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Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Fetal Heart Tones

 

I just can't believe a crias heart beat could be heard.We see it on ultrasound often.Gestation time is so variable it's hard to say due or over due.You should be able to see the cria move. If the cria is in position you can ussually see it laying along the left side & see it move.You can gentle bump the cria by pushing back & forth against the belly.The cria will kick or move back against you.They come when they are ready,no matter ifvthey seem to be showing allthe signs for a week or no signs at all.It is a waiting game.I am lucky & can check often during birting season so I see almost all being born.I check every 2 hours.. Good luck let us know when she has it. Tina Travis Hunt  Elkhorn Alpacas  Warrenton,MO 63383     #636-459-8930  



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On Jan 26, 2011 9:46 PM, Gary <info1@tri-valleyalpacas.com> wrote:

 

Has anybody had any luck obtaining fetal heart tones with a stethoscope? If so, at what gestational age? I'm guessing it's difficult with the awesome staple and density all this cold is providing! It's killin' me waitin' for Sebastian's cria.

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[AlpacaTalk] Fetal Heart Tones

 

Has anybody had any luck obtaining fetal heart tones with a stethoscope? If so, at what gestational age? I'm guessing it's difficult with the awesome staple and density all this cold is providing! It's killin' me waitin' for Sebastian's cria.

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: alfalfa hay [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from Purplpig included below]

Thanks for the response.

I will pick up some timothy/orchard grass and mix it in. Just to be
safe.
They are so loving the alfalfa though. One will actually get down and
roll in it, then sit on it so the others
cannot eat his pile!!

Lysa Grant
> Pocopaca in the Poconos
> Jim Thorpe, PA

On Jan 26, 2011, at 11:31 AM, danimac2711 wrote:

> Some Breeders in Oz and New Zealand feed 100% alfalfa (called
> lucerne down there). Alfalfa *tends* to be higher in protein (and
> too much protein appears to increase micron count), but that doesn't
> mean that it shouldn't be a part of any alpaca's diet. If you want
> to feed it all the time, I would recommend getting it tested.
>
> You may find that with the shift of grass that your pacas suddenly
> get soft poo for a couple of days -- this is more likely a result of
> the bacteria in the rumen adjusting to the different grass than
> coccidia or other parasite. But I would keep a watch, just to be safe.
>
> Alpacas are smart animals, so of course they'll get bored.
> Especially since our pastures are miniscule to the altaplano. Giving
> them different hay, pine tree branches (they love the needles, just
> make sure it's not ponderosa pine), or other treats will help their
> attitude.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dani
>
> Dani McKenzie & Hovey Moore
> Longbottom Meadows
> Roy, WA 98580
> www.longbottommeadows.com
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Purplpig <purplpig@...> wrote:
> >
> > Here in the northeast, the winter has been cold and snowy and my
> > alpacas spend most of their days
> > in the barn - their choice, not mine!
> >
> > I could not resist buying a few bales of green, aromatic alfalfa hay
> > the other day, hoping it would entice them
> > to go outside.
> > IT WORKED! However, now I am wondering if it is okay to feed only
> > alfalfa hay or if I should just use it
> > as a treat every few days.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > thanks
> > Lysa Grant
> > Pocopaca in the Poconos
> > Jim Thorpe, PA
> >
>
>
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: alfalfa hay

 

Hi Janice:
Actually we buy chicken scratch. It is made up of wheat, oats and corn in about
equal amounts, by volume.

The corn is small whole pieces or slghtly cracked leaving small pieces. It looks
like it is then all put through a screen to remove pieces that are too large as
the size is quite uniform. We buy it from a local feed store which I assume gets
it from a mill.

BTW the chickens go mad scratching for it also. I use it to give them some
exersize as they are confined due to the cold weather we are having this week.

By for now, Wayne
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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] RE: alfalfa hay

Wayne, could you share what grains and in what proportions is working
well for you?
Thanks! Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: alfalfa hay

 

<<< We seldom
feed grain except in extreme cold weather and then we feed a whole grain
mix
rather than alpaca pellets which we consider tii high in protien.>>>

Wayne, could you share what grains and in what proportions is working
well for you?
Thanks! Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: alfalfa hay

 

Some Breeders in Oz and New Zealand feed 100% alfalfa (called lucerne down there). Alfalfa *tends* to be higher in protein (and too much protein appears to increase micron count), but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be a part of any alpaca's diet. If you want to feed it all the time, I would recommend getting it tested.

You may find that with the shift of grass that your pacas suddenly get soft poo for a couple of days -- this is more likely a result of the bacteria in the rumen adjusting to the different grass than coccidia or other parasite. But I would keep a watch, just to be safe.

Alpacas are smart animals, so of course they'll get bored. Especially since our pastures are miniscule to the altaplano. Giving them different hay, pine tree branches (they love the needles, just make sure it's not ponderosa pine), or other treats will help their attitude.

Cheers,

Dani

Dani McKenzie & Hovey Moore
Longbottom Meadows
Roy, WA 98580
www.longbottommeadows.com

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Purplpig <purplpig@...> wrote:
>
> Here in the northeast, the winter has been cold and snowy and my
> alpacas spend most of their days
> in the barn - their choice, not mine!
>
> I could not resist buying a few bales of green, aromatic alfalfa hay
> the other day, hoping it would entice them
> to go outside.
> IT WORKED! However, now I am wondering if it is okay to feed only
> alfalfa hay or if I should just use it
> as a treat every few days.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> thanks
> Lysa Grant
> Pocopaca in the Poconos
> Jim Thorpe, PA
>

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