the medical device company where I work (radiation treatment for cancer)
identifies six genders, including "unknown" and "not identified". A couple
of years ago we heard a lot about Y2K, yet a two digit vs. four digit date
is minor compared to some software limits I see today.

What concerns me is if the alpaca industry is to use EDPs, the information
needed to make decision must be recordable. If we do not have database
software that will accept the data we wish to use to make decisions, how
will we be able to make informed decisions?

Best,

Denise

Denise L. Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

Santa Clara, CA

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:19 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

That's aggravating.

You know, I think they're making up rules as they go, and enforcing
them as they interpret them at any given time.

Margaret Brewster, a Canadian breeder, has long registered her animals
as "Name" Brew, with Brew being her herd ID. Someone else wanted to use
that sort of naming convention, and it was rejected by ARI. Only after
long back and forth and heated arguments did this other breeder
prevail.

I had a problem with my old farm name of "West Wind." Another farm
reserved "West Winds" before I reserved "West Wind." Regardless of the
fact that I had reserved "westwindalpacas.com" and was an AOBA member
using the name of West Wind Alpacas since 2001. Everything was fine for
years, until one day they discovered the similarity and revoked my use
of "West Wind" therefore prompting the changing of my farm name. They
did allow me to reserve West Wind Ltd, however.

People using the same farm name as someone else really annoys me.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR

541.895.0964

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:

> One additional element to L'Etoille's name. The software used by ARI
> does
> not accept an apostrophe in an alpaca's name. (You can use an
> apostrophe in
> the three letter breeder name when used as part of an alpaca's name,
> but not
> in the alpaca's name.) I called and spoke with an ARI representative
> when
> registering L'Etolle. The best she could recommend was to "drop" the
> apostrophe in the registered name (from L'Etolle to L Etolle) so the
> system
> would accept the name. So, while his name is L'Etolle, the ARI
> registered
> name is L Etolle.
>
> Best,
>
> Denise
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA
>
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> On
> Behalf Of Allison Moss-Fritch
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:13 PM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've also been working at cria naming.it was not easy. I like strong,
> one
> word names that are memorable and imbued with positive
> characteristics.
> After a while it is hard to come up with something fresh.
>
> So, I bridged the language gap back to French, my first language and
> we have
> a new little shining suri boy (our 12th in a row males) named,
> "L'Etoille"
> which means, loosely translated, "The Star" or "The Showman"..as in
> "movie
> star", etc.
>
> So when, a few week later, this past Thursday we finally had a very
> similar
> little suri girl in bright white curls.I was at a loss.but a very
> happy loss
> after 12 boys in a row.a GIRL, and healthy at that.
>
> She is, after much looking into mythology and through both Christian
> and
> Wiccan name books for something which embodies her life
> position.."Ismene"
> which means among other things."Loyal Ruler" or "Named for Peace" The
> name
> has a long history, it appears in the cycle of Greek Plays called
> Antigone.
> Ismene is also a mythological daughter of a river god noted for her
> courageous actions.
>
> For a male and one black as night.I'd be tempted to name him "Night
> Trax".for the footprints left on a dark road on a moonless night. That
> means he's got a path to leave for others to follow. Which is a good
> visual
> for a leader
>
> Just a thought for when you are having a hard time coming up with
> something
> different!
>
> Allison Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA
>
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> On
> Behalf Of Wendy Edwards
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:20 PM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> hi Flossie - great minds must think alike eh? to me, the name
> DreamWeaver
> embodies so many of my feelings around my alpacas.
> I also like the name of your farm - it sounds so peaceful
>
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> BC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Flossie Carmichael
> To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> Wendy, I just looked at your farm name. I also have a male named Dream
> Weaver. We call him Weaver.
> Flossie
> Flossie and Joe Carmichael GentleGrangeAlpacas Jamison,Pa.
> Home-215-918-0339
> Cell-267-614-9620 http://www.alpacanation.com/gentlegrange.asp
>
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.comFrom
<mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
> : wendy.edwards@shaw.caDate <mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate>
<mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate>
> <mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate> : Sun, 23
> Nov 2008 11:23:50 -0800Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> My black cria is called "Raven's Royal Flush" after his sire Wild
> Rose Royal
> Flush, a very classy male, who passed away before Raven was
> born.WendyDreamWeaver AlpacasBC----- Original Message ----- From:
> Flossie
> Carmichael To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008
> 6:28
> AMSubject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria nameI had a true black little girl,
> my
> first after 3 years of all boys, born on the same exact day. I named
> her
> Raven because of her color and if you could see her pronk, she
> practically
> flys! Black Magic? or something with Lucky in the name because you
> sure are
> lucky to have a black male. Flossie Flossie and Joe Carmichael
> GentleGrangeAlpacas Jamison,Pa. Home-215-918-0339 Cell-267-614-9620
> http://www.alpacanation.com/gentlegrange.aspTo: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro

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posted by Chaddo at 8:38 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

That's aggravating.

You know, I think they're making up rules as they go, and enforcing
them as they interpret them at any given time.

Margaret Brewster, a Canadian breeder, has long registered her animals
as "Name" Brew, with Brew being her herd ID. Someone else wanted to use
that sort of naming convention, and it was rejected by ARI. Only after
long back and forth and heated arguments did this other breeder
prevail.

I had a problem with my old farm name of "West Wind." Another farm
reserved "West Winds" before I reserved "West Wind." Regardless of the
fact that I had reserved "westwindalpacas.com" and was an AOBA member
using the name of West Wind Alpacas since 2001. Everything was fine for
years, until one day they discovered the similarity and revoked my use
of "West Wind" therefore prompting the changing of my farm name. They
did allow me to reserve West Wind Ltd, however.

People using the same farm name as someone else really annoys me.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Creswell, OR

541.895.0964

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:

> One additional element to L'Etoille's name. The software used by ARI
> does
> not accept an apostrophe in an alpaca's name. (You can use an
> apostrophe in
> the three letter breeder name when used as part of an alpaca's name,
> but not
> in the alpaca's name.) I called and spoke with an ARI representative
> when
> registering L'Etolle. The best she could recommend was to "drop" the
> apostrophe in the registered name (from L'Etolle to L Etolle) so the
> system
> would accept the name. So, while his name is L'Etolle, the ARI
> registered
> name is L Etolle.
>
> Best,
>
> Denise
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA
>
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Allison Moss-Fritch
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:13 PM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've also been working at cria naming.it was not easy. I like strong,
> one
> word names that are memorable and imbued with positive
> characteristics.
> After a while it is hard to come up with something fresh.
>
> So, I bridged the language gap back to French, my first language and
> we have
> a new little shining suri boy (our 12th in a row males) named,
> "L'Etoille"
> which means, loosely translated, "The Star" or "The Showman"..as in
> "movie
> star", etc.
>
> So when, a few week later, this past Thursday we finally had a very
> similar
> little suri girl in bright white curls.I was at a loss.but a very
> happy loss
> after 12 boys in a row.a GIRL, and healthy at that.
>
> She is, after much looking into mythology and through both Christian
> and
> Wiccan name books for something which embodies her life
> position.."Ismene"
> which means among other things."Loyal Ruler" or "Named for Peace" The
> name
> has a long history, it appears in the cycle of Greek Plays called
> Antigone.
> Ismene is also a mythological daughter of a river god noted for her
> courageous actions.
>
> For a male and one black as night.I'd be tempted to name him "Night
> Trax".for the footprints left on a dark road on a moonless night. That
> means he's got a path to leave for others to follow. Which is a good
> visual
> for a leader
>
> Just a thought for when you are having a hard time coming up with
> something
> different!
>
> Allison Moss-Fritch
>
> New Moon Alpacas
>
> Santa Clara, CA
>
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com> ]
> On
> Behalf Of Wendy Edwards
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:20 PM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> hi Flossie - great minds must think alike eh? to me, the name
> DreamWeaver
> embodies so many of my feelings around my alpacas.
> I also like the name of your farm - it sounds so peaceful
>
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> BC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Flossie Carmichael
> To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> Wendy, I just looked at your farm name. I also have a male named Dream
> Weaver. We call him Weaver.
> Flossie
> Flossie and Joe Carmichael GentleGrangeAlpacas Jamison,Pa.
> Home-215-918-0339
> Cell-267-614-9620 http://www.alpacanation.com/gentlegrange.asp
>
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.comFrom
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
> <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
> : wendy.edwards@shaw.caDate <mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate>
> <mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate> : Sun, 23
> Nov 2008 11:23:50 -0800Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name
>
> My black cria is called "Raven's Royal Flush" after his sire Wild
> Rose Royal
> Flush, a very classy male, who passed away before Raven was
> born.WendyDreamWeaver AlpacasBC----- Original Message ----- From:
> Flossie
> Carmichael To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008
> 6:28
> AMSubject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria nameI had a true black little girl,
> my
> first after 3 years of all boys, born on the same exact day. I named
> her
> Raven because of her color and if you could see her pronk, she
> practically
> flys! Black Magic? or something with Lucky in the name because you
> sure are
> lucky to have a black male. Flossie Flossie and Joe Carmichael
> GentleGrangeAlpacas Jamison,Pa. Home-215-918-0339 Cell-267-614-9620
> http://www.alpacanation.com/gentlegrange.aspTo: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
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posted by Chaddo at 7:18 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Let them eat cake.

Totally! No one wants to drive! I hate driving to AlpacaMania, and
that's only 2-3 hours away. That's why I think nationals needs to be a
travelling show, held in one of 10 (or more) regions on a rotating
basis. Dallas/Ft Worth, So Cal, Portland, Or, Reno, SLC, Kansas City,
some Great Lakes city... New England, Mid-Atlantic, Southern States.
Kind of like the Superbowl, but where the regions don't have to lobby
for it, it just moves from East to West to midsection yearly. North,
south...

Heather

On Nov 23, 2008, at 6:55 PM, LunarStruck@aol.com wrote:

> Why don't they hold it in a state that doesn't have a lot of shows but
> has a
> lot of alpaca ranches, like California??? (Don't want to drive.)
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>

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posted by Chaddo at 7:06 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

One additional element to L'Etoille's name. The software used by ARI does
not accept an apostrophe in an alpaca's name. (You can use an apostrophe in
the three letter breeder name when used as part of an alpaca's name, but not
in the alpaca's name.) I called and spoke with an ARI representative when
registering L'Etolle. The best she could recommend was to "drop" the
apostrophe in the registered name (from L'Etolle to L Etolle) so the system
would accept the name. So, while his name is L'Etolle, the ARI registered
name is L Etolle.

Best,

Denise

Denise L. Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

Santa Clara, CA

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Allison Moss-Fritch
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:13 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

Hi Folks,

I've also been working at cria naming.it was not easy. I like strong, one
word names that are memorable and imbued with positive characteristics.
After a while it is hard to come up with something fresh.

So, I bridged the language gap back to French, my first language and we have
a new little shining suri boy (our 12th in a row males) named, "L'Etoille"
which means, loosely translated, "The Star" or "The Showman"..as in "movie
star", etc.

So when, a few week later, this past Thursday we finally had a very similar
little suri girl in bright white curls.I was at a loss.but a very happy loss
after 12 boys in a row.a GIRL, and healthy at that.

She is, after much looking into mythology and through both Christian and
Wiccan name books for something which embodies her life position.."Ismene"
which means among other things."Loyal Ruler" or "Named for Peace" The name
has a long history, it appears in the cycle of Greek Plays called Antigone.
Ismene is also a mythological daughter of a river god noted for her
courageous actions.

For a male and one black as night.I'd be tempted to name him "Night
Trax".for the footprints left on a dark road on a moonless night. That
means he's got a path to leave for others to follow. Which is a good visual
for a leader

Just a thought for when you are having a hard time coming up with something
different!

Allison Moss-Fritch

New Moon Alpacas

Santa Clara, CA

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of Wendy Edwards
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 4:20 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

hi Flossie - great minds must think alike eh? to me, the name DreamWeaver
embodies so many of my feelings around my alpacas.
I also like the name of your farm - it sounds so peaceful

Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC
----- Original Message -----
From: Flossie Carmichael
To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

Wendy, I just looked at your farm name. I also have a male named Dream
Weaver. We call him Weaver.
Flossie
Flossie and Joe Carmichael GentleGrangeAlpacas Jamison,Pa. Home-215-918-0339
Cell-267-614-9620 http://www.alpacanation.com/gentlegrange.asp

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<mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.comFrom>
: wendy.edwards@shaw.caDate <mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate>
<mailto:wendy.edwards%40shaw.caDate> : Sun, 23
Nov 2008 11:23:50 -0800Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

My black cria is called "Raven's Royal Flush" after his sire Wild Rose Royal
Flush, a very classy male, who passed away before Raven was
born.WendyDreamWeaver AlpacasBC----- Original Message ----- From: Flossie
Carmichael To: alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:alpacatalk%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:28
AMSubject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] cria nameI had a true black little girl, my
first after 3 years of all boys, born on the same exact day. I named her
Raven because of her color and if you could see her pronk, she practically
flys! Black Magic? or something with Lucky in the name because you sure are
lucky to have a black male. Flossie Flossie and Joe Carmichael
GentleGrangeAlpacas Jamison,Pa. Home-215-918-0339 Cell-267-614-9620
http://www.alpacanation.com/gentlegrange.aspTo: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] cria name

haha! That's great! He really needs a name, I've been calling "Little
Boy" or "Little Prince" for 5 months now. He's my "Little Prince of
Darkness." Such a sweetie!

On Nov 23, 2008, at 6:45 PM, LunarStruck@aol.com wrote:

> Heather - what about the name "Black Friday"?
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Let them eat cake.

Why don't they hold it in a state that doesn't have a lot of shows but has a
lot of alpaca ranches, like California??? (Don't want to drive.)

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA


In a message dated 11/23/2008 6:11:33 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
rondadove333@yahoo.com writes:

How about a more central location for all, like Texas. Dallas or Fort
Worth maybe.

Ronda Dove
Rancho Paloma
Palestine, TX

--- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
"Vida Palmer" <kuskapaku@.ku>
wrote:
>
> Try driving it from South Misissippi.. Pretty much impossible!!
>
>
> Vida Palmer
> Kuska Paku Fram
> Moss Point, MS
>
>
> --- In _AlpacaTalk@yahoogroAlpacaT_ (mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com) ,
Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have some insight as to why they couldn't sell out Utah. It's
out
> of
> > the way for EVERYBODY. Nationals, held in Louisville or
Cleveland
> is
> > convenient for a large portion of the east and midwest, and
> certainly
> > those who live in Litchfield won't even have to stay in a hotel
for
> the
> > show. How convenient is that!
> >
> > Salt Lake City is not a bad drive for those in the Southwest and
> > California, but if you live anywhere else, it's a nightmare. 13
> hour
> > drive over mountain passes from Eugene. Actually from Phoenix,
it's
> an
> > 11 hour drive. Also a bit much.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 20, 2008, at 6:38 AM, libby@ wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Vida,
> > >
> > > I sure will. Was not aware of that or I obviously wouldn't
have
> posted
> > > it. I'd rather see fewer stalls per farm and more farms
> participating.
> > > However, AOBA has to pay the bills so perhaps it was lifted
> because
> > > AOBA
> > > didn't sell out at Utah? I'll have to let someone else answer.
> It's a
> > > delicate balance but if sold out, I'd like to see more farms
be
> able
> > > to
> > > participate.
> > >
> > > However, this IS one for Jess and Ian and Dave and the rest:
> What
> > > about
> > > the new policy being proposed that requires farms to qualify
> their
> > > alpacas
> > > at regional shows before they are allowed to show at AOBA????
Do
> you
> > > see
> > > this as discouraging participation? I sure do.
> > >
> > > Libby
> > >
> > > Libby Forstner
> > > Magical Farms, Inc.
> > > Litchfield Ohio
> > > (330)667-3233
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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