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Sunday, September 01, 2013

RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

It doesn't matter what she is eating,if she is not chewing her cud the rumen is not digesting anything she eats.....I am always cautious and do above/beyond to assure I am making sound decisions.I would hate to must say "O just go ahead wean her" then she starves to death.If it were me I would be sure.Let us know how she does! So sorry about your female.It's hard to loose a friend!
                      Have you done fecals before worming and again after at around about 10 days to make sure your herd is threw this episode?

Tina Travis
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From: Laura Roberts
Sent: ‎9/‎1/‎2013 5:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

Not sure. She does graze and eat grain. I will try bottle tonight along with grain. I am in VA. We have had so much rain. Vet says lots of parasite overloads. So frustrating! This dam was an excellent mom, too. I have mineral out 24/7 so she's got it if she wants it. Our bottle baby is eating well and has been cut back to 3 bottles and is doing well. He is a June 14 Cria, so very close in age.
Thanks for the advice.
Laura

On Sep 1, 2013 6:13 PM, "Tina Travis" <traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Laura,
      Is she chewing her cud? That's the true way to tell if she is able to sustain herself.If she was mine I would offer her  bottles for the next few days.Make sure she gets a taste of the goods.Start weighing her now so you know fast if she is not maintaining her weight.I guess is if she is hungry over the next few days,she will figure the bottle out.I am not a vet but I am an alpaca farmer for many years!Make sure you have minerals out that she can get to, some alfalfa for both cria would be good,along with alpaca/llama pellets...... Good luck!

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
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From: Laura Roberts
Sent: 9/1/2013 4:41 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

We have a June 20 Cria whose dam died yesterday. She is big and seems healthy, but is she old enough to survive without dams milk? I have another Cria born June 14 whose dam dejected and is on bottles of goats milk. This orphan Cria has never been in a bottle and I know it won't be easy. How likely is it she can survive without milk. I have always let moms wean so this is all new - having a baby with no mama.
Barber pole worms and parasites in general are flourishing in our extraordinary overly wet summer!
All have been treated with Cydectin but this dam showed no symptoms. She came running into the barn with all the others to eat and 15 minutes later she was dead! Never got her grain so no  choke.
Laura

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

Not sure. She does graze and eat grain. I will try bottle tonight along with grain. I am in VA. We have had so much rain. Vet says lots of parasite overloads. So frustrating! This dam was an excellent mom, too. I have mineral out 24/7 so she's got it if she wants it. Our bottle baby is eating well and has been cut back to 3 bottles and is doing well. He is a June 14 Cria, so very close in age.
Thanks for the advice.
Laura

On Sep 1, 2013 6:13 PM, "Tina Travis" <traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Laura,
      Is she chewing her cud? That's the true way to tell if she is able to sustain herself.If she was mine I would offer her  bottles for the next few days.Make sure she gets a taste of the goods.Start weighing her now so you know fast if she is not maintaining her weight.I guess is if she is hungry over the next few days,she will figure the bottle out.I am not a vet but I am an alpaca farmer for many years!Make sure you have minerals out that she can get to, some alfalfa for both cria would be good,along with alpaca/llama pellets...... Good luck!

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
From: Laura Roberts
Sent: 9/1/2013 4:41 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

We have a June 20 Cria whose dam died yesterday. She is big and seems healthy, but is she old enough to survive without dams milk? I have another Cria born June 14 whose dam dejected and is on bottles of goats milk. This orphan Cria has never been in a bottle and I know it won't be easy. How likely is it she can survive without milk. I have always let moms wean so this is all new - having a baby with no mama.
Barber pole worms and parasites in general are flourishing in our extraordinary overly wet summer!
All have been treated with Cydectin but this dam showed no symptoms. She came running into the barn with all the others to eat and 15 minutes later she was dead! Never got her grain so no  choke.
Laura

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posted by Chaddo at 3:23 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

I had a 3 month old cria years ago that I had to wean on my vets advice because of the condition of the mom. He did fine. I weighed him daily to make sure he was not losing weight.
Flossie
 
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
From: traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:12:47 -0500
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 
Water is another issue so she doesn't get dehydrated.Sorry you didn't put where you are so I don't know about weather.Gatorade in water for her would also be great,if she will drink it!

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
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traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
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From: Laura Roberts
Sent: ‎9/‎1/‎2013 4:41 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

We have a June 20 Cria whose dam died yesterday. She is big and seems healthy, but is she old enough to survive without dams milk? I have another Cria born June 14 whose dam dejected and is on bottles of goats milk. This orphan Cria has never been in a bottle and I know it won't be easy. How likely is it she can survive without milk. I have always let moms wean so this is all new - having a baby with no mama.
Barber pole worms and parasites in general are flourishing in our extraordinary overly wet summer!
All have been treated with Cydectin but this dam showed no symptoms. She came running into the barn with all the others to eat and 15 minutes later she was dead! Never got her grain so no  choke.
Laura


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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

Water is another issue so she doesn't get dehydrated.Sorry you didn't put where you are so I don't know about weather.Gatorade in water for her would also be great,if she will drink it!

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
From: Laura Roberts
Sent: ‎9/‎1/‎2013 4:41 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

We have a June 20 Cria whose dam died yesterday. She is big and seems healthy, but is she old enough to survive without dams milk? I have another Cria born June 14 whose dam dejected and is on bottles of goats milk. This orphan Cria has never been in a bottle and I know it won't be easy. How likely is it she can survive without milk. I have always let moms wean so this is all new - having a baby with no mama.
Barber pole worms and parasites in general are flourishing in our extraordinary overly wet summer!
All have been treated with Cydectin but this dam showed no symptoms. She came running into the barn with all the others to eat and 15 minutes later she was dead! Never got her grain so no  choke.
Laura

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posted by Chaddo at 3:12 PM 0 comments

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

Laura,
      Is she chewing her cud? That's the true way to tell if she is able to sustain herself.If she was mine I would offer her  bottles for the next few days.Make sure she gets a taste of the goods.Start weighing her now so you know fast if she is not maintaining her weight.I guess is if she is hungry over the next few days,she will figure the bottle out.I am not a vet but I am an alpaca farmer for many years!Make sure you have minerals out that she can get to, some alfalfa for both cria would be good,along with alpaca/llama pellets...... Good luck!

Tina Travis
ElkHorn Alpacas
31655 ElkHorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-456-4838
636-459-8930
FB:Tina Hunt Travis(Elkhorn Alpacas)
traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com
Alpacas are a rare treasure to share
Farm Camp,Pet Sitting,Pony Rides,Chickens & eggs.....
From: Laura Roberts
Sent: ‎9/‎1/‎2013 4:41 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

We have a June 20 Cria whose dam died yesterday. She is big and seems healthy, but is she old enough to survive without dams milk? I have another Cria born June 14 whose dam dejected and is on bottles of goats milk. This orphan Cria has never been in a bottle and I know it won't be easy. How likely is it she can survive without milk. I have always let moms wean so this is all new - having a baby with no mama.
Barber pole worms and parasites in general are flourishing in our extraordinary overly wet summer!
All have been treated with Cydectin but this dam showed no symptoms. She came running into the barn with all the others to eat and 15 minutes later she was dead! Never got her grain so no  choke.
Laura

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posted by Chaddo at 3:12 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Orphan Cria!

 

We have a June 20 Cria whose dam died yesterday. She is big and seems healthy, but is she old enough to survive without dams milk? I have another Cria born June 14 whose dam dejected and is on bottles of goats milk. This orphan Cria has never been in a bottle and I know it won't be easy. How likely is it she can survive without milk. I have always let moms wean so this is all new - having a baby with no mama.
Barber pole worms and parasites in general are flourishing in our extraordinary overly wet summer!
All have been treated with Cydectin but this dam showed no symptoms. She came running into the barn with all the others to eat and 15 minutes later she was dead! Never got her grain so no  choke.
Laura

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posted by Chaddo at 2:41 PM 0 comments