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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: The use of blood sugar monitoring in new cria’s

 

I will let you all know about my testing of the human pregnancy tests on alpacas, I plan on going to Big Lots or Rite Aid or somewhere where they sell them cheap, picking up a few and testing our known to be pregnant alpacas and then our known maidens to see if they work.  I'll let you know!
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: How to put up a fence?

 

If the posts are deep and upright then it sounds like all you need is a
"Come-a-long". Works like a winch, fasten it off, attach to the fence
and ratchet it until that section of fence is tight. Reattach the fence to
the post and move on. Start in the back, at a corner, and just keep
doing one segment at a time. You will end up with extra fencing at the end
Just save it for tomato cages ....

You might try contacting the "fence contractors" and ask them when
they are coming back to finish the fence since it hasn't been tightened
yet"---Might work, not likely.
As usual take pictures of your fence, of a fence that is properly tight
and one of each of the 'guys'; it is always good reference, if you need
to go there (i.e.; Better Business Bureau), or they ever need a reference.

Personally I like the Sunday paper method :
Take out Ad:
These Guys=> Picture 1.
Built this =>Picture 2 (saggy fence)
I, as a Reasonable person, expected this =>Picture 3 (proper tight fence)
END with: This is my work Reference if you are thinking of hiring fencing
help.

But that's just me.
D. McLaughlin
Black Pearl Farm
Colbert, WA

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Carla Martin" <CARLA0@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone...well..another newbie question....I have two acres I wanted to start with, or fence in for now.I had some guys that said they new how to put up the no climb fence for me...and well..it was the worse job I have ever saw! Is there an easy way? I cannot remember how my Dad usued to put up our horse fence but they were pulled tight!
> Would it be better to have a chain link fence installed just on the two acres? I'm not sure what the cost is per ft...I'm so bumbed ..I cannot even get the fence up!
> Thanks for any help!
> Carla Martin
> Bedrock Acres
> Greenville SC
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] plasma

 

Hi Heather,
We started this summer and have drawn about 15 units so far and are going to be vampires again in 2 weeks to do it all again.

I work with my vet and they mildly sedate just to keep them calm and mellow, but not knocked out. 

The supplies I estimate cost about $20, but the centrifuge is a much bigger expense and is not readily available. We also test the IgG so there is the added expense of the RID plate.

It takes 5 minutes to get the blood, so it isn't a long ordeal and we do it all in our barn. I am working in partnership with my vet so that we split the profit and we sell at the same price as Triple J. Shipping is added on. Vet fees for administration are an added expense no matter what, but many breeders around here will administer the plasma by tubing or giving it in a bottle when they know that a dam is not producing milk or something has interfered with the cria getting colostrum.

It is not difficult, but handling the blood after acquiring it takes alot more time than I would have thought, and of course, you need a deep freezer to store it.

Guess that's it.

Laurel

The Shouvlins
Bluebird Hills Farm
Springfield, Ohio
937-206-3936
www.bluebirdhills.com
bluebirdhills@voyager.net




> Does anyone have experience with collecting your own alpaca plasma? I
> know there are some people who do it. I am curious about how it's
> done, at the vet's office or on the farm?
> Is the alpaca sedated?
> What are the fees involved?
> Is it more cost effective (less expensive) than buying it from Triple
> J or your vet or vet hospital?
>
> I guess my main question is about the cost. I've seen that one unit
> now goes for $383, plus the vet fees of administering to the cria.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Oregon

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: The use of blood sugar monitoring in new cria’s

 

I will have to ask my wife about that to be accurate and post it by this weekend.

Rob
--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, "Elisabeth Fortin" <elisabethfortin@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Thanks for the info, very simple test to help you sleep tight :)
>
> Should the sugar levels in alpacas be the same as humans?
>
> Thanks
>
> Elisabeth Fortin
> http://www.alpacadore.com
> Quebec, Canada
>
> --- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Robert Stephens <robasia.alpacas@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Group, Mike Morack asked me to join this group and share our experiance with testing Alpaca Blood Sugar. I have not reviewed any previous posts so I apologize if this is repetitive.
> > Rob
> > The use of blood sugar monitoring in new cria’s by Rob and Dr. Joanna Stephens
> > Disclaimer: I (Rob) am writing this is I remember the situation and circumstances, I’m not the Dr., my wife is.
> > Last spring we had a proven female give birth. Everything was normal for the dam and cria (a female). About 24 hours later Joanna walked into the barn and the cria was having  a major seizure and breathing was in question.  Joanna administered mouth to snout and called the vet. While vet was in route we started to cool off cria because she was running a fever, I cannot recall how much. Vet arrived and fluids were administered and seizure subsided. Cria and mom were moved to garage. Cria was blind for 3-4 days. Cria now is perfectly normal at over one year of age.
> > So what caused this? Examining dam, her teats were engorged and filled with a grey goo (mastitis?). We fixed this with medication and milking the mom, it took a few days to clear up. The root cause determined that although the cria appeared to be feeding from dam she was not getting anything.
> > We also have barn cameras that recorded the event leading up to the seizure. What it showed that the cria was showing signs of distress but they were unrecognizable unless you sat and watched the cria for an extended period of time. Joanna was walking in and out of the pen with the cria and didn’t notice a thing, but when we played it back at 8x speed you can see the cria very slowly moving in backwards circle motion until it seized, this was over a period of 30 min or so.
> > Which now brings us to the blood sugar check. The rational is in alpacas as in humans, if we don’t eat our blood sugar will drop. We use a simple blood sugar monitor devise and a strip, the same ones diabetics use. We prick the ear for blood and run the test just like pricking your finger, it’s that simple. If we have any reason to suspect something isn’t normal (with milk) we do this early enough in the evening on the first day so that if we need to intervene we can do it and be ready to go to bed at a normal hour instead of doing it just before we are ready for bed.
> > As a rule we want to be hands off and let the cria and mother bond but we also do not want a crisis, this helps us accomplish both.
> > So what do we do if blood sugar is dropping? We will first give STAT (energy goo) 3-4 x per day and keep watching until hopefully the mothers milk come in and test accordingly.
> >  RobAsia Alpaca Ranch LLC
> > Rob & Joanna Stephens
> > Manitowoc, WIsconsin
> >
>

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: The use of blood sugar monitoring in new cria’s

 

STAT is at valley vet

Let me know on the pregnancy test!

Rob

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, LunarStruck@... wrote:
>
> Thanks Rob, great info! What is STAT and where do you get it?
>
> I still have to test whether human pregnancy sticks work on alpacas.....
>
> SUSAN OLSON
> Alpaca Loco
> Riverside, CA
>
> "People can NEVER go down the drain."
> Mr. Rodgers, dispelling kids' fear of bathtubs.
>

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: Question for alpaca owners

 

<<< I would say browsers. My trees and shrubs will get stripped, if not
protected, and they love ponderosa pine bark, and also the needles. Aspen
trees, stripped of any leaves they can reach, and the blossom pods are
snarfed off the ground almost before they land.
Crab apple tree, had it's bark stripped off in several places before I
realized they could reach it through the fence.
Plus mine love yucca blossoms, going after those, even before tasting the
grass on a new field, and will also eat the yucca. How they never seem to
get those sharp ends in their face and eyes I don't know. I can't walk by
one without getting a yucca injection.

Now if they would just eat the weeds with as much enthusiasm..
.... >>>

Mine strip the fig tree and the apple tree that they can reach of every
leaf and piece of fruit they can reach......standing on their back legs
- they are quite the acrobats. They will also stand and dance for
privit. When one of mine went off feed and hay and was looking quite
peaked and puny a few months ago, I offered him privit while making
desperate phone calls for help.
He gobbled it up :-). They *love* sweet gum, of which I unfortuantely
have an abundance of. They walk along scarfing up every dead sweet gum
leaf they can find, tho I've never seen any of them "stand and dance" at
the tree itself.
They will clear new (previously ungrazed) woods of all undergrowth; mine
will eat weeds that the horses won't touch. When I am out mowing! the
horse pasture I am frustrated by the abundance of "good" weeds left
alone that the alpacas would have gladly scarfed up - like honeysuckle,
and various weeds that I recognize but don't know the name of - wild
lettuce is a favorite. I will pull a tall stalk anywhere I find it just
to bring to my guys because I know how much they love it. They will
also clear a pasture of grass and clover quite quickly! But not destroy
like the horses do.
Browsers AND grazers :-).
Warmly, Janice

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[AlpacaTalk] Re: The use of blood sugar monitoring in new cria’s

 

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the info, very simple test to help you sleep tight :)

Should the sugar levels in alpacas be the same as humans?

Thanks

Elisabeth Fortin
http://www.alpacadore.com
Quebec, Canada

--- In AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com, Robert Stephens <robasia.alpacas@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Group, Mike Morack asked me to join this group and share our experiance with testing Alpaca Blood Sugar. I have not reviewed any previous posts so I apologize if this is repetitive.
> Rob
> The use of blood sugar monitoring in new cria’s by Rob and Dr. Joanna Stephens
> Disclaimer: I (Rob) am writing this is I remember the situation and circumstances, I’m not the Dr., my wife is.
> Last spring we had a proven female give birth. Everything was normal for the dam and cria (a female). About 24 hours later Joanna walked into the barn and the cria was having  a major seizure and breathing was in question.  Joanna administered mouth to snout and called the vet. While vet was in route we started to cool off cria because she was running a fever, I cannot recall how much. Vet arrived and fluids were administered and seizure subsided. Cria and mom were moved to garage. Cria was blind for 3-4 days. Cria now is perfectly normal at over one year of age.
> So what caused this? Examining dam, her teats were engorged and filled with a grey goo (mastitis?). We fixed this with medication and milking the mom, it took a few days to clear up. The root cause determined that although the cria appeared to be feeding from dam she was not getting anything.
> We also have barn cameras that recorded the event leading up to the seizure. What it showed that the cria was showing signs of distress but they were unrecognizable unless you sat and watched the cria for an extended period of time. Joanna was walking in and out of the pen with the cria and didn’t notice a thing, but when we played it back at 8x speed you can see the cria very slowly moving in backwards circle motion until it seized, this was over a period of 30 min or so.
> Which now brings us to the blood sugar check. The rational is in alpacas as in humans, if we don’t eat our blood sugar will drop. We use a simple blood sugar monitor devise and a strip, the same ones diabetics use. We prick the ear for blood and run the test just like pricking your finger, it’s that simple. If we have any reason to suspect something isn’t normal (with milk) we do this early enough in the evening on the first day so that if we need to intervene we can do it and be ready to go to bed at a normal hour instead of doing it just before we are ready for bed.
> As a rule we want to be hands off and let the cria and mother bond but we also do not want a crisis, this helps us accomplish both.
> So what do we do if blood sugar is dropping? We will first give STAT (energy goo) 3-4 x per day and keep watching until hopefully the mothers milk come in and test accordingly.
>  RobAsia Alpaca Ranch LLC
> Rob & Joanna Stephens
> Manitowoc, WIsconsin
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: How to put up a fence?

 

VERY cool info, thanks John!
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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