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Re: [AlpacaTalk] sugar beets

The farm where we agist has used it with lean girls who need extra weight. The beets are dessicated so we mix with warm water and also use some whole oats (like for people's porridge) as well as a bit of rolled corn and some pellets. This mixture is very palatable and keeps the girls from getting too lean while their crias nurse. It is easy to mix up a batch and let it sit for a few minutes to absorb the water.

Allison Moss-Fritch
New Moon Alpacas
Santa Clara, CA 95051

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Wendy Edwards <wendy.edwards@shaw.ca>
hi - does anyone use sugar beets as a feed supplement for their alpacas / llamas?

I have been reading about farms that use it (for alpacas) in the UK and it reminded me of when i used to feed sugar beets to my horses many years ago. They loved it and it made a nice warm feed during the cold wet weather.

It would be good to hear from anyone who uses or has used sugar beets - or if anyone knows of a reason NOT to use it as an alpaca feed supplement.

Thanks,
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
Port Alberni BC

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[AlpacaTalk] Romanik's vs. AOBA

Hello All,

We've received several inquiries as to the status of our lawsuit with AOBA
that we filed over a year ago.

Please know that we, to the best of our knowledge, are not involved in any
explanation as to why AOBA has not communicated with the membership on this
issue. Sorry, but questions regarding AOBA, need to be directed to AOBA.

We don't know why there doesn't seem to be any discussion of the
Lawsuit in Board meeting minutes since about September 2006, or why
Nothing has been posted to AOBA's website under "litigation" since
October 2006;

We don't know the status of AOBA's Cross-Complaint against the
Individual Directors or anything relating to the Individual
Directors Indemnification Agreements with AOBA dated September 2006;

We don't know how much money AOBA has spent on this lawsuit and we
don't now why projected legal/lawsuit expenses for this case were
not disclosed in the 2007 AOBA Budget as discussed in the bylaws.

We don't know if this lawsuit has any effect on the current
discussion involving AOBA merging or dissolving to become a
Tennessee corporation.

On 8/14/06 we filed a Complaint in the Colorado Courts for the wrongful
termination of our AOBA membership.

The 6/7/06 Special Meeting of the AOBA Board to consider our
termination, the AOBA Board passed the following motion, "MOTION:
AMY MOTIONS TO REVOKE AND TERMINATE THE AOBA MEMBERSHIP STATUS OF
FLOYD ROMANIK, ANA ROMANIK AND INDIAN SUMMER ALPACAS, AND ANY FARM,
RANCH OR ANY ENTITY WITH WHICH THEY ARE OR MAY BECOME ASSOCIATED."

The reason AOBA gave for our termination was, "THE GROUNDS FOR THE
PROPOSED REVOCATION IS THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE
ASSOCIATION, DUE TO, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, YOUR PAST AND CONTINUING
DISRUPTIVE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS HOSTILE TO AOBA, ITS
BOARD AND BOARD MEMBERS, ITS VOLUNTEERS, ITS EMPLOYEES AND ITS
CONSULTANTS."

There are currently two Motions for Summary Judgment before the court. One
is from AOBA, one is from us. One issue to the Summary Judgment is the
question of whether or not AOBA Bylaw 2.5 was legally approved and added by
the membership in accordance with AOBA bylaws back in 1999. AOBA says the
membership DID approve the 1999 bylaw amendments appropriately and we say
they did not. This is a new position for AOBA and contradicts AOBA's
Petition for Judicial Relief from a couple of years ago.

If the court denies both of these Motions, the case is set for a 7-day trial
starting 11/13/07. The filings on the case are public record under the
District Court, County of Denver, Colorado - Case Number: 2006-CV-9010.
There could be as many as 40 or so court filings to date.

Sincerely,
Floyd and Ana Romanik
Indian Summer Alpacas
Chepachet, Rhode Island
Phone: (401) 568-7759

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] sugar beets


I've tried it a couple times but my girls don't like it.  Good thing I have horses - they love it :)

Heidi

Heidi Christensen
WingNut Farm Alpacas
Graham WA
(253) 846-2168 or (253) 592-0200
www.wingnut-alpacas.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] sugar beets

Many people do use shredded beet pulp as a supplement, but we don't
because it's a sugar supplement, and I've read many people say that
they have alpacas who are allergic to beet pulp, or don't tolerate it
for some reason. When we have animals that need more calories for
weight gain or whatever, we use rice bran and flax seed, up to 1/4 cup
per day of each, in addition to their free choice hay and regular
alpaca feed supplement.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
West Wind Alpacas
Eugene, OR

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
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On Oct 20, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Wendy Edwards wrote:

> hi - does anyone use sugar beets as a feed supplement for their
> alpacas / llamas?
>
> I have been reading about farms that use it (for alpacas) in the UK
> and it reminded me of when i used to feed sugar beets to my horses
> many years ago. They loved it and it made a nice warm feed during the
> cold wet weather.
>
> It would be good to hear from anyone who uses or has used sugar beets
> - or if anyone knows of a reason NOT to use it as an alpaca feed
> supplement.
>
> Thanks,
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> Port Alberni BC
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] sugar beets

Many people do use shredded beet pulp as a supplement, but we don't
because it's a sugar supplement, and I've read many people say that
they have alpacas who are allergic to beet pulp, or don't tolerate it
for some reason. When we have animals that need more calories for
weight gain or whatever, we use rice bran and flax seed, up to 1/4 cup
per day of each, in addition to their free choice hay and regular
alpaca feed supplement.

Heather

Heather Zeleny
West Wind Alpacas
Eugene, OR

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
Home of Avatar's West Wind Scirocco, El Bello's Padré, Pluro grandson
Sienna Illusion, and true black full Bolivian Cosby of Chelsea Farms!
http://www.westwindalpacas.com/
http://www.alpacanation.com/westwind.asp
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join

On Oct 20, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Wendy Edwards wrote:

> hi - does anyone use sugar beets as a feed supplement for their
> alpacas / llamas?
>
> I have been reading about farms that use it (for alpacas) in the UK
> and it reminded me of when i used to feed sugar beets to my horses
> many years ago. They loved it and it made a nice warm feed during the
> cold wet weather.
>
> It would be good to hear from anyone who uses or has used sugar beets
> - or if anyone knows of a reason NOT to use it as an alpaca feed
> supplement.
>
> Thanks,
> Wendy
> DreamWeaver Alpacas
> Port Alberni BC
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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[AlpacaTalk] sugar beets

hi - does anyone use sugar beets as a feed supplement for their alpacas / llamas?

I have been reading about farms that use it (for alpacas) in the UK and it reminded me of when i used to feed sugar beets to my horses many years ago. They loved it and it made a nice warm feed during the cold wet weather.

It would be good to hear from anyone who uses or has used sugar beets - or if anyone knows of a reason NOT to use it as an alpaca feed supplement.

Thanks,
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
Port Alberni BC

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