RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fiber male sales contract
Rebecca,
I am so glad to see this information pointed out so clearly regarding the Registration Certificate not conferring legal ownership.
I had a situation with a newly purchased four year old male alpaca. I paid cash for him and two others and had a sales contract to that effect.
After two weeks of bringing them to our farm, he knocked me down. I was so surprised and taken off guard. I notified the breeder and requested she take him back and she refused to take him back OR refund or exchange him for another. I was advised by several experienced breeders to take him back or put him down. I checked with three different farms to see if anyone wanted him. I was willing to give him away. Nobody wanted him or the liability that came with him.
In the two weeks that followed, he became more aggressive. I wouldn’t go into the pasture with him, and my teens were told to steer clear of him. He would rush to the gate as we approached and it wasn’t the typical “do you have food for me ?” rush……his body language told me he was very unhappy. My husband took care of him and he tried to jump on him, also.
The final straw was when we went to remove two younger males from the pasture and he came barreling for my husband. My husband had a pen panel in his hands and used it like a shield to protect himself and while jumping on him, the alpaca BIT him in the chest. All of this was very scary.
I contacted the breeder one more time and told her if she wanted him to please come get him, otherwise we were having him euthanized. She never asked me to keep him until she could come get him, but said she couldn’t come get him. All the while acted as if it was all my fault and I did something to make him this way.
The vet came and had to use a blow dart to sedate him. He came rushing the gate and was clearly loaded for bear. After he was sedated, he was euthanized.
I never formed a loving bond with him, but it made me sad and I felt like such a failure.
The breeder informed me that I killed him before he was registered in my name, therefore she could sue me. I knew the Registration papers had nothing to do with proof of ownership, but I have to admit I was shocked that this woman, who claimed to have so much experience with alpacas and had been in the business for a good while, would think that those Registration papers would take precedence over a sales contract.
Our first year of alpaca ownership was full of trials and tribulations, but we managed to get through it without and human injuries. The other two males are still with us and doing well. I will never buy an adult male, though. I know there are many wonderful ones out there, but this was just too much for us. I have since purchased and been gifted several young males. They are sweethearts, but they are not pocket pets and unless I have food, they could care less about me being there. They do not run up and give kisses, as she suggested hers did. Ugh!
Sorry, got side tracked and verbose. This subject still hits a nerve with me.
Laura
Laura Roberts
R Half Pint Farm
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:57 PM
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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Re: Fiber male sales contract
…………………………………………………………………………..One thing I want to point out is that using these contracts that are based on the original AOBA contract templates (also in the files), is that any wording referring to "title" is misleading. Alpacas do not have ownership titles like cars. They have Registration Certificates which do not confer legal ownership, only genealogy. The sales contract is what confers legal ownership.
posted by Chaddo at 4:58 PM
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