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Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Brandie

Thanks Janice!

It sounds to me like your black boy may have choked himself out, that is why he dropped when he stopped. It is also a very good idea to put a halter on when cleaning his feet, and tied to something very sturdy!! :) It might help to keep one of the others close by, untill he is done. One of my donks, Daisy Mae, a standard, has a fit if her best bud, another standard, Bonnie, is out in the field and she isnt!! Some of mine will stand without being tied or haltered. All of the donks will stand, some better than others, but atleast I can get their feet cleaned. When I have the farrier here, everyone is haltered and I put a lead on the lucky one that volunteers to be first.

I know the fear!! Last year I was out feeding one morning. I seen this light brown streak go by, FAST!! It hit me that it was my baby, Jynger!! There was something flapping around her head, I couldnt make out what it was. I ran as fast as I could, following her, just in time to see and hear her miss the gate opening and hit the cattle panel, bounce off it, and make it thru the opening. It was a plastic bag that evidently she had picked up, and the wind may have caught it, scaring her, and she took off. I caught her, and found she had blood coming from her nose, at the back edge. She had made her right nose hole a bit larger. I washed it off, doctored it and kept checking. In a few days it was all healed up.

Jim Guerin
Yelm, WA


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From: houckj@aol.com
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:32 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Brandie


<<<Brandie is doing very well, does not seem to be showing any pain at
all. The paddling when she would walk, is gone too, walking in a
straight line. >>>

That is super super news Jim!

We had a very scary incident yesterday with one of our mini's - the
former black stallion who is so firey and stubborn and fiesty. My dd
was trying to clean his feet. She had already cleaned the others (major
mud in their pasture) and let them out into the yard to graze, while we
were working outside and can keep an eye on them - the buggers. Anyway,
she had tied him to a heavy wagon we use for hay, but it was empty. I
looked up from where I was pruning apples to see what all the clatter
was and saw him at a full run around the pasture dragging that wagon -
ON ITS SIDE - behind him in total abandon/terror. Both of us with
hearts pounding trying to get him to calm down. He finally came to her
and just fell over on his side. I can't tell you the fear we both were
feeling. She had tears welling up, my heart was pounding. The rope was
so tight around his neck - she had just draped it over while she was
doing his feet - that he darn near strangled himself. He just could not
stand it that his buddies were out grazing and he was not. Thank god he
appears to be ok, tho the old wooden wagon is toast. DD learned quite a
lesson yesterday - I am just thankful it did not cost us a horse....and
me a vet bill.

Warmly, Janice



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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: feeding questions/DE

Ok...gotta know the name of the herbal wormer.  Can anyone help w/ the answer??   thanks
 
Deb Weideman
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From: "houckj@aol.com" <houckj@aol.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 9:35:02 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: feeding questions/DE

<<<<. You reminded me I should start feeding it now. By
the way, I ran fecals on all my alpacas and the guard llama 3 months AFTER I
stopped feeding the D.E. Although we ARE on drylot, hardly anything
showed up
and I didn't worm them last summer. I believe it does work for worms also.

SUSAN OLSON>>>>

That's great to hear!

As I have been reading some goat lists lately I am seeing a number of
people rave about how great their goats look once they switched them to
an herbal wormer. They talk about one in particular but can't remember
off hand what it was. They talk about how great their coats like, and
how their color has improved. I am thinking it might work the same for
alpacas. Certainly worth a try. I know several here already do the
herbal wormers. I have been so lax on my worming that I feel like I
want to catch up with the chemical wormers, make sure they are in good
shape to start with and then maintain them on herbals..... I guess except
for the ivermec for m-worm :-(.

Warmly, Janice, going to start this week-end throwing a handful of DE on
the pacas and the horses feed. do you do this at both feedings, or just
once a day?

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] re: hi from new member

Hi Janice,
My sheep shearer is going to help me learn to shear my own sheep this year.
I'm hoping that she can do my alpacas too. I want to be able to do it myself,
eventually!
Yes, I trim my own goats and sheep hooves. With help from my husband, we
could probably do the alpacas. The mama is a kicker, so that will be fun, lol.
I have my sheep for pets and for their fiber! I needle felt and love making
little animals from their wool. Now I'll have the alpaca wool to work with
too! Can't wait to try it.
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In a message dated 3/6/2009 8:29:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
houckj@aol.com writes:

<<<<I'm so glad our sheep is okay after the kick too...I love her so
much, she's
2 years old but still our baby. She is just fine.
My next adventure is to find someone to shear my 4 alpacas for me, and to
help trim their hooves!
Pam>>>>

Who shears your sheep? The guy that shears my alpacas is actually a
sheep shearer, but when the alpaca people discovered his gentle ways, he
had a whole new clientele.
You can trim their hooves - that part's easy - it's getting them to
*let* you, or restraining them.
Do you trim your goat's hooves? I think its about the same, but I've
never had goats so don't really know. There are other people here that
have goats so I am sure they can tell you better than I.

Do you have your sheep for fiber? Or grass cutting :-).
I used to want some Baby Doll sheep, but haven't thought about it in a
long time.

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: feeding questions/DE

<<<<. You reminded me I should start feeding it now. By
the way, I ran fecals on all my alpacas and the guard llama 3 months AFTER I
stopped feeding the D.E. Although we ARE on drylot, hardly anything
showed up
and I didn't worm them last summer. I believe it does work for worms also.

SUSAN OLSON>>>>

That's great to hear!

As I have been reading some goat lists lately I am seeing a number of
people rave about how great their goats look once they switched them to
an herbal wormer. They talk about one in particular but can't remember
off hand what it was. They talk about how great their coats like, and
how their color has improved. I am thinking it might work the same for
alpacas. Certainly worth a try. I know several here already do the
herbal wormers. I have been so lax on my worming that I feel like I
want to catch up with the chemical wormers, make sure they are in good
shape to start with and then maintain them on herbals.....I guess except
for the ivermec for m-worm :-(.

Warmly, Janice, going to start this week-end throwing a handful of DE on
the pacas and the horses feed. do you do this at both feedings, or just
once a day?

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[AlpacaTalk] re: hi from new member

<<<<I'm so glad our sheep is okay after the kick too...I love her so
much, she's
2 years old but still our baby. She is just fine.
My next adventure is to find someone to shear my 4 alpacas for me, and to
help trim their hooves!
Pam>>>>

Who shears your sheep? The guy that shears my alpacas is actually a
sheep shearer, but when the alpaca people discovered his gentle ways, he
had a whole new clientele.
You can trim their hooves - that part's easy - it's getting them to
*let* you, or restraining them.
Do you trim your goat's hooves? I think its about the same, but I've
never had goats so don't really know. There are other people here that
have goats so I am sure they can tell you better than I.

Do you have your sheep for fiber? Or grass cutting :-).
I used to want some Baby Doll sheep, but haven't thought about it in a
long time.

Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Speaking Of Pronking!~

<<<<That is so cool, Wendy! Anyone else have older alpacas that pronk? I'm
curious. Also, the girls pronk a lot more than the boys do - is that par for
the course in everyone's herds?
>>>>

That is incredibly cool Wendy! I am so impressed. I thought my girl
was old at 9 - she acts old, in fact even my male has never shown one
whit of interest in her at all :-). She was so playful when she was
young......weren't we all :-).

But as to the girls pronging more: none of my females prong; hmm some to
thing of it neither of my males either. Actually only my 5yo gelding
prongs. He is large and handsome and is just a sight to behold pronging
about. Now he has a little buddy (Merry Morning) to prong with and they
have a grand time together. He is solid white, she is solid black.
What a sight they are.

Janice in NW GA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: Brandie

Wow, glad to hear your guy is okay, Janice! That reminds me, I have carpal
tunnel and dropped a lead rope once when halter training a 5 month old. Now
I will try really hard never do that again. She spooked at the lead rope
flapping at her side and took off like a banshee and didn't stop running for 1/2
hour, I thought she'd have a heart attack.

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/6/2009 6:33:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
houckj@aol.com writes:

<<<Brandie is doing very well, does not seem to be showing any pain at
all. The paddling when she would walk, is gone too, walking in a
straight line. >>>

That is super super news Jim!

We had a very scary incident yesterday with one of our mini's - the
former black stallion who is so firey and stubborn and fiesty. My dd
was trying to clean his feet. She had already cleaned the others (major
mud in their pasture) and let them out into the yard to graze, while we
were working outside and can keep an eye on them - the buggers. Anyway,
she had tied him to a heavy wagon we use for hay, but it was empty. I
looked up from where I was pruning apples to see what all the clatter
was and saw him at a full run around the pasture dragging that wagon -
ON ITS SIDE - behind him in total abandon/terror. Both of us with
hearts pounding trying to get him to calm down. He finally came to her
and just fell over on his side. I can't tell you the fear we both were
feeling. She had tears welling up, my heart was pounding. The rope was
so tight around his neck - she had just draped it over while she was
doing his feet - that he darn near strangled himself. He just could not
stand it that his buddies were out grazing and he was not. Thank god he
appears to be ok, tho the old wooden wagon is toast. DD learned quite a
lesson yesterday - I am just thankful it did not cost us a horse....and
me a vet bill.

Warmly, Janice

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Dry lot?

We don't use anything, just our d.g. dirt hillside. In the winter when it
rains a lot, I put rice hulls down in the shelters for them to lay on. They
don't get stuck in their fleece like shavings do and last a lot longer, unless
you have a lot of wind, then they blow away. Some feedstores carry the rice
hulls, some don't. They come in bags like shavings.

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/6/2009 7:05:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
CARLA0@aol.com writes:

Hmmm....what does everyone use on dry lots? I have been looking..looks like
gravel or dirt...anyone?
Thanks
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Bedrock Acres
Greenville SC
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] feeding questions/DE

No, I just throw a handful in their pellets each morning. I wouldn't want
them breathing it in while eating hay. One handful per 8 alpacas, I'd say. I
also pre-mix it in when I pour the pellet bags into the containers and just
feed it already mixed. You reminded me I should start feeding it now. By
the way, I ran fecals on all my alpacas and the guard llama 3 months AFTER I
stopped feeding the D.E. Although we ARE on drylot, hardly anything showed up
and I didn't worm them last summer. I believe it does work for worms also.

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

In a message dated 3/6/2009 7:06:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
houckj@aol.com writes:




While we are on this subject again - how do you feed the DE. I finally
found some and started adding it to the chix feed about a month ago.
Now that I am convinced it is food quality and not going to kill them
I'd like to start adding it to the paca and horse feed.

I think I remember Susan saying she just threw it on the hay as it
clings to everything? lol for some reason I think that is funny :-).
but sounds the easiest!

Thanks! Janice

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