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Friday, April 30, 2010

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

              We had a very cold winter stretching my blanket supply to the limit for extended amounts of time which is not normal for us.The A/C is in my trailer and if you ever get stuck in traffic in the middle of summer the A/C could save your alpacas from heat stress.There are many ways to do any one thing and still come out with a very positive outcome.Enough said there is room for all of us in this world and our diffrent views too. Have a nice weekend!!
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO.63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas.com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 10:11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

Upsets me? Sorry, I don't think I said I was upset.


I just think the practice is unsound. In my mind, putting a blanket on an animal is much more sensible and easier than air conditioning and other cooling practices over and above what we generally do for huacayas in the warm months. 


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


    Sorry it upsets you so much but it is all about management of your herd.Suri's get cold in the winter here and I worry more about the suri's that have been shorn a couple times and the lack of fleece to keep them warm for the winter.
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:59:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

I understand the "show expectation" , however, I think it's ridiculous and really a very bad thing. I cannot understand why the show division supports this practice.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


        Haucayas always,Show suris it is very excepted that they go 2 yrs.as long as you manage them correctly during hot times--Belly shearing goes along way in keeping suris
cool.Been doing it this way for 11 yrs never had heat stress with any of my Pacas. I would never do that with a huacaya.I believe she will end up getting a full cut.My alpacas have shade,water, fans,and soaker hoses to lay on in the heat of the day.I am a full time rancher so I am always here to monitor my animals during the hot times and the very cold times.My trailer has A/C so travel to shows is not an issue either.

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

It's my opinion that all alpacas, suri or huacaya, should have full body shearing done each and every year.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


       I have both Huacaya and Suri alpacas have been in the business lots of years---this year one of my most promising show Suri girls ended up with a belly shear gone way wrong!!  I am not sure if I should now have her completely shorn or leave it and see if it grows out to correct it's self by fall,or cut on the perfect side to even it out with messy side??  Anyone know what might work out best.My worst fear is shear her completely but I thought someone might have some good advice?Thanks, T

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!










  

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

               Thank you!!  It has taken many years to get to this point!! Seems like there is always a new project to do.Dream big and be patient.I have gone threw 3 trailers to get up to what I have now.Always moving up to the next level.Just like breeding your herd up.I need a new tractor and brush hog so I am on to my next dream too.Have a great weekend!!!

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO.63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas.com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Wendy Edwards <wendy.edwards@shaw.ca>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 10:04:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 



hi Tina - i can't give you the advice you're seeking as i don't have suri's - but just wanted to tell you your farm set-up sounds like a dream come true - something for me to aim for
Good luck with the bad shearing job
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC, Canada
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

    Sorry it upsets you so much but it is all about management of your herd.Suri's get cold in the winter here and I worry more about the suri's that have been shorn a couple times and the lack of fleece to keep them warm for the winter.
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:59:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

I understand the "show expectation" , however, I think it's ridiculous and really a very bad thing. I cannot understand why the show division supports this practice.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


        Haucayas always,Show suris it is very excepted that they go 2 yrs.as long as you manage them correctly during hot times--Belly shearing goes along way in keeping suris
cool.Been doing it this way for 11 yrs never had heat stress with any of my Pacas. I would never do that with a huacaya.I believe she will end up getting a full cut.My alpacas have shade,water, fans,and soaker hoses to lay on in the heat of the day.I am a full time rancher so I am always here to monitor my animals during the hot times and the very cold times.My trailer has A/C so travel to shows is not an issue either.

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

It's my opinion that all alpacas, suri or huacaya, should have full body shearing done each and every year.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


       I have both Huacaya and Suri alpacas have been in the business lots of years---this year one of my most promising show Suri girls ended up with a belly shear gone way wrong!!  I am not sure if I should now have her completely shorn or leave it and see if it grows out to correct it's self by fall,or cut on the perfect side to even it out with messy side??  Anyone know what might work out best.My worst fear is shear her completely but I thought someone might have some good advice?Thanks, T

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!









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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

Upsets me? Sorry, I don't think I said I was upset.


I just think the practice is unsound. In my mind, putting a blanket on an animal is much more sensible and easier than air conditioning and other cooling practices over and above what we generally do for huacayas in the warm months. 


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


    Sorry it upsets you so much but it is all about management of your herd.Suri's get cold in the winter here and I worry more about the suri's that have been shorn a couple times and the lack of fleece to keep them warm for the winter.
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO.63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas.com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:59:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

I understand the "show expectation" , however, I think it's ridiculous and really a very bad thing. I cannot understand why the show division supports this practice.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


        Haucayas always,Show suris it is very excepted that they go 2 yrs.as long as you manage them correctly during hot times--Belly shearing goes along way in keeping suris
cool.Been doing it this way for 11 yrs never had heat stress with any of my Pacas. I would never do that with a huacaya.I believe she will end up getting a full cut.My alpacas have shade,water, fans,and soaker hoses to lay on in the heat of the day.I am a full time rancher so I am always here to monitor my animals during the hot times and the very cold times.My trailer has A/C so travel to shows is not an issue either.

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

It's my opinion that all alpacas, suri or huacaya, should have full body shearing done each and every year.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


       I have both Huacaya and Suri alpacas have been in the business lots of years---this year one of my most promising show Suri girls ended up with a belly shear gone way wrong!!  I am not sure if I should now have her completely shorn or leave it and see if it grows out to correct it's self by fall,or cut on the perfect side to even it out with messy side??  Anyone know what might work out best.My worst fear is shear her completely but I thought someone might have some good advice?Thanks, T

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!










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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 



hi Tina - i can't give you the advice you're seeking as i don't have suri's - but just wanted to tell you your farm set-up sounds like a dream come true - something for me to aim for
Good luck with the bad shearing job
Wendy
DreamWeaver Alpacas
BC, Canada
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

    Sorry it upsets you so much but it is all about management of your herd.Suri's get cold in the winter here and I worry more about the suri's that have been shorn a couple times and the lack of fleece to keep them warm for the winter.
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO.63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas.com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:59:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

I understand the "show expectation" , however, I think it's ridiculous and really a very bad thing. I cannot understand why the show division supports this practice.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


        Haucayas always,Show suris it is very excepted that they go 2 yrs.as long as you manage them correctly during hot times--Belly shearing goes along way in keeping suris
cool.Been doing it this way for 11 yrs never had heat stress with any of my Pacas. I would never do that with a huacaya.I believe she will end up getting a full cut.My alpacas have shade,water, fans,and soaker hoses to lay on in the heat of the day.I am a full time rancher so I am always here to monitor my animals during the hot times and the very cold times.My trailer has A/C so travel to shows is not an issue either.

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

It's my opinion that all alpacas, suri or huacaya, should have full body shearing done each and every year.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


       I have both Huacaya and Suri alpacas have been in the business lots of years---this year one of my most promising show Suri girls ended up with a belly shear gone way wrong!!  I am not sure if I should now have her completely shorn or leave it and see if it grows out to correct it's self by fall,or cut on the perfect side to even it out with messy side??  Anyone know what might work out best.My worst fear is shear her completely but I thought someone might have some good advice?Thanks, T

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!








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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

    Sorry it upsets you so much but it is all about management of your herd.Suri's get cold in the winter here and I worry more about the suri's that have been shorn a couple times and the lack of fleece to keep them warm for the winter.
 

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO.63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpacas@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas.com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:59:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

I understand the "show expectation" , however, I think it's ridiculous and really a very bad thing. I cannot understand why the show division supports this practice.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


        Haucayas always,Show suris it is very excepted that they go 2 yrs.as long as you manage them correctly during hot times--Belly shearing goes along way in keeping suris
cool.Been doing it this way for 11 yrs never had heat stress with any of my Pacas. I would never do that with a huacaya.I believe she will end up getting a full cut.My alpacas have shade,water, fans,and soaker hoses to lay on in the heat of the day.I am a full time rancher so I am always here to monitor my animals during the hot times and the very cold times.My trailer has A/C so travel to shows is not an issue either.

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!




From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail. com>
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 8:34:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Advice

 

It's my opinion that all alpacas, suri or huacaya, should have full body shearing done each and every year.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Tina Travis wrote:


       I have both Huacaya and Suri alpacas have been in the business lots of years---this year one of my most promising show Suri girls ended up with a belly shear gone way wrong!!  I am not sure if I should now have her completely shorn or leave it and see if it grows out to correct it's self by fall,or cut on the perfect side to even it out with messy side??  Anyone know what might work out best.My worst fear is shear her completely but I thought someone might have some good advice?Thanks, T

Tina Travis  

Elkhorn Alpacas

31655 Elkhorn Glen

Warrenton,MO. 63383

636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

traviselkhornalpaca s@yahoo.com

www.elkhornalpacas. com

 Alpacas are a rare treasure,

 one that I like to share!!!!








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