Hello list,
I agree.but not daily repeat mentions of every marketing event..as has been
the recent pattern here. Some information .short sweet concise and with
geographic area noted as well as time for upcoming seminars of general
interest.but not as the only communication ever made by this person on this
list.
Allison
Allison Moss-Fritch
New Moon Alpacas
Santa Clara, CA
From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of J Guerin
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:58 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Check off the kind of marketing YOU want! Now:
Advertising discussion
Hi Heather,
Just wanted to say I consider announcements for
seminars and how-tos acceptable advertising. It is or could be, very
helpful.
Jim Guerin
Jimmini Farm
Yelm,WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Heather Zeleny
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Check off the kind of marketing YOU want! Now:
Advertising discussion
You see, that's why I ask for input from members. So we have two
members who have spoken up that they consider announcements for
seminars and how-tos unacceptable advertising.
That you may not be interested in attending a show in VA is beside the
point. This group is comprised of members from around the planet. Not
every topic will interest everyone. Say you do want to attend a
pre-natal seminar, but you don't know where one is held. The ability to
post a spread the word about events is crucial!
I feel that there is a very clear difference between announcing a
seminar, show, or marketing advice, and those that announce products or
animals. If I'm selling something, I benefit from the income. The
buyer, I suppose, benefits in receiving goods - socks, your
hypothetical poop scooper, my hypothetical wonderful alpaca for sale or
sire for hire, blankets, sweaters... But classes and shows are
different in that ALL attendees have the same opportunity. Certainly,
those who put on the show or seminar are profiting, but so are those
who attend. They are completely different.
I definitely do not want this to be a classified ad posting board. I
want information to be shared, any information that can help our fellow
alpaca breeders.
I would really like to see more discussion on this, from more members.
Heather
On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Don Stanwyck wrote:
> Heather:
>
> If I agree with your logic, then advertising my custom made
> waste-free hay feeders, my special alpaca-specific pooper-scoopers,
> etc., would all be acceptable because everyone could benefit from
> them. Advertising transport services or other services that "anyone
> could benefit from" would also be acceptable.
>
> My two-cents worth is that you need to either allow or disallow all
> advertising. You might decide to allow "announcements" of
> AOBA-affiliate sponsored shows or some such class, but in fact a show
> in Virginia is really not something of interest to me in Washington.
> Of course, at the end of the day, if's your list and your decision.
>
> Don Stanwyck
>
> Carnation, WA
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:58:46 -0800, Heather Zeleny wrote
> > Yes, I personally feel that we can all benefit from learning how to
> > sell our alpacas and products. I think we can all benefit from Marty
> > McGee seminars learning to handle our alpacas. I think we can all
> > benefit from pre and neonatal clinics and seminars...
> >
> > I realize that those who put on these seminars and have marketing
> > guides to sell are profiting from them, but anyone who participates
> > stands also to benefit from the knowledge they gain.
> >
> > I also feel advertising shows should be allowed, as anyone who
> enters
> > shows has an opportunity to benefit in the form of ribbons and
> > exposure.
> >
> > If a majority of members disagree, please weigh in on it. This has
> been
> > my stance since I started this group 4 years ago, and I still feel
> the
> > same way about it.
> >
> > Now, ads for products for sale, animals for sale or herdsires for
> hire,
> > farm dispersals, auctions, are things I absolutely do not want to
> see
> > on this discussion group.
> >
> > In my mind there is a distinct difference.
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > On Nov 7, 2008, at 10:36 AM, suekodu wrote:
> >
> > > --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com> , Ellie Winslow
> <winslowellie@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > o 1. My ads actually get people to contact me
> > > > o 2. Buyers really show up with money
> > > > o 3. I have very happy customers
> > > > o 4. I don't have to do "stock reduction" sales
> > > > o 5. My farm makes money
> > > > o 6. I can quit my other job
> > > >
> > > > Yes--the secrets of this kind of marketing will catapult you
> into
> > > success! I'm so sure you can be successful with this information,
> > > that I'll guarantee it--in 30 days, if you don't think it works,
> > > I'll buy it back!
> > > > http://beyondthesidewalk.com
> > >
> > > There seem to be several "can't sell your alpacas ? then buy my
> > > marketing product! " posts appearing here !
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > Maidstone Kent UK
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> Don Stanwyck
> Jo's Fleece Fields (www.fleecefields.com)
> 10528 344th Ave NE
> Carnation, WA 98014
> +1-425-788-8239
>
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>
>
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