[AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk
Dear Shari,
I would like to apologize to you personally if I offended you. I did
not intend to offend anyone. I was frustrated and tired of folks
throwing mud at each other when it was not necessary. It has gone on
long enough. Earlier in the week I had asked folks to step back and
take a breath and look at both sides of the story
However the
situation still became inflamed.
Alpacatalk is a good site that has much to offer us breeders.
Sometimes it may not read fun but that is rare. Most often there are
good discussion
.sometime
rarely do they become this inflamed. Alpacatalk is a place that is
free speech
unedited.
I do apologize to you and anyone else that I may have upset. I hope
that you all can understand that I can not handle watching punches
being thrown and I am the type that will step up to the plate and
call it as I see it. I am human and I am willing to take
responsibility for my actions.
Sincerely
Toni Kester
Spirit Eagle Alpacas
Lakewood, Wa
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
wrote:
>
> Please remove me form this group.
> I no longer want ANY emails from here.
>
>
> Shari Pritchard
> Autumn Sky Alpacas
> 21525 Berchtold Road
> Chillicothe, IL 61523
> 309-360-5311
> www.autumnsky-
> email: autumn@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
On
> Behalf Of yarnpeddler1
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:08 PM
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AlpacaTalk
>
> Dearest Libby,
> You are really sounding like a jack ass bully! GO AWAY!
> If Heather is wrong then Heather will fall. I'll bet $$$ that
> Heather would be the first person to step up and say
.I was wrong
(if
> she is)
I own it! I'll eat my crap sandwich
> Karma is an amazing thing! What goes around comes around
In case ya
> didn't know.
>
> JUST LET IT DIE AND LET OTHERS FORM THEIR OWN OPINIONS ABOUT HEATHER
> AND AOBA! We are all intelligent folks.
>
> FYI: Yes she did create this forum and I commend her for not
> freekin' deleting you off this site. Heather is obviously a woman of
> her word
.if it was me you'd be gone. GO AWAY!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Toni Kester
> Spirit Eagle Alpacas
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
40yahoogroups.
> libby@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Heather,
> >
> >
> > Yes, Rick does enforce the rules of Alpacasite. I believe you said
> that
> > you are already on moderate status on Alpacasite?
> >
> > Ah, yes, I've been waiting for this. A bit of a threat? Heather,
> it
> > probably feels like the shots are coming at you because you are
the
> one
> > making up things, accusations and innuendoes and so people like me
> have
> > responded to you and challenged you to provide the proof to back
up
> what
> > you accuse. If you were to stop making up things about other
> people.
> > people like me would stop confronting you. Your last post is a
> great
> > example....full of accusations and innuendoes without one shred of
> proof.
> > If you stopped making up things without proof, and waited for
proof
> or
> > facts before commenting or accusing or making nasty innuendoes, I
> would
> > LOVE it if that were to happen. It would be wonderful if you were
> to find
> > out all the facts and then comment and not assume, not accuse or
> make
> > innuendoes and then have to admit later that you "have no proof."
> That
> > would be great. Imagine how wonderful this site would be?
> >
> > If you were to ban someone like me for daring to challenge what
you
> said
> > because I asked you for proof behind your accusations and
> innuendoes, and
> > for calling a lie a lie, you would be accused of trying to silence
> me just
> > because I dared to ask you for proof. You would be violating your
> own
> > rules and would look like you were afraid of the truth coming out.
> >
> > So far, you have adhered to your own rules. I give you FULL credit
> for
> > this. Question is...will it continue??
> >
> > When you are ready to stop accusing people of wrongdoing with no
> proof, I'm
> > ready to shut up!! Nothing I'd love more.
> >
> > Libby
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> > Heather
> Zeleny
> >
> <alpacatalk@
> >
> indalpacas.com> To
> > Sent by:
> AlpacaTalk@yahoogro
> >
> AlpacaTalk@yahoog cc
> >
> roups.com
> >
> Subject
> > [AlpacaTalk]
> AlpacaTalk
> > 01/09/2008
> 10:41
> >
> AM
> >
>
> >
>
> > Please respond
> to
> >
> AlpacaTalk@yahoog
> >
> roups.com
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Alpacasite is very tightly controlled by Rick horn, and anything
> said
> > there that does not comply with his opinion (or those controlling
> him)
> > are quickly quashed. If Rick Horn were running this group, many
> people
> > would have had their membership edited so they could no longer
> post, or
> > banned completely. You may note the very critical posts about ME
on
> > this group. If a group of people posted that way about Rick Horn,
> they
> > would be silenced in no time and those posts removed. I've seen it
> > happen too many times to count. While I do think the posts are
> becoming
> > potshots pointed at me, I am not banning or editing anyone,
> although I
> > think that time may sadly be coming.
> >
> > No, this group treats members as adults and allows them to speak
> their
> > mind. And yes, we do have a lot of discussion on alpaca health and
> > husbandry. In fact, that is what most of the discussion is about,
> and
> > what to do with your fleece once it's off the animal.
> >
> > If you want a group where you are free to ask real questions, this
> is
> > the group for you.
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:11 AM, libby@ wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Aileen,
> > >
> > > I understand and sympathize with your confusion. Yes, you
probably
> > > have
> > > the wrong site. You probably want Alpacasite which is dedicated
to
> > > animal
> > > care, etc. etc. Politics are pretty quickly moved off
Alpacasite.
> This
> > > site Alpaca Talk was set up by Heather as moderator to use as
she
> > > sees fit
> > > and she permits anything to be said, whether or not it's true,
and
> > > that
> > > forces people to either accept what she says or challenge
> > > it;..resulting in
> > > pretty frustrating conversations for all. I've chosen to
> challenge her
> > > rather than just let unsubstantiated comments sit out there for
> new
> > > people
> > > to be confused by.
> > >
> > > So, in all honesty, you probably want Alpacasite. It's a
terrific
> > > site run
> > > by Rick Horn. Nothing is perfect but I think it's more of what
> you are
> > > looking for re: alpaca health, etc., etc. There's also a
marketing
> > > site
> > > (Erin McCarthy, moderator) and a politics site, although I
suspect
> > > you want
> > > to stay away from the politics site as well as it's not
moderated.
> > >
> > > Good luck and enjoy!!
> > >
> > > Libby
> > >
> > > Libby Forstner
> > > Magical Farms
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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