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RE: [AlpacaTalk] fleece stat averages

Hi Emaly,

We like to see over 4# annualized blankets on cria
fleeces, but at least 3#. That is for approximately
20 microns. After that, 5#+. The other thing is that I
have noticed the 2nd yr only increases a bit because
the alpacas are doing quite a bit of growing from year
1-2 and are putting less energy into fiber production,
but that is not always the case. I have a 6 yr old
female that produced a 4.5# blanket at 29 microns
(2007). 2006 she produced 3.8# blanket. She is always
nursing and pregnant and I was so pleased!

A couple of things...We do not geld any of our males,
so I can't give you info on what they produce compared
to intact animals.

The other thing we have found is that you can't always
go by microns. Unfortunately, that is what you are
going by when purchasing an alpaca, but the feeding
habits of the owner make a huge difference when they
over feed or don't feed really good quality food.

Another idea is to find a male with the type of fleece
you like and microns and have him gelded. There are
plenty of low priced intact males out there these
days.

Steph

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] fleece stat averages

That was exactly what I was looking for, thanks. I understand that many
people geld their males because their fiber isn't quite up to par for
breeding standards, but I hope I can find one that was gelded for other
reasons. Any thoughts on shearing weights? I didn't measure our fleeces
when they were shorn last year, so I don't have a good reference. What do
most people expect to get from a yearling or two-year old huacaya each year?

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

llamapyr25@earthlink.net

www.autumnhillllamas.com <http://www.autumnhillllamas.com/>

Fairland, IN

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To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] fleece stat averages

Hi Emaly,

Well, of course gelding depends on many factors like
conformation, microns, etc...but microns are probably
a large factor. Some people say that gelding keeps the
microns lower, but I have heard that running up and
down the fence stresses the males and keeps the micron
lower. It all depends on who you talk to.

We are having most of our 1 year old males in the last
few years around 17 microns and rarely over 20. For
some reason, our yearling girls are about 20 microns,
but we did have one at 17. We feed them a bit more
since they will need extra for pregnancy, which may
account for the higher micron?

We have 3 year old males at 17-20 microns and 5 year
olds at 21 microns.

Fleece mills like animals that are between 20-25
microns. It is easier on the equipment. Below 20
breaks and is hard to work with, so the finer fleece
is better for hand spinners. The most important thing
is to have the fiber sorted according to microns since
a typical blanket can vary in microns as many as 5
microns or more. Crimp style affects the processing,
so the more uniform the crimp is the easier to
process.

Grid samples are good when selecting an animal, so if
the fiber is selected from many areas of the blanket
and the microns are all about the same, then you know
your animal is uniform. This is important when
choosing breeding stock so that the offspring are also
uniform...but for a gelding, it is only important to
make that particular fleece quicker and easier to
process.

I am sorry if this sounds school marmy to you, but I
don't know what you know and don't know.

Stephanie
Stardust Alpacas
Creswell, OR
--- Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlin <mailto:llamapyr25%40earthlink.net>
k.net> wrote:

> I am on the search for a new fiber alpaca, and want
> to make sure that I'm
> getting the best fleeced animal that I can find.
> What would you estimate to
> be averages for a fleece shorn at 1 year old, 2
> years old, & 3 years old?
> What about microns at each year? Even rough
> estimates would be greatly
> appreciated- I don't know much about the particulars
> of alpaca fleece! For
> reference, this would be for a gelded white huacaya
> male (I know color can
> make a difference in microns). Thanks for any
> information you can share.
>
>
>
> Emaly Leak
>
> Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
>
> llamapyr25@earthlin <mailto:llamapyr25%40earthlink.net> k.net
>
> www.autumnhillllamas.com
> <http://www.autumnhi <http://www.autumnhillllamas.com/> llllamas.com/>
>
> Fairland, IN
>
> Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber
> Items
>
> Female & Male Llamas For Sale
>
> Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion
> Male
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] fleece stat averages

Hi Emaly,

Well, of course gelding depends on many factors like
conformation, microns, etc...but microns are probably
a large factor. Some people say that gelding keeps the
microns lower, but I have heard that running up and
down the fence stresses the males and keeps the micron
lower. It all depends on who you talk to.

We are having most of our 1 year old males in the last
few years around 17 microns and rarely over 20. For
some reason, our yearling girls are about 20 microns,
but we did have one at 17. We feed them a bit more
since they will need extra for pregnancy, which may
account for the higher micron?

We have 3 year old males at 17-20 microns and 5 year
olds at 21 microns.

Fleece mills like animals that are between 20-25
microns. It is easier on the equipment. Below 20
breaks and is hard to work with, so the finer fleece
is better for hand spinners. The most important thing
is to have the fiber sorted according to microns since
a typical blanket can vary in microns as many as 5
microns or more. Crimp style affects the processing,
so the more uniform the crimp is the easier to
process.

Grid samples are good when selecting an animal, so if
the fiber is selected from many areas of the blanket
and the microns are all about the same, then you know
your animal is uniform. This is important when
choosing breeding stock so that the offspring are also
uniform...but for a gelding, it is only important to
make that particular fleece quicker and easier to
process.

I am sorry if this sounds school marmy to you, but I
don't know what you know and don't know.

Stephanie
Stardust Alpacas
Creswell, OR
--- Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I am on the search for a new fiber alpaca, and want
> to make sure that I'm
> getting the best fleeced animal that I can find.
> What would you estimate to
> be averages for a fleece shorn at 1 year old, 2
> years old, & 3 years old?
> What about microns at each year? Even rough
> estimates would be greatly
> appreciated- I don't know much about the particulars
> of alpaca fleece! For
> reference, this would be for a gelded white huacaya
> male (I know color can
> make a difference in microns). Thanks for any
> information you can share.
>
>
>
> Emaly Leak
>
> Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
>
> llamapyr25@earthlink.net
>
> www.autumnhillllamas.com
> <http://www.autumnhillllamas.com/>
>
> Fairland, IN
>
> Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber
> Items
>
> Female & Male Llamas For Sale
>
> Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion
> Male
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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[AlpacaTalk] fleece stat averages

I am on the search for a new fiber alpaca, and want to make sure that I'm
getting the best fleeced animal that I can find. What would you estimate to
be averages for a fleece shorn at 1 year old, 2 years old, & 3 years old?
What about microns at each year? Even rough estimates would be greatly
appreciated- I don't know much about the particulars of alpaca fleece! For
reference, this would be for a gelded white huacaya male (I know color can
make a difference in microns). Thanks for any information you can share.

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

llamapyr25@earthlink.net

www.autumnhillllamas.com <http://www.autumnhillllamas.com/>

Fairland, IN

Llamas, Alpacas, German Angora Rabbits, and Fiber Items

Female & Male Llamas For Sale

Outside Breedings available to ALSA Halter Champion Male

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advertising posts

WHAT? No fines?! What kind of group moderator are you??? ;)

~Pamela Hunter

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Heather Zeleny <
alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Please, let's keep this group limited to alpaca discussion, rather than
> an alpaca sales list. We have plenty of lists set up for that purpose
> already. I'm not about to impose fines fro people who do accidentally
> posts sales ads here, but please remove them if you do post a sales ad
> on this group.
>
> Thanks,
> Heather
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>
>

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[AlpacaTalk] Advertising posts

Hi everyone,
Please, let's keep this group limited to alpaca discussion, rather than
an alpaca sales list. We have plenty of lists set up for that purpose
already. I'm not about to impose fines fro people who do accidentally
posts sales ads here, but please remove them if you do post a sales ad
on this group.

Thanks,
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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Buying Fiber

Can you post your pricing on what you are buying?

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[AlpacaTalk] Female suri bred to Full Accoyo $12,000

Yeah, Yeah, I know, you're tired of these emails advertising great deals, but if you love suris, this is one to pay attention to. A need to construct new space for hay storage and farming equipment is generating this lowered price, and we will even take an additional 5% off if you pay cash. We are happy to offer financing, as well as free transportation within 250 miles. If you aren't quite ready to have her come to your farm, we will board and birth her for you, by giving you 120 days free agisting!

Here is an opportunity to add some less common Accoyo genetics to your foundation herd.
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Light Fawn Female Suri
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Born 6 June, 2005
Dam: HHSF Tasha (ARI # 172895)
Sire: Woodsedge Ticket To Ride (Baron son) (ARI# 813171)
Service Sire: NGG Antonius Stradivarius (ARI# 820704)
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Mildred is due in June to give birth to what promises to be an outstanding cria sired by Stradivarius a son of PPeruvian Ganador and PPPeruvian Gardenia. Mildred is a very lustrous, well conformed dam out of one of the steadfast dams of our herd, HHSF Tasha, who has never experienced a problem with conceiving, birthing, or lactation. Tasha's crias always place at the top of their classes whenever we compete with them in shows such as Alpacafest, the Buckeye, Kentucky Classic, and the Nationals. Ticket to Ride, Mildred's sire, was a champion at the AOBA Nationals, so you can tell she comes from great stock.

After both shearings, she has remained very lustrous and relocks well, which is the true test of quality in a suri. You can see pictures on our website at www.bluebirdhills.com

Thanks for taking a look, and we look forward to talking to you about Mildred!

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