RE: [AlpacaTalk] Skinny girl

 

We fed orchard grass hay and alfalfa hay very generously.  Supplemented ours with camelid feed, calf manna and a cup of grain for gestating and lactating horses.    Our girl is fed by herself so nobody else can steal her food and she is fed twice a day………with hay free fed 24/7. 

Good luck with your girl.

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 

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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Skinny girl

 

 

I have not been on here for quite a while, but saw this thread and saw my girl. I have a girl who is 18. She, at one time, had anaplasmosis (parasite). i got her cleaned up and we keep checking her to make sure she is clean, but I also am having trouble with getting weight on her. She has no cria because I wanted to get her up in weight first as she is a good Mamma.

I am trying some new feed, but am wondering what else I might be able to do to help her.

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] foaming mouth.

 

She is nursing. First time mom.   Cria is verrrry healthy.  Has excessive salivation as well.

Nancy Miller

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Winterville, Ga. 30683

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From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] foaming mouth.

 

I'm so sorry for your loss. Poor little thing.

I don't worry about foaming if they're chewing cud. Some of our alpacas get foam at the sides of the mouth while chewing cud, others don't. I have had crias work up a good foam while chewing milk curds they burp up! 

What concerns me more than foam is liquid dribbling that is clearly not intentional spitting. I have a girl who had this for a while, and she showed no other symptoms of any kind. But there would be pools of green water on the ground where she cushed, and sometimes it would be on the backs of her friends. I treated her with probios and 1/2 tsp of baking soda to neutralize excess acid in the gut. We lost a girl once to a perforated ulcer, and I don't like to take chances on that happening again. This treatment cleared up the green dribbles, in just a few days.

I'm not sure if this will be of any help! But, probios is always helpful. Maybe your girl just needs more feed than others? Or, maybe she's just very slim naturally? I had a girl who was slightly overconditioned, normal height, and only 102 lbs at 2 years old. 

Heather

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On May 4, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Nancy Miller wrote:

Good afternoon.

        Some one mentioned a substance suggested by either Dr Evans or Anderson to give for foaming of mouth. I can not find that email and would like to know whether he said what caused that?   I lost a gorgeous little girl 2 weeks ago and she had that problem.  Waiting on necropsy results.  UGA vets haven't found anything yet.  No abnormal parasites. Eyelids were paper-white.   Died in transfusion reaction. 

        I have a dam who is foaming at mouth and skinny.  Would like to know more about this.
Thanks in advance.

Take care.

Nancy Miller

Crooked Pine Hollow Alpacas

76 Van Lane

Winterville, Ga. 30683

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] foaming mouth.

 

I'm so sorry for your loss. Poor little thing.

I don't worry about foaming if they're chewing cud. Some of our alpacas get foam at the sides of the mouth while chewing cud, others don't. I have had crias work up a good foam while chewing milk curds they burp up! 

What concerns me more than foam is liquid dribbling that is clearly not intentional spitting. I have a girl who had this for a while, and she showed no other symptoms of any kind. But there would be pools of green water on the ground where she cushed, and sometimes it would be on the backs of her friends. I treated her with probios and 1/2 tsp of baking soda to neutralize excess acid in the gut. We lost a girl once to a perforated ulcer, and I don't like to take chances on that happening again. This treatment cleared up the green dribbles, in just a few days.

I'm not sure if this will be of any help! But, probios is always helpful. Maybe your girl just needs more feed than others? Or, maybe she's just very slim naturally? I had a girl who was slightly overconditioned, normal height, and only 102 lbs at 2 years old. 

Heather

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Oregon

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http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com

http://whitelotus.openherd.com

On May 4, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Nancy Miller wrote:

Good afternoon.

        Some one mentioned a substance suggested by either Dr Evans or Anderson to give for foaming of mouth. I can not find that email and would like to know whether he said what caused that?   I lost a gorgeous little girl 2 weeks ago and she had that problem.  Waiting on necropsy results.  UGA vets haven't found anything yet.  No abnormal parasites. Eyelids were paper-white.   Died in transfusion reaction. 

        I have a dam who is foaming at mouth and skinny.  Would like to know more about this.
Thanks in advance.

Take care.

Nancy Miller

Crooked Pine Hollow Alpacas

76 Van Lane

Winterville, Ga. 30683

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] hair donation for the oil spill

 

a non-profit group I will be sending ours to is
A Matter of Trust
www.matteroftrust.org
started in 1989 with the Exon Valdez spill

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[AlpacaTalk] foaming mouth.

 

Good afternoon.

        Some one mentioned a substance suggested by either Dr Evans or Anderson to give for foaming of mouth. I can not find that email and would like to know whether he said what caused that?   I lost a gorgeous little girl 2 weeks ago and she had that problem.  Waiting on necropsy results.  UGA vets haven't found anything yet.  No abnormal parasites. Eyelids were paper-white.   Died in transfusion reaction. 

        I have a dam who is foaming at mouth and skinny.  Would like to know more about this.
Thanks in advance.

Take care.

Nancy Miller

Crooked Pine Hollow Alpacas

76 Van Lane

Winterville, Ga. 30683

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: Age

 

<<<We had a rescue alpaca that had a healthy cria at 20 years old. One
of our herdsires jumped the fence!. We found an old-folks alpaca farm in
WA that took her when she was 21. She was in good health with a body
score of 4.5.>>>

WOW! is all I can say. Pretty darn impressive.
What do/did you feed?
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Introduction and a Question

 

Hi Jacqueline:
Use the same precautions with your alpaca as you would with your horse in the same situation.

The new lush grass will produce gas in the rhuman causing bloat. As with a horse this condition can be extremely dangerous to the animals well being. 

 

By for now, Wayne
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Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Introduction and a Question

Hi All,
My name is Jacqueline.  I'm a long time horse owner but a new alpaca owner.  In addition to 2 shetland wethers I've had for 5 years, I have 2 alpaca wethers that I have owned for about a year.  So I don't know a whole bunch.  I keep the sheep and alpaca together in a dry lot and they get hay twice a day plus a little grain once a day.  One of the alpaca boys came through the winter pretty thin.  He is low man on the totem pole even after the sheep. 

My question is if I turn him out on a little grass, do I need to do it a little at a time to accustom him to the change in diet like you would a horse?  Do alpacas colic?  How long should I leave him out at a time?  The grass is a mix with a lot of brome in it.  But it is very wet since we are having a VERY rainy spring here.

Thanks for any advice,
Jacqueline Jacobson
Lone Jack Missouri
Lone Jack Fiber Mill
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Skinny girl

 

HI Carla,
in the past we have used a top dress product called Lira Gold and also put them on Equine Senior horse feed
Catherine

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Skinny girl

 

I was at the Buckeye show and one of the biggest sellers at the PBS booth was Ultra Calorie 180.

We had an older girl and tried everything, Beet Pulp, DYNE, etc.....

I haven't tried this but JP at PBS loves it and she sells out of it every show.

http://www.pbsanimalhealth.com/details/Ultra-Calorie-180-Gel/316-1.html

Gary

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----- Original Message -----

From: jennymt1402002

To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 7:42 AM

Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Skinny girl

 

I have not been on here for quite a while, but saw this thread and saw my girl. I have a girl who is 18. She, at one time, had anaplasmosis (parasite). i got her cleaned up and we keep checking her to make sure she is clean, but I also am having trouble with getting weight on her. She has no cria because I wanted to get her up in weight first as she is a good Mamma.

I am trying some new feed, but am wondering what else I might be able to do to help her.

Another question, we were digging up some dirt i their pasture and found some grubs. Are these a problem with our alpacas and if so, does someone know how to take care of these without hurting the alpacas?

Carla

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[AlpacaTalk] Skinny girl

 

I have not been on here for quite a while, but saw this thread and saw my girl. I have a girl who is 18. She, at one time, had anaplasmosis (parasite). i got her cleaned up and we keep checking her to make sure she is clean, but I also am having trouble with getting weight on her. She has no cria because I wanted to get her up in weight first as she is a good Mamma.

I am trying some new feed, but am wondering what else I might be able to do to help her.

Another question, we were digging up some dirt i their pasture and found some grubs. Are these a problem with our alpacas and if so, does someone know how to take care of these without hurting the alpacas?

Carla

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