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[AlpacaTalk] THANKS



This has been a very trying time indeed. Tonight he drank more than a gal of water and ate a little. He stood for 5 minutes, all be it with my full assistance, but he stood! All the time he was trying to kick me. On the down side it about wore him out.

I have printed all your emails so I can discuss each with the vet. Thank you all so much. This has been a most stressful day. And you all helped lessen it.

Jim

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca





Hey Jim,
I would be inclined to call your state vet school or have
your vet do so for experience in treating alpacas for poisoning.

As others have posted, it is essential that your fella keeps getting
nutrition and fluids. If you can't get the FIBRevive, then the slurry
mentioned is an excellent choice to keep him hydrated as well as keep his
gut going. You may also want to consider a rumen transfer.

It
may be that your male actually was experiencing polioencephalomalacia
which is basically a thiamine deficiency which has major neurological
effects. The B12 shots are thiamine and this may have turned him around,
but they should probably be continued, as long as he is not back to
normal.

Do keep us posted and best wishes for success with
getting him back to 100%

Laurel

Laurel Shouvlin
Bluebird Hills Farm
Springfield, Ohio
937-206-3936
www.bluebirdhills.com
bluebirdhills@voyager.net

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca (question for Jim)



Do you have Mt Laurel in your area? I'm so sorry, I hope your guy gets
better! Please keep us updated, on his condition. you might want to include
your phone # and email address. I know a lot of people have called me in
a time of urgent need. Have you posted on alpacasite, there are a lot of
knowledgeable people on that site too!
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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca



Hi Jim and welcome to the group! Sorry your introduction is under
these conditions! But that's what we're here for, isn't it?

It's so hard to know what to recommend. The suggestions already
offered are good ones. Sometimes, an alpaca will have some colic or
upset stomach, they'll be off their feed, and sometimes it is very
serious, other times, it was not a big deal at all. And it's very
hard to tell the difference with these guys?

I had a girl last month who lost weight suddenly, went off her feed
suddenly, and couldn't lower her head to graze. I panicked and
thought Tetanus! Well, she had just wrenched her neck trying to get
at the good grass through a panel gate. She was probably was startled
and couldn't get her head out, and pulled... But I was sure she was
circling the drain. Just one visit from our chiropractor fixed her
right up. Her temp was higher than normal, so we gave her a round of
Naxcel just to be sure. She's right as rain, now!

Also last month or so, we had one the boys down. Also seemed to be
dying. He was covered in mud, unresponsive, off his feed suddenly.
Turned out to be *probably* colic, but that can be deadly. He spent
the night at OSU on fluids and whatever else they do, and he's fine.
Back with the bossy boys now.

Please keep us posted!

Heather

On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Jim wrote:

>
>
> Yesterday when I got home around 4pm my new alpaca 4yo (got him
> about 1 month ago) was acting weird laying by himself in the
> pasture away from the girls. Normally he gets up and runs when I
> come near him. He didn't move and when he tried to get up he just
> could not stand. He was wormed last week and is up to date on all
> of his shots.
>
> So I called the vet and so far this is what has happened
>
> The vet felt he had all the symptoms of Mt. Laurel poisoning.
> Symptoms:
> lithargic
> beans for stools but covered in slime
> not able to stand
> body temp 96
> slow heart rate and slight arrythmmia(sp?)
>
> Treatment:
> activated Charcoal and the new clay stuff that act as absorbing
> compound
> Several huge doses of MOM
> we have give alot of subQ fluids
> he has had 2 Vitamin B12 shots,
> 1 cortisone shot
> 1 3day antibiotic shot
> 3 shots of atropine
>
> Now:
> He is more alert.
> has eaten a few bites of alpaca feed
> still can seem to stand but is shifting his body more and more.
> Temp is 97.1
> the vet called and said his glucose is 650
>
> HELP is there anything else I should be doing I really love his guy.
>
> Jim
>
>
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca



Jim,
Try www.oxbowanimalhealth.com See if you can find a retail store or vet in your area by zipcode. You want FibRevive.
Good Luck!
Jill
Saxonburg, PA

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca

Thank you all for your concern and suggestions. I live in the NE Georgia Mountain 50 north of Atlanta. If that helps anyone.

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca



Jim
You might want to post your situation on the SeAA website as well. It
will go to breeders in the SE, including GA. The link is
www.SeAlpaca.org


Unfortunately, I don't know any more to tell you than has already been
said. I know Dr Ruthann reads this and is great about getting back, as
are several other vets that follow this.

Jacki Robert
Alpaca Creek Farm
1745 Saundersville Road, Hendersonville, TN 37075
Office - 615.826.9380
Cell - 615.828.6419
www.AlpacaCreekFarm.com <http://www.alpacacreekfarm.com/>


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From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:47 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca

Thank you all for your concern and suggestions. I live in the NE Georgia
Mountain 50 north of Atlanta. If that helps anyone.

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[AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca



Thank you all for your concern and suggestions. I live in the NE Georgia Mountain 50 north of Atlanta. If that helps anyone.

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca



Jim,
Where do you live. If you let us know, maybe someone on the list will live near you and could share some fibrevive.
Good luck,
Jill
Saxonburg, PA

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca

Yesterday when I got home around 4pm my new alpaca 4yo (got him about 1 month ago) was acting weird laying by himself in the pasture away from the girls. Normally he gets up and runs when I come near him. He didn't move and when he tried to get up he just could not stand. He was wormed last week and is up to date on all of his shots.

So I called the vet and so far this is what has happened

The vet felt he had all the symptoms of Mt. Laurel poisoning.
Symptoms:
lithargic
beans for stools but covered in slime
not able to stand
body temp 96
slow heart rate and slight arrythmmia(sp?)

Treatment:
activated Charcoal and the new clay stuff that act as absorbing compound
Several huge doses of MOM
we have give alot of subQ fluids
he has had 2 Vitamin B12 shots,
1 cortisone shot
1 3day antibiotic shot
3 shots of atropine

Now:
He is more alert.
has eaten a few bites of alpaca feed
still can seem to stand but is shifting his body more and more.
Temp is 97.1
the vet called and said his glucose is 650

HELP is there anything else I should be doing I really love his guy.

Jim

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca



Also want to add that giving him probiotics probably won't hurt. He needs the good bacteria in his gut for digestion and probios is sold at about every TSC.

Susan

Susan Forman
Dewey Morning Alpacas
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Louie, and Dewey!

----- Original Message -----
From: Susan Forman
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca

Jim:
I really don't know much about anything, but just wanted to say that if he isn't eating, he needs to eat. His rumen needs to keep working or you'll end up with some different problems that can be very serious. It sounds like he's been cleaned out, so he needs food. Do you have access to any Fibrevive? That is kind of a powder that you can make into a slurry and slowly and carefully syringe into him. He also needs water that the moisture from the fibrevive will give him. If that isn't available, if you can pulverize some hay, alfalfa and pellets and make that into a slurry, it probably would do him some good, too. I imagine any food will help with the elevated blood sugar, but especially proteins seem to be helpful there from some information I've read recently. I do hope that a vet or someone more knowledgeable than me chimes in on this, but I'd really try to get something in him ASAP for starters. What is your vet saying at this point?

Good luck and let us know what happens.

Susan

Susan Forman
Dewey Morning Alpacas
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Louie, and Dewey!

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Sick alpaca

Yesterday when I got home around 4pm my new alpaca 4yo (got him about 1 month ago) was acting weird laying by himself in the pasture away from the girls. Normally he gets up and runs when I come near him. He didn't move and when he tried to get up he just could not stand. He was wormed last week and is up to date on all of his shots.

So I called the vet and so far this is what has happened

The vet felt he had all the symptoms of Mt. Laurel poisoning.
Symptoms:
lithargic
beans for stools but covered in slime
not able to stand
body temp 96
slow heart rate and slight arrythmmia(sp?)

Treatment:
activated Charcoal and the new clay stuff that act as absorbing compound
Several huge doses of MOM
we have give alot of subQ fluids
he has had 2 Vitamin B12 shots,
1 cortisone shot
1 3day antibiotic shot
3 shots of atropine

Now:
He is more alert.
has eaten a few bites of alpaca feed
still can seem to stand but is shifting his body more and more.
Temp is 97.1
the vet called and said his glucose is 650

HELP is there anything else I should be doing I really love his guy.

Jim

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