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Thursday, November 05, 2009

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 

When alpaca crias are worth so much money, I don't think it is really feasible to take milk away from them.  Milk cows are bred each year and their babies are taken away right after birth in order to provide humans who don't have rumens and can't digest the casein properly with cows milk.  I try to avoid it.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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posted by Chaddo at 1:50 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 

Goats and sheep that have not been handled don't like their udders touched either.  It's a training process and starts before the babies are born, ideally.  Most mammals produce more milk in response to having more demand for it, and I'm pretty sure cows, goats and all those who are milked have been bred for more genetic disposition for milk.  It's about selection.  Would it be worth it?  A half gallon of goat milk from the breeds that produce high butterfat and high protein, yeilds a pound of cheese.  Does anyone know butterfat or protein of alpaca milk?

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--- On Thu, 11/5/09, mary meacher <memeacher@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: mary meacher <memeacher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 2:58 PM



I have had to milk alpacas in the past for a variety of reasons. It is not as easy as task as I assume sheep and goats would be. alpacas are pretty antsy animals and do NOT like having the udders or any other part of their under carriage touched by us two-leggers. I also wonder if the would produce as much milk as would be needed for cheese since you could only do it for a few months. They would need time to regenerate their colustrum for the next cria.
 
However, they do milk camels and I hear that camel milk, and the by products are pretty tasty. There's a farm out in CA that I know of that touts it's camels the milk it sells.
 
Mary
 
    The turning toward happiness as a valid goal and the conscious decision to seek happiness in a systematic manner can profoundly change the rest of our lives.   — Dalai Lama
Mary E. Meacher
Walnut Valley Alpacas
96 Ashdown Road
Ballston Lake, New York
Cell: 518.878.1061
 


From: Ellie Winslow <winslowellie@yahoo.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:43:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 
And here's a link to a "milking machine" that might be suitable for alpacas...no I have no interest in it other than I think it's going to come in useful sometimes for some situations!
 
http://beyondthesidewalk.com/
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--- On Thu, 11/5/09, CARLA0@aol.com <CARLA0@aol.com> wrote:

From: CARLA0@aol.com <CARLA0@aol.com>
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 2:29 PM



Here comes another one of my crazy ideas...today I saw on Martha Stewart cheese made from goats, cows..and special cheese from sheep! The sheep is very expensive as it can only be made for a few months out of a year and they usually always have twin lambs.....is it possible that cheese could be made from Alpaca's? Maybe with all the postings about problems with selling fiber, shows, and the possibility of eating them (yuck), this could be something that could be done and make a good product from...
Just a thought.
Carla Martin
Bedrock Acres
Greenville SC 29609
 






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posted by Chaddo at 1:10 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 

I have had to milk alpacas in the past for a variety of reasons. It is not as easy as task as I assume sheep and goats would be. alpacas are pretty antsy animals and do NOT like having the udders or any other part of their under carriage touched by us two-leggers. I also wonder if the would produce as much milk as would be needed for cheese since you could only do it for a few months. They would need time to regenerate their colustrum for the next cria.
 
However, they do milk camels and I hear that camel milk, and the by products are pretty tasty. There's a farm out in CA that I know of that touts it's camels the milk it sells.
 
Mary
 
    The turning toward happiness as a valid goal and the conscious decision to seek happiness in a systematic manner can profoundly change the rest of our lives.   — Dalai Lama
Mary E. Meacher
Walnut Valley Alpacas
96 Ashdown Road
Ballston Lake, New York
Cell: 518.878.1061
 


From: Ellie Winslow <winslowellie@yahoo.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:43:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 

And here's a link to a "milking machine" that might be suitable for alpacas...no I have no interest in it other than I think it's going to come in useful sometimes for some situations!
 
http://beyondthesidewalk.com/
Marketing Workshops, Books, blog/free newsletter & consulting:
Growing Your Rural Business: From the Inside Out
Marketing Farm Products: and How to Thrive Beyond the Sidewalk
Economy Proofing Rural Business
Making Money With Goats


--- On Thu, 11/5/09, CARLA0@aol.com <CARLA0@aol.com> wrote:

From: CARLA0@aol.com <CARLA0@aol.com>
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 2:29 PM



Here comes another one of my crazy ideas...today I saw on Martha Stewart cheese made from goats, cows..and special cheese from sheep! The sheep is very expensive as it can only be made for a few months out of a year and they usually always have twin lambs.....is it possible that cheese could be made from Alpaca's? Maybe with all the postings about problems with selling fiber, shows, and the possibility of eating them (yuck), this could be something that could be done and make a good product from...
Just a thought.
Carla Martin
Bedrock Acres
Greenville SC 29609
 



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posted by Chaddo at 12:58 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 

And here's a link to a "milking machine" that might be suitable for alpacas...no I have no interest in it other than I think it's going to come in useful sometimes for some situations!
 
Marketing Workshops, Books, blog/free newsletter & consulting:
Growing Your Rural Business: From the Inside Out
Marketing Farm Products: and How to Thrive Beyond the Sidewalk
Economy Proofing Rural Business
Making Money With Goats


--- On Thu, 11/5/09, CARLA0@aol.com <CARLA0@aol.com> wrote:

From: CARLA0@aol.com <CARLA0@aol.com>
Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 2:29 PM



Here comes another one of my crazy ideas...today I saw on Martha Stewart cheese made from goats, cows..and special cheese from sheep! The sheep is very expensive as it can only be made for a few months out of a year and they usually always have twin lambs.....is it possible that cheese could be made from Alpaca's? Maybe with all the postings about problems with selling fiber, shows, and the possibility of eating them (yuck), this could be something that could be done and make a good product from...
Just a thought.
Carla Martin
Bedrock Acres
Greenville SC 29609
 



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posted by Chaddo at 12:43 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] Alpaca Cheese?

 

Here comes another one of my crazy ideas...today I saw on Martha Stewart cheese made from goats, cows..and special cheese from sheep! The sheep is very expensive as it can only be made for a few months out of a year and they usually always have twin lambs.....is it possible that cheese could be made from Alpaca's? Maybe with all the postings about problems with selling fiber, shows, and the possibility of eating them (yuck), this could be something that could be done and make a good product from...
Just a thought.
Carla Martin
Bedrock Acres
Greenville SC 29609
 

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posted by Chaddo at 12:29 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: fencing/gates

 

<<< Janice,
You could avoid mixing concrete by just using those preformed
pavers.

Laurel>>>

The concrete blocks and the pavers both good ideas. I think I've come
up with an easier, even cheaper solution. I am going to cut some of the
cattle panels I have to gate width and lay them under the gates. Easy,
breezy and I will make them long enough to discourage digging at the
gates.....in other words they will extend a bit to the inside of the
gate and I will anchor with earth staples (made out of wire hangers).
And I will take pieces of old field fencing and lay down in the low
places where the fence doesn't reach the ground. The dogs have not
discovered those places yet but I figure it is only a matter of time.
So far I have just been piling brush up in those areas as a temp
solution till I could figure out what to do. I person on the LGD list
wrote that this is what she did and over time the grass grows up thru
and anchors them in place; stops all attempts to dig out these places.

I am not worried about my husband shooting the dogs, Robin, but I AM
worried about the neighbors shooting them without realizing they are LGD
and will not harm their livestock. I just bought them flourescent
collars and had tags with phone 3 made last night.

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. I am headed out right now
to get on this project. It is a beautiful day.....for a change.

Janice, in wet muddy NW GA

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posted by Chaddo at 9:21 AM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: fencing/gates

 

<<<No we did not bury any of it except under gates. We just wove(sp) it
in the fence so it would stay put about 2 feet off the ground. I did
the entire property in about 3 hours. >>>

Ahhh, thanks Robin, now I get it :-). Sounds like a creative solution,
but still too pricey for me, tho I like this idea a lot more than
running hot wire all around the pasture.
Janice

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posted by Chaddo at 9:14 AM 0 comments