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RE: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

Have you actually used it to treat a diagnosed case of lice, and did it
work? Has anyone else used it? I like the idea of using something that is
not toxic, as I have 2 bred females and one nursing. Emaly

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From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Stardust Alpacas
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:14 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

Hi Gary,

We have this stuff called Citricidal (Nutirbiotic Co.) that is highly
concentrated Grapefruit Seed Extract. GSE is anti-parasitic, anti-fungal,
anti-bacterial, anti-everything... You will need to check out the website
and see what the dilutions are for your usage. By the way, using a different
brand will give different results depending on quality and strength.

We put it in a pump sprayer and spray the living quarters as well as around
the poop piles and anywhere they walk regularly.

It is amazing stuff. http://www.nutritea
<http://www.nutriteam.com/index2.html> m.com/index2.html

Here is a an article on using GSE on alpacas in Peru. That is how I
discovered it.

GSE used for Alpacas
This test was conducted by Dr. Guillermo Calderon, Associate Professor
of Immunology at the University of San Marcos in Lima, Peru.

Five hundred and sixty baby alpacas ranging in age from 2 - 6 weeks
were divided into five different groups, two receiving placebos, two
receiving
alternative medications, and one group receiving 400 ppm doses of grapefruit
extract,
1 dose daily for three days.

Dr. Fernando Scheelje of Interfab, S.A., reports,
"For many years decreases in alpaca have been difficult to
cope with. Enterotoxemia, colibacilosis, and enteritis are the major
infectious
problem in baby alpacas. Vaccines and antibiotic treatment have proven
to have different and non-stable results."
The tests conducted by Dr. Calderon indicate that Grapefruit extract "...at
400ppm given orally, out-performed competitive drugs and reduced the
average death rate from over 50% to less than 2%."

In conclusion, Dr. Scheelje wrote that Grapefruit extract "gave a promising
solution for a traditional problem in two ways: (A.) Preventative, and (B.)
Curative."

Good luck!

Stephanie

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Gary Simpson <info1@tri-valleyalp
<mailto:info1%40tri-valleyalpacas.com> acas.com> wrote:
From: Gary Simpson <info1@tri-valleyalp
<mailto:info1%40tri-valleyalpacas.com> acas.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro <mailto:AlpacaTalk%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:16 AM

Steph:

What dilution ratio do you use?

Also, does this have any other benefits to kill any other type

of creature or bacteria?

Gary

----- Original Message -----

From: Stardust Alpacas

To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:02 PM

Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

By the way, we only treat the animals affected, not the entire herd. I don't
think we have had lice for years. Keeping the area they lay in clean is
really important. Picking up loose hay will keep those sucking parasites at
bay. We spray the stalls down with a dilution of grapefruit seed extract as
well as any rolling areas.

Steph

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:58 AM

It is my opinion that you should not be less concerned about your animals as
you are with yourself. Washing your hands after you touch them is
sufficient, but with the dirt on them, we have to anyway.

I read recently that applying coconut oil to hair that has lice will kill
and release the knits. It is a much more eco friendly way to treat for those
parasites.

Stephanie

Stardust Alpacas

Creswell, OR 97426

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@ earthlin k.net> wrote:

From: Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@ earthlin k.net>

Subject: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

To: "Alpaca Talk Yahoo Group" <alpacatalk@ yahoogro ups.com>

Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:33 AM

I just finished treating my herd for lice with a dust permethrin product.
There were many warnings and precautions on the label, so we were very
careful not to come in contact with the chemical dust as we applied it to
the animals. My question is, how long should I wait before handling the
animals and touching the treated areas? Thanks, Emaly

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

Female Llama and Gelding Alpacas For Sale

Outside Breedings Available to ALSA Halter Champion Herdsire

Llamas, Alpacas, & German Angora Rabbits

Pleasant View, IN

llamapyr25@earthlin k.net

www.autumnhillllama s.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

Hi Gary,

We have this stuff called Citricidal (Nutirbiotic Co.) that is highly concentrated Grapefruit Seed Extract. GSE is anti-parasitic, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-everything... You will need to check out the website and see what the dilutions are for your usage. By the way, using a different brand will give different results depending on quality and strength.

We put it in a pump sprayer and spray the living quarters as well as around the poop piles and anywhere they walk regularly.

It is amazing stuff.     http://www.nutriteam.com/index2.html

Here is a an article on using GSE on alpacas in Peru. That is how I discovered it.

GSE used for Alpacas
This test was conducted by Dr. Guillermo Calderon, Associate Professor
of Immunology at the University of San Marcos in Lima, Peru.

Five hundred and sixty baby alpacas ranging in age from 2 - 6 weeks
were divided into five different groups, two receiving placebos, two receiving
alternative medications, and one group receiving 400 ppm doses of grapefruit extract,
1 dose daily for three days.

Dr. Fernando Scheelje of Interfab, S.A., reports,
"For many years decreases in alpaca have been difficult to
cope with. Enterotoxemia, colibacilosis, and enteritis are the major infectious
problem in baby alpacas. Vaccines and antibiotic treatment have proven
to have different and non-stable results."
The tests conducted by Dr. Calderon indicate that Grapefruit extract "...at
400ppm given orally, out-performed competitive drugs and reduced the
average death rate from over 50% to less than 2%."

In conclusion, Dr. Scheelje wrote that Grapefruit extract "gave a promising
solution for a traditional problem in two ways: (A.) Preventative, and (B.)
Curative." 

Good luck!

Stephanie

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Gary Simpson <info1@tri-valleyalpacas.com> wrote:
From: Gary Simpson <info1@tri-valleyalpacas.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:16 AM

Steph:

What dilution ratio do you use?

Also, does this have any other benefits to kill any other type

of creature or bacteria?

Gary

----- Original Message -----

From: Stardust Alpacas

To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com

Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:02 PM

Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

By the way, we only treat the animals affected, not the entire herd. I don't think we have had lice for years. Keeping the area they lay in clean is really important. Picking up loose hay will keep those sucking parasites at bay. We spray the stalls down with a dilution of grapefruit seed extract as well as any rolling areas.

Steph

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com

Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:58 AM

It is my opinion that you should not be less concerned about your animals as you are with yourself. Washing your hands after you touch them is sufficient, but with the dirt on them, we have to anyway.

I read recently that applying coconut oil to hair that has lice will kill and release the knits. It is a much more eco friendly way to treat for those parasites.

Stephanie

Stardust Alpacas

Creswell, OR 97426

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@ earthlin k.net> wrote:

From: Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@ earthlin k.net>

Subject: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

To: "Alpaca Talk Yahoo Group" <alpacatalk@ yahoogro ups.com>

Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:33 AM

I just finished treating my herd for lice with a dust permethrin product. There were many warnings and precautions on the label, so we were very careful not to come in contact with the chemical dust as we applied it to the animals. My question is, how long should I wait before handling the animals and touching the treated areas? Thanks, Emaly

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

Female Llama and Gelding Alpacas For Sale

Outside Breedings Available to ALSA Halter Champion Herdsire

Llamas, Alpacas, & German Angora Rabbits

Pleasant View, IN

llamapyr25@earthlin k.net

www.autumnhillllama s.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

Steph:
What dilution ratio do you use?
Also, does this have any other benefits to kill any other type
of creature or bacteria?
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Stardust Alpacas
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

By the way, we only treat the animals affected, not the entire herd. I don't think we have had lice for years. Keeping the area they lay in clean is really important. Picking up loose hay will keep those sucking parasites at bay. We spray the stalls down with a dilution of grapefruit seed extract as well as any rolling areas.

Steph

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:58 AM

It is my opinion that you should not be less concerned about your animals as you are with yourself. Washing your hands after you touch them is sufficient, but with the dirt on them, we have to anyway.

I read recently that applying coconut oil to hair that has lice will kill and release the knits. It is a much more eco friendly way to treat for those parasites.

Stephanie

Stardust Alpacas

Creswell, OR 97426

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlin k.net> wrote:

From: Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlin k.net>

Subject: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

To: "Alpaca Talk Yahoo Group" <alpacatalk@yahoogro ups.com>

Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:33 AM

I just finished treating my herd for lice with a dust permethrin product. There were many warnings and precautions on the label, so we were very careful not to come in contact with the chemical dust as we applied it to the animals. My question is, how long should I wait before handling the animals and touching the treated areas? Thanks, Emaly

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

Female Llama and Gelding Alpacas For Sale

Outside Breedings Available to ALSA Halter Champion Herdsire

Llamas, Alpacas, & German Angora Rabbits

Pleasant View, IN

llamapyr25@earthlin k.net

www.autumnhillllama s.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

By the way, we only treat the animals affected, not the entire herd. I don't think we have had lice for years. Keeping the area they lay in clean is really important. Picking up loose hay will keep those sucking parasites at bay. We spray the stalls down with a dilution of grapefruit seed extract as well as any rolling areas.

Steph

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Stardust Alpacas <stardustalpacas@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:58 AM

It is my opinion that you should not be less concerned about your animals as you are with yourself. Washing your hands after you touch them is sufficient, but with the dirt on them, we have to anyway.

I read recently that applying coconut oil to hair that has lice will kill and release the knits. It is a much more eco friendly way to treat for those parasites.

Stephanie

Stardust Alpacas

Creswell, OR 97426

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlin k.net> wrote:

From: Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlin k.net>

Subject: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

To: "Alpaca Talk Yahoo Group" <alpacatalk@yahoogro ups.com>

Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:33 AM

I just finished treating my herd for lice with a dust permethrin product. There were many warnings and precautions on the label, so we were very careful not to come in contact with the chemical dust as we applied it to the animals. My question is, how long should I wait before handling the animals and touching the treated areas? Thanks, Emaly

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

Female Llama and Gelding Alpacas For Sale

Outside Breedings Available to ALSA Halter Champion Herdsire

Llamas, Alpacas, & German Angora Rabbits

Pleasant View, IN

llamapyr25@earthlin k.net

www.autumnhillllama s.com















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Re: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

It is my opinion that you should not be less concerned about your animals as you are with yourself. Washing your hands after you touch them is sufficient, but with the dirt on them, we have to anyway.

I read recently that applying coconut oil to hair that has lice will kill and release the knits.  It is a much more eco friendly way to treat for those parasites.

Stephanie

Stardust Alpacas
Creswell, OR 97426

--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Emaly Leak <llamapyr25@earthlink.net>
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment
To: "Alpaca Talk Yahoo Group" <alpacatalk@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 5:33 AM

I just finished treating my herd for lice with a dust permethrin product. There were many warnings and precautions on the label, so we were very careful not to come in contact with the chemical dust as we applied it to the animals. My question is, how long should I wait before handling the animals and touching the treated areas? Thanks, Emaly

Emaly Leak

Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber

Female Llama and Gelding Alpacas For Sale

Outside Breedings Available to ALSA Halter Champion Herdsire

Llamas, Alpacas, & German Angora Rabbits

Pleasant View, IN

llamapyr25@earthlin k.net

www.autumnhillllama s.com











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[AlpacaTalk] dust lice treatment

I just finished treating my herd for lice with a dust permethrin product. There were many warnings and precautions on the label, so we were very careful not to come in contact with the chemical dust as we applied it to the animals. My question is, how long should I wait before handling the animals and touching the treated areas? Thanks, Emaly

Emaly Leak
Autumn Hill Llamas & Fiber
Female Llama and Gelding Alpacas For Sale
Outside Breedings Available to ALSA Halter Champion Herdsire
Llamas, Alpacas, & German Angora Rabbits
Pleasant View, IN
llamapyr25@earthlink.net
www.autumnhillllamas.com

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