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Saturday, March 06, 2010

RE: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

Hi Robin, Heather…

 

I say go for it.. Set high standards of public disclosure for your BOD and officials and hold them to it.  Require a transparent election.  Ask for and get important relationships out in public before you vote.

 

Require that your BOD meet the standards of ethics set by other large public companies. 

Require that the BOD not interfere in any with the Nominating Committee autonomy or communications with AOBA voting membership.

 

You have every right to require high standards and ethics.

 

Ask if any of the candidates have any relationships with AOBA by contract, for instance..

 

Ask if the candidates own alpacas or have owned them in the recent past.

 

Ask them if they are convicted of any felonies.

 

After all, wouldn't you like to know the answers to those questions BEFORE they are on the AOBA board?

 

Allison Moss-Fritch

 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard & Robin Vasquez
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 3:57 PM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

 

We need AOBA to get their act together and support us in the way the members need.  We do not need to come apart at the seams.  A strong focused AOBA would be a tremendous asset.

Robin 

Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC

325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020

Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911

 

       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com

                          LTA

 



--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 3:18 PM

 

There are options to AOBA certified shows. Of course, there's always ALSA, but then we have the International thing, which I have very little knowledge of, except the IAO which is always a great success as far as I know, and draws the best of the best in the country.

 

 

Heather

 

Heather Zeleny

White Lotus Alpacas

Oregon

 

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

 

On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:14 PM, barngirrl@aol. com wrote:



In a message dated 3/6/2010 9:11:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jpowers@bentstarpro ject.org writes:

On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:



Does anyone besides me think things are gett ing worse at AOBA? 

I think things are much worse.  I think we should start having non-AOBA-affiliated shows.

 

SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco

Riverside, CA

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

We need AOBA to get their act together and support us in the way the members need.  We do not need to come apart at the seams.  A strong focused AOBA would be a tremendous asset.
Robin 

Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Heather Zeleny <alpacatalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 3:18 PM

 
There are options to AOBA certified shows. Of course, there's always ALSA, but then we have the International thing, which I have very little knowledge of, except the IAO which is always a great success as far as I know, and draws the best of the best in the country.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:14 PM, barngirrl@aol. com wrote:

In a message dated 3/6/2010 9:11:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jpowers@bentstarpro ject.org writes:
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are gett ing worse at AOBA? 
I think things are much worse.  I think we should start having non-AOBA-affiliated shows.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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posted by Chaddo at 3:56 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

I really should look at the by-laws....my guess is there's a difference of interpretation in what they say re: elections.....but I sure don't know. I just hope that what wins out is honesty. I guess I'm becoming more and more dis-illusion...wish I was psychic since I think there's a lot at stake.....and even though there are problems in/with the organization I hope they can be worked out. We NEED a strong National Org. to keep us united, but it seems like all I'm seeing over the past few years is a lot falling apart...it's a shame.
 
Susan
 
Susan Forman
Dewey Morning Alpacas
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Louie, and Dewey!
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I have been less than impressed with the way AOBA has ben run for several years now. 


Indeed, we had some questionable things going on in a local affiliate, so much so that 3/5ths of the board resigned, then another 5th who was a new board member and actually the one asking questions resigned in another month or so. Most of the members have not renewed their membership. The new board does not meet the requirements of the org's bylaws.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Richard & Robin Vasquez wrote:


It is really sad that at a time we need AOBA and ARI to pull together more than ever we still seem to have problems. 
  I know it is very hard to have people with different opinions and different personalities work together but they should think of the members and put their own feelings aside. 
  I don't know what caused this mess but election  was so good and smooth last time.  Why change what worked before?  No need to reinvent the wheel. The map and groundwork was already established.  
 This is the reason I don't volunteer for leadership and committees.  I like  many do not have the tolerance for it.
Robin 


 
Richard and Robin Vasquez 
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue 
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jennifer Powers <jpowers@bentstarproject.org> wrote:

From: Jennifer Powers <jpowers@bentstarproject.org>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 9:11 AM

 
I wouldn't say worse. I would say remaining the same.
AOBA simply cannot get out of it's own way.

Blue Skies
Jennifer Powers
Aero Ranch Suri Alpacas

Browns Valley, CA


On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are getting worse at AOBA? 


Letter to all AOBA Board of Director Candidates and Members, 

The AOBA Nominating Committee and the AOBA Inspector of Elections have resigned, effective Friday, March 5, from their respective positions in the 2010 AOBA election process. As with all volunteers we thank them for their time, effort and the diligence with which they conducted their duties. 

The Board has a responsibility to ensure that the provisions of the By-Laws are followed and that the governance of the organization occurs within that framework. To that end we are consulting with legal counsel to determine the steps required to enable the annual election to be accomplished in the required manner and time frame. 

As we develop and execute the necessary procedures over the next week, we will ensure that all candidates and members are fully informed as things unfold. 

We regret this delay, and we acknowledge our responsibility to the members of AOBA (and the AOBA By-Laws) to make sure the election moves forward in accordance with our By-Laws. We remain committed to completing this process quickly and keeping you informed. 

For, and on behalf, of the Board

Not only this latest shocking event, but do you remember last year when AOBA board members were resigning every time you turned around? And letting Connia Alexander go, then letting Betty Brock go. I also heard they let Amy Morrison go!


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece





Susan Forman
Dewey Morning Alpacas
Washington Court House, OH 43160
740-636-1899
http://www.alpacanation.com/deweymorning.asp
Home of Huey, Louie, and Dewey!

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.

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posted by Chaddo at 3:42 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

There are non-aoba affiliated shows. 
IAO is one example. ALSA shows are another.

Blue Skies
Jennifer Powers
Aero Ranch Suri Alpacas

Browns Valley, CA


On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:14 PM, barngirrl@aol.com wrote:


In a message dated 3/6/2010 9:11:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jpowers@bentstarproject.org writes:
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are gett ing worse at AOBA? 

I think things are much worse.  I think we should start having non-AOBA-affiliated shows.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA


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.

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posted by Chaddo at 3:18 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

There are options to AOBA certified shows. Of course, there's always ALSA, but then we have the International thing, which I have very little knowledge of, except the IAO which is always a great success as far as I know, and draws the best of the best in the country.



Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:14 PM, barngirrl@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 3/6/2010 9:11:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jpowers@bentstarproject.org writes:
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are gett ing worse at AOBA? 

I think things are much worse.  I think we should start having non-AOBA-affiliated shows.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA


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.

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posted by Chaddo at 3:18 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

In a message dated 3/6/2010 9:11:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, jpowers@bentstarproject.org writes:
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are gett ing worse at AOBA? 

I think things are much worse.  I think we should start having non-AOBA-affiliated shows.
 
SUSAN OLSON
Alpaca Loco
Riverside, CA

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.

__,_._,___

posted by Chaddo at 3:14 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I have been less than impressed with the way AOBA has ben run for several years now. 


Indeed, we had some questionable things going on in a local affiliate, so much so that 3/5ths of the board resigned, then another 5th who was a new board member and actually the one asking questions resigned in another month or so. Most of the members have not renewed their membership. The new board does not meet the requirements of the org's bylaws.


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece

On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Richard & Robin Vasquez wrote:


It is really sad that at a time we need AOBA and ARI to pull together more than ever we still seem to have problems. 
  I know it is very hard to have people with different opinions and different personalities work together but they should think of the members and put their own feelings aside. 
  I don't know what caused this mess but election  was so good and smooth last time.  Why change what worked before?  No need to reinvent the wheel. The map and groundwork was already established.  
 This is the reason I don't volunteer for leadership and committees.  I like  many do not have the tolerance for it.
Robin 


 
Richard and Robin Vasquez 
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue 
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jennifer Powers <jpowers@bentstarproject.org> wrote:

From: Jennifer Powers <jpowers@bentstarproject.org>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 9:11 AM

 
I wouldn't say worse. I would say remaining the same.
AOBA simply cannot get out of it's own way.

Blue Skies
Jennifer Powers
Aero Ranch Suri Alpacas

Browns Valley, CA


On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are getting worse at AOBA? 


Letter to all AOBA Board of Director Candidates and Members, 

The AOBA Nominating Committee and the AOBA Inspector of Elections have resigned, effective Friday, March 5, from their respective positions in the 2010 AOBA election process. As with all volunteers we thank them for their time, effort and the diligence with which they conducted their duties. 

The Board has a responsibility to ensure that the provisions of the By-Laws are followed and that the governance of the organization occurs within that framework. To that end we are consulting with legal counsel to determine the steps required to enable the annual election to be accomplished in the required manner and time frame. 

As we develop and execute the necessary procedures over the next week, we will ensure that all candidates and members are fully informed as things unfold. 

We regret this delay, and we acknowledge our responsibility to the members of AOBA (and the AOBA By-Laws) to make sure the election moves forward in accordance with our By-Laws. We remain committed to completing this process quickly and keeping you informed. 

For, and on behalf, of the Board

Not only this latest shocking event, but do you remember last year when AOBA board members were resigning every time you turned around? And letting Connia Alexander go, then letting Betty Brock go. I also heard they let Amy Morrison go!


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece





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.

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posted by Chaddo at 2:11 PM 0 comments

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Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities

 

It is really sad that at a time we need AOBA and ARI to pull together more than ever we still seem to have problems. 
  I know it is very hard to have people with different opinions and different personalities work together but they should think of the members and put their own feelings aside. 
  I don't know what caused this mess but election  was so good and smooth last time.  Why change what worked before?  No need to reinvent the wheel. The map and groundwork was already established.  
 This is the reason I don't volunteer for leadership and committees.  I like  many do not have the tolerance for it.
Robin 


 
Richard and Robin Vasquez
R & R Ranch LLC
325B Denio Avenue
Gilroy,CA 95020
Phone: 408-842-5233/ Cell 408-710-0676/710-7911
 
       A Ranch of Distinction
www.LoveThemAlpacas.com
                          LTA
 


--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jennifer Powers <jpowers@bentstarproject.org> wrote:

From: Jennifer Powers <jpowers@bentstarproject.org>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Recent AOBA activities
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 9:11 AM

 
I wouldn't say worse. I would say remaining the same.
AOBA simply cannot get out of it's own way.

Blue Skies
Jennifer Powers
Aero Ranch Suri Alpacas

Browns Valley, CA


On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

Does anyone besides me think things are getting worse at AOBA? 


Letter to all AOBA Board of Director Candidates and Members, 

The AOBA Nominating Committee and the AOBA Inspector of Elections have resigned, effective Friday, March 5, from their respective positions in the 2010 AOBA election process. As with all volunteers we thank them for their time, effort and the diligence with which they conducted their duties. 

The Board has a responsibility to ensure that the provisions of the By-Laws are followed and that the governance of the organization occurs within that framework. To that end we are consulting with legal counsel to determine the steps required to enable the annual election to be accomplished in the required manner and time frame. 

As we develop and execute the necessary procedures over the next week, we will ensure that all candidates and members are fully informed as things unfold. 

We regret this delay, and we acknowledge our responsibility to the members of AOBA (and the AOBA By-Laws) to make sure the election moves forward in accordance with our By-Laws. We remain committed to completing this process quickly and keeping you informed. 

For, and on behalf, of the Board

Not only this latest shocking event, but do you remember last year when AOBA board members were resigning every time you turned around? And letting Connia Alexander go, then letting Betty Brock go. I also heard they let Amy Morrison go!


Heather

Heather Zeleny
White Lotus Alpacas
Oregon

Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece



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.

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