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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Recent AOBA activities

 

In a message dated 3/12/2010 12:33:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pam@heartofdreamsalpacas.biz writes:
Last year I actually caught myself saying I was running out of fiber
Way to go, Pam!  Wish we were all in that same position and not insulating our houses with the stuff.  LOL
 
Susan Olson
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: new cria

 

Yes, I'd love to be able to attach a photo like Tom did - how do you do that, Heather?
 
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

Wow, Tom, you are HANDY!  I want one!
 
Susan Olson
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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

That is very innovative, Tom!  Btw, I think I will be meeting Kim Rassi at your farm next month.  She is bringing a Suri cria down for us when she comes to your farm.

Would you mind e-mailing me privately with the address.  I saw your website but couldn’t find an address.  I will be coming from the Lake Anna area.  Thanks!

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

Laura0554@hughes.net

 

 


From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 5:54 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac [3 Attachments]

 

 

This is a pasture vac that I built. It works great and we can take the manure right out to the fields and spread it. The good thing is I can pull it with an old riding mower. It even works great in cold wet weather.

 

Thomas & Gwen Allard

Sunset View Alpacas

Richmond, VA

 

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: [Alpacasite] Will it really help you?

 

BTW, it was stated on this or one of the other alpaca discussion groups that this form is the same as what was developed last year.  I was on the NC last year and I can assure you this form was not developed or used last year.
 
Elden Harms
Token Creek Alpacas
Sun Prairie WI



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Sent: Fri, Mar 12, 2010 8:22 pm
Subject: RE: [Alpacasite] Will it really help you?

 Eldon,     I agree with you.  I would also point out that this disclosure would prevent any  alpaca veterinarian from running for the board because of the conflict between  client confidentiality and this disclosure form.     I recall a few days ago someone asked Lona about the size of Dave Belt's herd as  if owning a larger herd made one more qualified than the owner of a smaller  herd.  It's not the size of the herd, but the size of the heart that counts!   there are many small breeders who have made enormous contributions to the  industry (and many of the large breeders, too).  I would be more interested in  what leadership experience a person has and what other skills he or she may  bring to the board, any areas of expertise that would benefit AOBA, etc. as well  as the work ethic.      And as far as talking to people about alpacas, isn't the definaiton of an alpaca  owner someone who talks about alpacas to anyone who will listen?     Smiles,     Dr. Ruthanne     PS I'm not getting all the posts for some reason, so in case Lona hasn't  answered this already in a post I missed - Dave Belt, his wife Suzy and their  children were involved in the alpaca business long before Dave became involved  with the ALpacas Magazine.  They had a small but very lovely breeding herd in  Colorado for quite a few years.  during that time Dave took the helm of a  floundering Alpacas Magazine and turned it into the award winning beautiful  publication that it is today.  Along the way it became necessary for them to  move to Canada to care for several elderly relatives (OK it wasn't NECESSARY,  but it was the right thing to do)  This meant they had to sell their breeding  herd and kept only a few beloved geldings who made the move to Canada with them.   Dave has done a lot of volunteer work in the alpaca world,  but more often has  been behind the scenes doing what needs to done and not blowing his own horn.        Ruthanne McCaslin, DVM   www.blackalpaca.com Promised Land Farm 11345 Thwing Rd. Chardon, OH 44024 440-285-9255 216-402-5386 Peruvian Perfection in Black and White - and some Amazing Greys!!         To: Alpacasite@yahoogroups.com; alpacapolitics@yahoogroups.com;  AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com From: tcalpacas@aol.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:29:24 -0500 Subject: [Alpacasite] Will it really help you?         This has to be short, I have to finish getting ready to talk with some vet  students tomorrow about the wonderful alpacas we all love and devote our time  to.  I just took a min to look at a blank AOBA BOD candidate disclosure form. While  it really help any of you to decide who to vote for by knowing which candidates:  gave away or sold an alpaca for greater than $100 and to who?  gave or sold and alpaca worth $5000?  spoke to anyone about alpacas for compensation or not?  if anyone has purchased an alpaca for $100 or more and who from?  How will any of this information help you decide who to vote for? Perhaps I'm  missing something, if so, someone enlighten me. If I were a candidate I would  have to disclose all of my shearing clients (for pay or not) and anyone that I  helped with herd management on a no cost basis? Why is any of that of anyone's  business except mine or my clients?  Unfortunately this disclosure form is incredibly bias against at least one  candidate, actually it's more than unfortunate. This election will go down as  yet another low point for our association.  Elden Harms Token Creek Alpacas Sun Prairie  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]                             [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]    ------------------------------------  Opinions and postings on this list are the sole responsibility of the person  posting the message. The accuracy and content of each message in no way reflect  the opinions of the moderators or Yahoo. TO CHANGE OPTIONS (Daily Digest, no email) visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alpacasite/join  Moderators: Jan Davis - Derwydd Alpacas & Lisa Olsen - Alpaca Atlantic of  Tennessee LLC You may email them all at alpacasite-owner@yahoogroups.com      Save on Identity theft protection - http://www.lifelock.com/default.aspx?promocode=alpacas Yahoo! Groups Links  <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alpacasite/  <*> Your email settings:     Individual Email | Traditional  <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alpacasite/join     (Yahoo! ID required)  <*> To change settings via email:     Alpacasite-digest@yahoogroups.com      Alpacasite-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com  <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     Alpacasite-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com  <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/  

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: [alpacapolitics] Will it really help you?

 

That is the most rediculous disclosure form I have ever heard of. It amazes me anyone has consented to answer it. Anyone on the board or the NC care to disclose who created that form, and what was trying to be accomplished? Was this the same form used last year? If is was I am very surprised Libby and others consented to answer it, and if it wasn't who changed it? I think many of the hundreds of emails I have recieved in the last week might not have been sent and even discussed if we took the trouble to look at this form. What a joke. If you were trying to somehow avoid candidates with a conflict of interest, that is a moot point because everyone on that board if they own an alpaca has potential conflicts of interest. That is why in large corporations there is a BOD but the shareholders vote on important issues the BOD do not make those decisions on there own. Maybe this organization should adopt the same type of protocol, which maybe would than eliminate the distrust many have for the BOD as they tend to walk to the beat of their own special drummer when it suits them. One such issue would be where the Nationals are held each year.
 
Susan Rempe
Bloomfield NM
 
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Subject: [alpacapolitics] Will it really help you?

 


This has to be short, I have to finish getting ready to talk with some vet students tomorrow about the wonderful alpacas we all love and devote our time to.

I just took a min to look at a blank AOBA BOD candidate disclosure form. While it really help any of you to decide who to vote for by knowing which candidates:

gave away or sold an alpaca for greater than $100 and to who?

gave or sold and alpaca worth $5000?

spoke to anyone about alpacas for compensation or not?

if anyone has purchased an alpaca for $100 or more and who from?

How will any of this information help you decide who to vote for? Perhaps I'm missing something, if so, someone enlighten me. If I were a candidate I would have to disclose all of my shearing clients (for pay or not) and anyone that I helped with herd management on a no cost basis? Why is any of that of anyone's business except mine or my clients?

Unfortunately this disclosure form is incredibly bias against at least one candidate, actually it's more than unfortunate. This election will go down as yet another low point for our association.

Elden Harms
Token Creek Alpacas
Sun Prairie

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

Since it's now Friday, tell us more about your pasture vac! Not everyone has a tractor with a PTO, I wish we did. And I wish we had a loader to go with that tractor!



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Lona Nelsen Frank wrote:


From the comments made, it sounds like a manure vacuum that works off a tractor PTO would be better than the engine mounted units.

 

Lona Nelsen Frank

ALPACAS of Tualatin Valley, llc     Since 1988

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From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Heather Zeleny
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:25 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

 

I have been planning to build one from scratch for years now. We have an AgriFab wich works great in the summer, but in the wet season, the feed tube clogs almost immediately. Poor design on the thing. Another pasture vac with the same design (not greystone) is sold by various alpaca breeders, but it costs more than the AgriFab and obviously doesn't woirk any better because of that design.

 

The Greystone, now, is sold with a 4 stroke engine, and is supposed to be much more reliable and, um, not burn out within a month. :) But, they are way too expensive for my taste. Think how many hours you can have of poop scooping if you pay laborers with that money!

 

 

Heather

 

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

 

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

 

On Mar 11, 2010, at 12:15 PM, J Guerin wrote:



 

I have read a not so flattering review in my Farm Show magazine, ' Best and Worst Buys ' that said Graystone ( sp ) at least the one they bought, was no good.  The company wouldn't stand behind it.

 

I bought a used manure vac, not the GS and rebuilt it, making it more user friendly.  Got to use it for almost a month, when the impeller, mounted directly to the engine, broke the shaft off just out side the engine.  Bought a new engine and had to reengineer the mounting.

 

I would suggest finding a self contained leaf vac, the trailer mounted kind.  No reason it wouldn't work just as well, and possibly cheaper.

 

I am thinking about building another, just for the fun of it, from scratch!!  :)

 

I will dig up some before and after pics of the one I have.

 

Jim Guerin

Jimmini Farm

Yelm, WA

 

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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

 

 

I'm sure this has been asked before but I would like to know which pasture vac (manufacturer) had the best product. or which is the worst.

 

Thank You,

Rob
 

RobAsia Alpaca Ranch LLC
Rob & Joanna Stephens
Manitowoc, WIsconsin

 

 



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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

I'm glad it works for you! Our AgriFab might be able to be pulled behind the riding mower, we haven't really tried because we live on a hill and we use the ATV with the off-road tires to pull it.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 12, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Tom wrote:

[Attachment(s) from Tom included below]

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This is a pasture vac that I built. It works great and we can take the manure right out to the fields and spread it. The good thing is I can pull it with an old riding mower. It even works great in cold wet weather.

 

Thomas & Gwen Allard

Sunset View Alpacas

Richmond, VA

 



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[AlpacaTalk] Will it really help you?

 

This has to be short, I have to finish getting ready to talk with some vet students tomorrow about the wonderful alpacas we all love and devote our time to.
 
I just took a min to look at a blank AOBA BOD candidate disclosure form.  While it really help any of you to decide who to vote for by knowing which candidates:
 
gave away or sold an alpaca for greater than $100 and to who?
 
gave or sold and alpaca worth $5000?
 
spoke to anyone about alpacas for compensation or not?
 
if anyone has purchased an alpaca for $100 or more and who from?
 
How will any of this information help you decide who to vote for?  Perhaps I'm missing something, if so, someone enlighten me.  If I were a candidate I would have to disclose all of my shearing clients (for pay or not) and anyone that I helped with herd management on a no cost basis?  Why is any of that of anyone's business except mine or my clients?
 
 
Unfortunately this disclosure form is incredibly bias against at least one candidate, actually it's more than unfortunate.  This election will go down as yet another low point for our association.
 
Elden Harms
Token Creek Alpacas
Sun Prairie
 


 

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[AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac [3 Attachments]

 
[Attachment(s) from Tom included below]

This is a pasture vac that I built. It works great and we can take the manure right out to the fields and spread it. The good thing is I can pull it with an old riding mower. It even works great in cold wet weather.

 

Thomas & Gwen Allard

Sunset View Alpacas

Richmond, VA

 

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Pasture Vac

 

That is a similar design to the AgriFab. That feed tube that blows the manure into the trailer is the problem in the wet season. 


We love it in the summer, though!

Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
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Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 12, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Tom wrote:

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