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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Update on missing cria [1 Attachment]

 
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Thank you Heather, but this is not me.
This farm is about 20 miles from me though.

At first he thought the cria was stolen so I brought the story to this
group hoping
to find it. Since then I have been trying to keep updating the group.

Lysa

On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

> This is the first I've seen on this! Was it your cria, Lysa? I'm so
> sorry. Poor baby.
>
> Heather
>
> On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:
>
> > I apologize, I read that too fast.
> > Not dead yet.
> >
> > Lysa
> > On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:
> >
> >> As you know it was determined to be a bear.
> >> Here is the latest. Seems the bear has been killed.
> >>
> >> http://www.mcall.com/news/all-alpaca-bear-111109-cn,0,7112182.story
> >>
> >> Lysa Grant
> >> Pocopacas in the Poconos
> >> Jim Thorpe, PA 18229
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Lysa Grant
> > Pocopacas in the Poconos
> > Jim Thorpe, PA 18229
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Update on missing cria

 

This is the first I've seen on this! Was it your cria, Lysa? I'm so
sorry. Poor baby.

Heather

On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:

> I apologize, I read that too fast.
> Not dead yet.
>
> Lysa
> On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:
>
>> As you know it was determined to be a bear.
>> Here is the latest. Seems the bear has been killed.
>>
>> http://www.mcall.com/news/all-alpaca-bear-111109-cn,0,7112182.story
>>
>> Lysa Grant
>> Pocopacas in the Poconos
>> Jim Thorpe, PA 18229
>>
>>
>>
>
> Lysa Grant
> Pocopacas in the Poconos
> Jim Thorpe, PA 18229
>
>

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] RE: female acting funny/worming

 

Janice,

If you keep your male on a halter and lead, just for spit testing, there won't be a breeding unless you allow it. If she spits, kicks, and runs, she's probably pregnant. If she kushes, she's probably not pregnant but then you can lead the male away and not have a breeding right now. 

I believe Safeguard is safe at all times, and those in M-worm country worm with Ivomec injections each and every month, pregnant or not. Valbazen is the one not generally indicated during pregnancy, but we had to use it for liver flukes one year and had no problems from it.

Heather


On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:50 PM, houckj@aol.com wrote:

<<< not a problem giving her the ivomec....do it.

I would also expose her to your male and check her behavior. Then
you'll know if she's even pregnant. The behavior you described could also
have just been a belly ache. Behavior test her and you'll have a better
idea of what's going on.

If she spits off check her again in about 5 days. If she spits off
both times, she's probably pregnant and I'd wait till she delivers to give
safeguard. Is her cria from last year still nursing? Are you certain
she's not sneaking? If she's nursing and the dam is pregnant again,
you'll need to separate them immediately so that the new cria will get 
colostrum
when it's born.

Take Care,

Carolyn Marquette,>>>

Thanks Carolyn! Excellent suggestions, and yes Merry Morning is still 
nursing on occ, tho mom for the most part for stand still for it any 
more, she does still manage to get a slurp now and then. I had not 
considered the implications to colostrum production. I had not really 
even considered pregnancy a possibility until this behaviour the other 
night.
I will put the female with the male and watch to see what 
happens.....altho I do *not* want a mating this time of year, altho Nov 
is usually quite pleasant here so I guess it wouldn't be terrible. 
Merry was born end of Dec last year and she was no trouble, had no 
problems at all - a first for us!

Thanks for the advice, always appreciated. And i will get them 
ivermec'd tomorrow too icky out there today; and will hold off on the 
Safeguard.
So ivermec is safe right up to delivery? If she gets an injection now, 
she will be due for another in a month, which according to the calendar 
should be about 2 -4 wks before due date....will that one be ok as 
well? No safeguard until after delivery?

Warmly, Janice


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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Update on missing cria

I apologize, I read that too fast.
Not dead yet.

Lysa
On Nov 11, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:

> As you know it was determined to be a bear.
> Here is the latest. Seems the bear has been killed.
>
> http://www.mcall.com/news/all-alpaca-bear-111109-cn,0,7112182.story
>
> Lysa Grant
> Pocopacas in the Poconos
> Jim Thorpe, PA 18229
>
>
>

Lysa Grant
Pocopacas in the Poconos
Jim Thorpe, PA 18229

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[AlpacaTalk] Update on missing cria

 

As you know it was determined to be a bear.
Here is the latest. Seems the bear has been killed.

http://www.mcall.com/news/all-alpaca-bear-111109-cn,0,7112182.story

Lysa Grant
Pocopacas in the Poconos
Jim Thorpe, PA 18229

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: female acting funny

 

<<<I hope all is well with your girl but it might be worth it to have
her checked for a torsion or a possible breach this appears to be too
close to her due day for it to be something you should blow-off. - Which
I know you are not.- On the good side the cria may have been turning
making ready for an exit. Keep checking her Temperature and making sure
she is Drinking and Eatting but most of all do what you are doing ->
watching for signs that she is "Just a little, Off."

You said the male was taken out of the field last December -- When was
he put in?
She could be one of the early breedings .

Good luck.
Blackpearlfarm???

I don't have a vet, so while not blowing it off at all, I have no way to
have her checked for torsion or breach. Since she ate soon after the up
and down routine, and has been normal ever since I am hoping/assuming
that means whatever was going on has righted itself.

Does temp change when labor is imminent?

I miswrote the statement about the male - he has been separated since
mid Jan, after a few matings were noted. In my notes "mating Jan 11
and few more after that before separating mid Jan"). Their cria was
born very end of Dec. So if they took the conception was right at
early-mid Jan, so looking for another late Dec, early Jan cria, tho I
will start pacing by early Dec and start fretting by mid Dec.

I am mostly concerned about the young pyr brothers that have been in the
pasture with the alpacas since they were about 3 1/2 mos. Had to put
them to work way early due to coyote pressure. They have been great
with the pacas. They are now 6 1/2 mos and *huge*; sweet pups tho they
are starting to fight ferociously - sib brothers. They are scheduled
for their neutering this Fri which I hope will abate the awful
fighting. They cannot yet be trusted with the chickens/ducks/guineas
so they go in pen (in pasture) in daytime and come out to the full
pasture when birds go to bed at night. I have no idea how they will
react to a cria - esp if it has problems and is born early before they
are put in their pen for the day. I can't keep them penned up all night
waiting for a cria (one night I made them stay in pen all night as
punishment for "escaping". The very next night the coyotes were
back.....I haven't heard them at all since pyrs have been out there. So
cria is in more danger from coyote if pyrs are penned up. All I can do
I suppose is hope for the best and hope cria waits till after dogs are
penned up to join us. If I see "funny" behavior on the part of the
female I can put her up in barn for the night as I did the other night;
and that is what I hope will happen, but I have never before had any
forewarnings that a cria is imminent.

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[AlpacaTalk] RE: female acting funny/worming

 

<<< not a problem giving her the ivomec....do it.

I would also expose her to your male and check her behavior. Then
you'll know if she's even pregnant. The behavior you described could also
have just been a belly ache. Behavior test her and you'll have a better
idea of what's going on.

If she spits off check her again in about 5 days. If she spits off
both times, she's probably pregnant and I'd wait till she delivers to give
safeguard. Is her cria from last year still nursing? Are you certain
she's not sneaking? If she's nursing and the dam is pregnant again,
you'll need to separate them immediately so that the new cria will get
colostrum
when it's born.

Take Care,

Carolyn Marquette,>>>

Thanks Carolyn! Excellent suggestions, and yes Merry Morning is still
nursing on occ, tho mom for the most part for stand still for it any
more, she does still manage to get a slurp now and then. I had not
considered the implications to colostrum production. I had not really
even considered pregnancy a possibility until this behaviour the other
night.
I will put the female with the male and watch to see what
happens.....altho I do *not* want a mating this time of year, altho Nov
is usually quite pleasant here so I guess it wouldn't be terrible.
Merry was born end of Dec last year and she was no trouble, had no
problems at all - a first for us!

Thanks for the advice, always appreciated. And i will get them
ivermec'd tomorrow too icky out there today; and will hold off on the
Safeguard.
So ivermec is safe right up to delivery? If she gets an injection now,
she will be due for another in a month, which according to the calendar
should be about 2 -4 wks before due date....will that one be ok as
well? No safeguard until after delivery?

Warmly, Janice

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RE: [AlpacaTalk] Re: need to have fiber processed, need suggestions

 

            Unless I misunderstood, this method of condensing the fiber in the bag is for shipping it to the mill, not storage.  I store mine in “breathable bags” until I am ready to either ship or carry to the mill.  I believe the fiber should not be stored in an airtight container for long periods of time.

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LunarStruck@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:21 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: need to have fiber processed, need suggestions

 

 

Laurel - that's the first I've ever heard of removing the air from fiber bags and storing them that way.  Is that because of moths?  I always poke holes in my bags to allow them to breathe - should I not be doing that?  Thanks for any tips,

 

SUSAN OLSON

Alpaca Loco

Riverside, CA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: need to have fiber processed, need suggestions

 

Laurel - that's the first I've ever heard of removing the air from fiber bags and storing them that way.  Is that because of moths?  I always poke holes in my bags to allow them to breathe - should I not be doing that?  Thanks for any tips,
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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posted by Chaddo at 5:21 AM 0 comments