Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

If you're looking for a good LSG herd sire, my mom's got a really nice
jr sire, placed 2nd at AlpacaMania 2005 ahead of Aussie Rockford and El
R Luciano sons. Woodland Meadows Greyson had 22 microns at almost 2
years of age, from last year's clip. He has really nice crimp and
excellent conformation, and a very full topknot. He has no spots, just
a very uniform LSG with the typical tuxedo white. He's one I'm
seriously considering breeding my TB Bolivian dam to this year.

Heather Zeleny
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1150 Darlene Ln. #199
Eugene, OR, 97401

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On Apr 23, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Elwin wrote:

> Marianne: Please send pictures of Spats to my
> e-mail elwin@tds.net
> or to my website elwin@windyhillalpacafarm.com
>
> I don't quite understand what you are saying
> about breeding to a white to produce another
> Gray.
>
> I have found that it is not good to breed gray
> to white. I got two boys with blue streaks in
> the eyes breeding a gray to two whites.
> And this gray was a son of The Silversmith who
> threw 130 good crias.
>
> Of course blue streaks in the eyes are o.k.,but
> some people shy away from them.
>
> We are in Jasper, GA. not that far from you.
> I had to go all the way to upper OH to find a
> breeding gray that I could afford.
> I got him for a season by swapping a TB boy for
> breeding, and now that he has five crias in the
> oven for me, I bought a half interest in him.
> He is FRA Platinum Prince. Son of Legacy De
> Bolivia who threw 200 crias in two years. Prince
> is a perfect LSG boy with 22 micron. LSG with
> not a dark spot on him and pure Bolivian. His
> dam and sire are imports, LSG and TB.
>
> I am always looking for new TB, White and Gray
> bloodlines.
> I made the mistake of using my Silversmith line
> boy for five years and I now have a whole bunch
> of girls that I have had to go out and buy
> herdsires for.
> I don't buy breedings any more. There are so
> many good herdsires out there for sale that I
> think it does not pay to buy breedings.
> I did pay for one breeding to El Patron, and the
> results were very good. I got a beautiful white
> girl, but it took her four years to mature, and
> she is due 14 days ago.
>
> I have a boy, grand son of the silversmith and
> of PPPruvian PLuro who is the best fiber boy
> that I have ever seen. He will be available in
> one year.
>
> I have two sons of Peruvian Pizzaro who are at
> stud now, but only the one gray, and no whites
> yet,
> Keep in touch.
> Elwin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Barry
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!
>
>
> Elwin,
> My herdsires name is "Splendid "Spats"
> Spatterdash". He is my only alpaca at this time
> so he is boarded at a local farm for now. I
> don't have a farm website yet but if you'd like
> to see Spats or the new cria please feel free to
> email me directly and I can send you pics. The
> dam and cria belong to the boarding farm. The
> dam was a solid white. Looking forward to
> breeding with another white to see if it'll
> produce another gray. This is where a year seems
> like two. :) By the way, where in the SE are you
> located?
> have a great day!
> Marianne
> Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
> Sumter, SC
>
> Elwin <Gapacaman@tds.net> wrote:
> Who is the sire and dam. We need some great
> silver gray alpacas in the southeast.
> Elwin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marianne Barry
> To: alpacageldings@yahoogroups.com ; alpaca
> talk
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:50 AM
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!
>
>
> hi guys!
> just had to share with someone that my
> herdsire became a daddy for the first time
> this
> week!! It's a beautiful 17+ pound silver gray
> boy!! He has a white face and chest( I think
> they call it the tuxcedo style) and white
> leggings. the rest is a darker silver gray,
> with
> a small patch of auburn on his rump (his
> daddy's
> color). The dam's owner sold her before the
> birth, and the new owner has named him
> sterling.
> I'm sooo proud of my boy. it looks like
> sterling
> will carry on his daddy's great thick crimp
> too.
> just had to brag a little. Though it's very
> hard
> when the new one doesn't belong to you. thanks
> for the support guys. it was harder then I
> thought not to have control over this cria.
> have a great day!
> marianne
> Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
> Sumter, SC
>
>
> Tim & Marianne Barry
> Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
> Sumter, SC
> myalpacapride@yahoo.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

Marianne: Please send pictures of Spats to my
e-mail elwin@tds.net
or to my website elwin@windyhillalpacafarm.com

I don't quite understand what you are saying
about breeding to a white to produce another
Gray.

I have found that it is not good to breed gray
to white. I got two boys with blue streaks in
the eyes breeding a gray to two whites.
And this gray was a son of The Silversmith who
threw 130 good crias.

Of course blue streaks in the eyes are o.k.,but
some people shy away from them.

We are in Jasper, GA. not that far from you.
I had to go all the way to upper OH to find a
breeding gray that I could afford.
I got him for a season by swapping a TB boy for
breeding, and now that he has five crias in the
oven for me, I bought a half interest in him.
He is FRA Platinum Prince. Son of Legacy De
Bolivia who threw 200 crias in two years. Prince
is a perfect LSG boy with 22 micron. LSG with
not a dark spot on him and pure Bolivian. His
dam and sire are imports, LSG and TB.

I am always looking for new TB, White and Gray
bloodlines.
I made the mistake of using my Silversmith line
boy for five years and I now have a whole bunch
of girls that I have had to go out and buy
herdsires for.
I don't buy breedings any more. There are so
many good herdsires out there for sale that I
think it does not pay to buy breedings.
I did pay for one breeding to El Patron, and the
results were very good. I got a beautiful white
girl, but it took her four years to mature, and
she is due 14 days ago.

I have a boy, grand son of the silversmith and
of PPPruvian PLuro who is the best fiber boy
that I have ever seen. He will be available in
one year.

I have two sons of Peruvian Pizzaro who are at
stud now, but only the one gray, and no whites
yet,
Keep in touch.
Elwin

----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Barry
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

Elwin,
My herdsires name is "Splendid "Spats"
Spatterdash". He is my only alpaca at this time
so he is boarded at a local farm for now. I
don't have a farm website yet but if you'd like
to see Spats or the new cria please feel free to
email me directly and I can send you pics. The
dam and cria belong to the boarding farm. The
dam was a solid white. Looking forward to
breeding with another white to see if it'll
produce another gray. This is where a year seems
like two. :) By the way, where in the SE are you
located?
have a great day!
Marianne
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC

Elwin <Gapacaman@tds.net> wrote:
Who is the sire and dam. We need some great
silver gray alpacas in the southeast.
Elwin

----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Barry
To: alpacageldings@yahoogroups.com ; alpaca
talk
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

hi guys!
just had to share with someone that my
herdsire became a daddy for the first time
this
week!! It's a beautiful 17+ pound silver gray
boy!! He has a white face and chest( I think
they call it the tuxcedo style) and white
leggings. the rest is a darker silver gray,
with
a small patch of auburn on his rump (his
daddy's
color). The dam's owner sold her before the
birth, and the new owner has named him
sterling.
I'm sooo proud of my boy. it looks like
sterling
will carry on his daddy's great thick crimp
too.
just had to brag a little. Though it's very
hard
when the new one doesn't belong to you. thanks
for the support guys. it was harder then I
thought not to have control over this cria.
have a great day!
marianne
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC

Tim & Marianne Barry
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC
myalpacapride@yahoo.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

Elwin,
My herdsires name is "Splendid "Spats" Spatterdash". He is my only alpaca at this time so he is boarded at a local farm for now. I don't have a farm website yet but if you'd like to see Spats or the new cria please feel free to email me directly and I can send you pics. The dam and cria belong to the boarding farm. The dam was a solid white. Looking forward to breeding with another white to see if it'll produce another gray. This is where a year seems like two. :) By the way, where in the SE are you located?
have a great day!
Marianne
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC

Elwin <Gapacaman@tds.net> wrote:
Who is the sire and dam. We need some great
silver gray alpacas in the southeast.
Elwin

----- Original Message -----
From: Marianne Barry
To: alpacageldings@yahoogroups.com ; alpaca
talk
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

hi guys!
just had to share with someone that my
herdsire became a daddy for the first time this
week!! It's a beautiful 17+ pound silver gray
boy!! He has a white face and chest( I think
they call it the tuxcedo style) and white
leggings. the rest is a darker silver gray, with
a small patch of auburn on his rump (his daddy's
color). The dam's owner sold her before the
birth, and the new owner has named him sterling.
I'm sooo proud of my boy. it looks like sterling
will carry on his daddy's great thick crimp too.
just had to brag a little. Though it's very hard
when the new one doesn't belong to you. thanks
for the support guys. it was harder then I
thought not to have control over this cria.
have a great day!
marianne
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC

Tim & Marianne Barry
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC
myalpacapride@yahoo.com

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

David: I have the a publication in the alpaca
site files which
was written by Jim Perry for the that lecture.
Jim was the seller who supplied my starter herd
in 2000.
He made an inspection of my farm and we cleared
out the suspect
trees. One was a yew shrub and one was a grove
of black wild cherry
trees. To this day, I inspect the pastures every
spring and cut out
any suspicious saplings that might be coming up
from the root of the
trees we took out in 2000. I have one section
not in pasture that I
overlooked for a couple of years. This spring I
found several five feet
tall cherry trees hidden in the underbrush. I am
digging them out
with a bobcat and hauling them off. l

Elwin
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From: David Friedman
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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how
toxic?

Hi Laurel,

No botanical expert here, by any means, but I
recall a lecture by Jim
Perry (who IS and expert), at the National
Show (2003?). Jim stated,
if memory serves, that he considered all
prunus species, members of
the rosacea family, to be toxic, to a lesser
or greater extent,
producing cyanogenic glycosides, such as
amygdalin, etc. Wouldn't
that include all cheries? If so, wouldn't
they all be, in theory, toxic?

Any botanical toxicologists out there, who
might wish to clarify this?

Dave

David & Esther Friedman
Adirondack Alpacas
"From the Womb to the Loom"
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Remsen, NY 13438
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At 07:44 AM 4/23/2006, you wrote:
>First have these trees positively identified
as the Black Cherry
>Trees that cause these problems. Local
vernacular gives trees
>different names, and these may or may not be
black
>cherries. Fruiting cherries (Bing, Pie
cherries, and the like) are
>a completely different species from the Black
Cherry which produces
>this problem. They are more closely related
to apples.
>
>States have state foresters, just like they
have extension agents
>for farms, so take advnatage of this resource
whenever you have a
>tree question. They can also advise you
about lumbering etc. In
>years past, there was often a bent toward
harvesting trees, so they
>would be quick to advise to cut things down
if they were good lumber
>trees, but now, at least in our local
experience, they are a bit
>less likely to encourage logging.
Thankfully.
>
>Laurel
>
>Tim & Laurel Shouvlin
>Bluebird Hills Farm CSA & Alpacas
>3617 Derr Rd. Springfield, Ohio 45503
>www.bluebirdhills.com
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

Tish,

With 30 acres it would be wise to pen your alpacas away from the woods ASAP
until you figure out a solution. AsI recall it was Brad Sprouce of Michigan
who originally identified the meningeal (sp) worm and the nesting habits of
the worm and their love for living in rotting cherry stumps. He built a
separate 8 high ft fence around his pastures in order to keep the white tail
deer out. Now he had a double fence with a 5 foot space between them
considering that the worm could not travel that far. This is such a serious
problem with camelids and white tail deer that at one time I had my llama
herd insured for over $400,000 for mortality. One female baby sold a year
paid for this insurance for us on top of doing everything in my power to
eliminate the problem. We still lost llamas to the (M) worm on occasion and
had even more of them crippled from it.

Have I scared the ever lovin HELL out of you yet?? I apologize if I have,
but this problem IS just that serious. Please look further into this by
checking with old time llama breeders for their input. I feel confident that
alpacas and llamas would have the same problem with the (M) worm.

Best of luck and please keep in touch as I am very concerned about this
problem. If I can help just one person from the heart ache and frustration
we had with losing our beloved llamas to this god awful worm I will feel
very good about myself.

Sincerely,

Paul Wade

-------Original Message-------

From: Tish Carpinelli
Date: 04/23/06 09:23:51
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

Paul-
Wow, I hadn't heard about the stump/parasite issue! And we sure do have
whitetail deer around here (so many that I have to put deer netting over all
my plants if I expect a garden!). I guess we'll have to look into that issue
as well. I know about the yew toxicity, and we do have them on the premises,
as well as aborvite (sp?). We are really careful where we dump what, and we
have a large parcel of land, so it's pretty easy. The problem is that most
of it is wooded, and with these cherry trees interspersed throughout. Last
summer, when the owners of the farm where we were buying our animals looked
over our land, they pointed out the "swamp cherries" that were in close
proximity to the area where the paddocks would be, but because of the
overgrowth of leaves in the summer (and our ignorance of tree species) we
didn't see all the others. So now we have the animals, and we are
discovering all these additional trees that have to come down, and my
husband is running around being Paul Bunyan trying to get them down before
they grow leaves! Unfortunately, we can't comfortably afford to bulldoze
large sections at this point, but even if we could, we would still be
worried about the leaves blowing from other areas. Someone who responded to
my question said that she understood that when the leaves are dry and
blowing around one or two wouldn't be a problem (I'm going to make sure I
back that up, but I hope she's right). This whole thing is making me really
nervous!

Thanks for your help!

Tish Carpinelli


----- Original Message -----
From: "paul" <swanlakellamas@adelphia.net>
To: <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?


> Tish,
>
> Back in 1982 or 83 I added 4 more acres to my property. It was full of
Huge
> wild cherry trees. Because of the danger of drying fallen leaves that
> contained cyanide I cut them down and had them sawn into lumber. I had the
> stumps removed by a huge bull dozer/front end crawler tractor and burned
or
> buried, at considerable expense I might add. At the time I was raising
show
> quality llamas and wanted this additional ground for them.
>
> There was considerable talk about the roots and stumps harboring a
parasite
> that would become a death warrant to the llamas through a parasite that
> wanted to nest in the stump and roots. Now mind you this was in
conjunction
> with the white tail deer which lived in these areas. Many people back then
> who lived in white tail deer country spent tons of money removing the
cherry
> trees as I did. I don't think that if you don't have any white tail deer
> around the cherry trees are harmless but I certainly would not take any
> chances with the wilting cherry leaves. Japanese Yews will also kill
> camelids so don't trim any and throw the trimmings near where the animals
> can eat them.
>
> Paul Wade
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Tish Carpinelli
> Date: 04/22/06 21:04:43
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?
>
> My husband and I are new alpaca owners who live in a very wooded area. We
> have cleared a number of what are referred to locally as "swamp cherry"
> trees from the area surrounding the paddocks, but are concerned about some
> of these trees over the property line (about 75 feet) on our neighbor's
land
> Our concern is not for branches falling, but the occasional leaf that may
> stray into the pen area. How bad would it be for an alpaca to injest a
leaf
> or two? And what about dried leaves in the fall? Are they still toxic?
> Thanks in advance for any advice for us newbies!
>
> Jim and Tish Carpinelli
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> Green Creek, NJ
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

Hi Laurel,

No botanical expert here, by any means, but I recall a lecture by Jim
Perry (who IS and expert), at the National Show (2003?). Jim stated,
if memory serves, that he considered all prunus species, members of
the rosacea family, to be toxic, to a lesser or greater extent,
producing cyanogenic glycosides, such as amygdalin, etc. Wouldn't
that include all cheries? If so, wouldn't they all be, in theory, toxic?

Any botanical toxicologists out there, who might wish to clarify this?

Dave

David & Esther Friedman
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At 07:44 AM 4/23/2006, you wrote:
>First have these trees positively identified as the Black Cherry
>Trees that cause these problems. Local vernacular gives trees
>different names, and these may or may not be black
>cherries. Fruiting cherries (Bing, Pie cherries, and the like) are
>a completely different species from the Black Cherry which produces
>this problem. They are more closely related to apples.
>
>States have state foresters, just like they have extension agents
>for farms, so take advnatage of this resource whenever you have a
>tree question. They can also advise you about lumbering etc. In
>years past, there was often a bent toward harvesting trees, so they
>would be quick to advise to cut things down if they were good lumber
>trees, but now, at least in our local experience, they are a bit
>less likely to encourage logging. Thankfully.
>
>Laurel
>
>Tim & Laurel Shouvlin
>Bluebird Hills Farm CSA & Alpacas
>3617 Derr Rd. Springfield, Ohio 45503
>www.bluebirdhills.com
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

Paul-
Wow, I hadn't heard about the stump/parasite issue! And we sure do have
whitetail deer around here (so many that I have to put deer netting over all
my plants if I expect a garden!). I guess we'll have to look into that issue
as well. I know about the yew toxicity, and we do have them on the premises,
as well as aborvite (sp?). We are really careful where we dump what, and we
have a large parcel of land, so it's pretty easy. The problem is that most
of it is wooded, and with these cherry trees interspersed throughout. Last
summer, when the owners of the farm where we were buying our animals looked
over our land, they pointed out the "swamp cherries" that were in close
proximity to the area where the paddocks would be, but because of the
overgrowth of leaves in the summer (and our ignorance of tree species) we
didn't see all the others. So now we have the animals, and we are
discovering all these additional trees that have to come down, and my
husband is running around being Paul Bunyan trying to get them down before
they grow leaves! Unfortunately, we can't comfortably afford to bulldoze
large sections at this point, but even if we could, we would still be
worried about the leaves blowing from other areas. Someone who responded to
my question said that she understood that when the leaves are dry and
blowing around one or two wouldn't be a problem (I'm going to make sure I
back that up, but I hope she's right). This whole thing is making me really
nervous!

Thanks for your help!

Tish Carpinelli

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul" <swanlakellamas@adelphia.net>
To: <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

> Tish,
>
> Back in 1982 or 83 I added 4 more acres to my property. It was full of
Huge
> wild cherry trees. Because of the danger of drying fallen leaves that
> contained cyanide I cut them down and had them sawn into lumber. I had the
> stumps removed by a huge bull dozer/front end crawler tractor and burned
or
> buried, at considerable expense I might add. At the time I was raising
show
> quality llamas and wanted this additional ground for them.
>
> There was considerable talk about the roots and stumps harboring a
parasite
> that would become a death warrant to the llamas through a parasite that
> wanted to nest in the stump and roots. Now mind you this was in
conjunction
> with the white tail deer which lived in these areas. Many people back then
> who lived in white tail deer country spent tons of money removing the
cherry
> trees as I did. I don't think that if you don't have any white tail deer
> around the cherry trees are harmless but I certainly would not take any
> chances with the wilting cherry leaves. Japanese Yews will also kill
> camelids so don't trim any and throw the trimmings near where the animals
> can eat them.
>
> Paul Wade
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> From: Tish Carpinelli
> Date: 04/22/06 21:04:43
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?
>
> My husband and I are new alpaca owners who live in a very wooded area. We
> have cleared a number of what are referred to locally as "swamp cherry"
> trees from the area surrounding the paddocks, but are concerned about some
> of these trees over the property line (about 75 feet) on our neighbor's
land
> Our concern is not for branches falling, but the occasional leaf that may
> stray into the pen area. How bad would it be for an alpaca to injest a
leaf
> or two? And what about dried leaves in the fall? Are they still toxic?
> Thanks in advance for any advice for us newbies!
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

Laurel-
You are right - I need to check with the county extension office for
positive identification. The owners of the farm where we bought the animals
called them "swamp cherries," and said they had to come down. I know they
aren't fruiting cherries, but I don't know what else they might be. I really
wanted some info this weekend, as this is really bothering me (and my
husband). We actually have 30 acres, mostly wooded, that have MANY of these
trees mixed in, so it will be a problem as we expand as well (and we don't
want to have to cut 'em all down!). Thanks for your advice.

Tish Carpinelli

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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

> First have these trees positively identified as the Black Cherry Trees
that cause these problems. Local vernacular gives trees different names,
and these may or may not be black cherries. Fruiting cherries (Bing, Pie
cherries, and the like) are a completely different species from the Black
Cherry which produces this problem. They are more closely related to
apples.
>
> States have state foresters, just like they have extension agents for
farms, so take advnatage of this resource whenever you have a tree question.
They can also advise you about lumbering etc. In years past, there was often
a bent toward harvesting trees, so they would be quick to advise to cut
things down if they were good lumber trees, but now, at least in our local
experience, they are a bit less likely to encourage logging. Thankfully.
>
> Laurel
>
> Tim & Laurel Shouvlin
> Bluebird Hills Farm CSA & Alpacas
> 3617 Derr Rd. Springfield, Ohio 45503
> www.bluebirdhills.com
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

Congratulations. Proving your herdsire is always great. And it sounds like yours is doing spectacularly.

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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 12:50 AM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

hi guys!
just had to share with someone that my herdsire became a daddy for the first time this week!! It's a beautiful 17+ pound silver gray boy!! He has a white face and chest( I think they call it the tuxcedo style) and white leggings. the rest is a darker silver gray, with a small patch of auburn on his rump (his daddy's color). The dam's owner sold her before the birth, and the new owner has named him sterling. I'm sooo proud of my boy. it looks like sterling will carry on his daddy's great thick crimp too. just had to brag a little. Though it's very hard when the new one doesn't belong to you. thanks for the support guys. it was harder then I thought not to have control over this cria.
have a great day!
marianne
Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
Sumter, SC

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Cherry trees: how toxic?

First have these trees positively identified as the Black Cherry Trees that cause these problems. Local vernacular gives trees different names, and these may or may not be black cherries. Fruiting cherries (Bing, Pie cherries, and the like) are a completely different species from the Black Cherry which produces this problem. They are more closely related to apples.

States have state foresters, just like they have extension agents for farms, so take advnatage of this resource whenever you have a tree question. They can also advise you about lumbering etc. In years past, there was often a bent toward harvesting trees, so they would be quick to advise to cut things down if they were good lumber trees, but now, at least in our local experience, they are a bit less likely to encourage logging. Thankfully.

Laurel

Tim & Laurel Shouvlin
Bluebird Hills Farm CSA & Alpacas
3617 Derr Rd. Springfield, Ohio 45503
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] First time daddy!!

Dear Marianne,

CONGRATULATIONS, and dubilations!

Best Wishes
Amanda
Barton Alpacas
Somerset, England
Marianne Barry wrote:

>hi guys!
> just had to share with someone that my herdsire became a daddy for the first time this week!! It's a beautiful 17+ pound silver gray boy!! He has a white face and chest( I think they call it the tuxcedo style) and white leggings. the rest is a darker silver gray, with a small patch of auburn on his rump (his daddy's color). The dam's owner sold her before the birth, and the new owner has named him sterling. I'm sooo proud of my boy. it looks like sterling will carry on his daddy's great thick crimp too. just had to brag a little. Though it's very hard when the new one doesn't belong to you. thanks for the support guys. it was harder then I thought not to have control over this cria.
> have a great day!
> marianne
> Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
> Sumter, SC
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>Tim & Marianne Barry
>Sonny Haven Alpacas LLC
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