Hi Heather.
I applaud support of all of the amendments.and hope we have the sense to
keep them..and listen to the US Supremes about what they mean.
Love the system.overall, even with its problems, challenges, etc. It is the
best there is!
Allison Moss-Fritch
New Moon Alpacas
Santa Clara, CA
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:11 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Free Speech, again
Haha! Oops. Yes, I meant 1st amendment. Constitutional scholar I'm not.
Hey everyone! I don't ming being corrected. I do detest being told to
shut up just because someone doesn't share my opinion.
Have a great night everyone!
Heather
On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Dick McCoy wrote:
> Hello Heather,
>
> I applaud your support of the 2nd. Amendment. Albeit I hope that in
> this case you don't plan to use the 2nd. to defend the 1st.
>
> Just kidding!
>
> Dick McCoy
> Foxrun Farms
> Cato, NY
> Everybody Loves Raymond
> http://www.alpacafarms/com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Heather Zeleny
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:52 PM
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Free Speech, again
>
> So here I am, hauling out the 2nd Amendment speech again. I believe in
> freedom of speech and freedom of the press. I believe every one of us
> has the right to say something's wrong when we believe so.
>
> I believe that every one of those with differing views than mine, also
> have the right of free speech. What I will not tolerate is people
> telling anyone to stop complaining, telling those with concerns that
> they should just shut up already and go ahead and start a new breeders
> org, for example. That's a cop-out, and shows they're inflexible and
> not willing to change things for the better. In fact, I say it our
> responsibility to point out things that are wrong, for the good of the
> group, so that positive change can be made. So my delivery isn't
> popular with many people. I can live with that. I feel strongly about
> something, I get worked up, I become less eloquent than I should be.
> That doesn't make my opinion wrong or invalid.
>
> Being thankful to those who "built" the alpaca industry in the US has
> nothing to do with fawning over the richest of the rich breeders with
> herds 1000+ head, who have been in control of EVERYTHING in the past.
> There are plenty of breeders who do not have those enormous herds, who
> have also done great service to the industry in the US. Jan and Dale
> Davis come to mind. Really nice people. I shared a stall with them at
> Heart of the Valley last year. Maybe some of their magic rubbed off!
> My
> girl got 4th in her halter class at that show, but the following show
> placed 2nd for her fleece (behind an Inti-Sapa son)! Linda Berry
> Walker
> also comes to mind. She got fed up with the BS and did leave. I say we
> should not force out people who want to make things fair for all. And
> should not shout them down and call them names and characterize their
> concern as bitching or ranting. That is non-productive. And those who
> did it should be ashamed of themselves.
>
> Hopefully things are changing. We have a new board, although Ian
> Watt's
> presence makes me uneasy.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Creswell, OR
>
> 541.895.0964
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com
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