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Saturday, October 18, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] injections

I'll be honest, I haven't tried this technique, I've only seen it
described, written by a veterinarian. And, I hate to admit, I read it
on the website of a person who I really... don't wish to send any
traffic his way.

And I might add, it is described as just poke, push, and done, with the
poking being in the thick skinned areas of the shoulder or rump. The
alpacas' skin in those areas is apparently about 1/2" thick, so if you
jab 'em and push the plunger, the meds will end up SQ as directed. For
IM injectibles, definitely use a 1" needle and inject into the muscle
of the rump or shoulder.

Heather

On Oct 18, 2008, at 10:40 AM, houckj@aol.com wrote:

> Trying to make sure I totally understand the injection technique
> recently being discussed. I believe I am correct in my distillation of
> the posts that I should get 1/2 inch, 20 gauge needles and just "poke"
> as Heather says? I can never seem to get a large enough "tent" of
> skin,
> using Marty McGee's technique; can't say how many times I have
> injected thru thick fiber and had it come out the other side, even
> when
> I was sure I had the skin tented. They just don't seem to have much
> loose sking. If I am correct and can just "poke" oh how simple.
> Someone mentioned using the thigh - I would avoid that area as I have
> been told it is too easy to hit something wrong there. But the elbow
> sounds feasible. Still simply walking by and "poking".....I *know* I
> can do that :-).
>
> Warmly, Janice in GA
>
>

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posted by Chaddo at 7:40 PM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] injections

Trying to make sure I totally understand the injection technique
recently being discussed. I believe I am correct in my distillation of
the posts that I should get 1/2 inch, 20 gauge needles and just "poke"
as Heather says? I can never seem to get a large enough "tent" of skin,
using Marty McGee's technique; can't say how many times I have
injected thru thick fiber and had it come out the other side, even when
I was sure I had the skin tented. They just don't seem to have much
loose sking. If I am correct and can just "poke" oh how simple.
Someone mentioned using the thigh - I would avoid that area as I have
been told it is too easy to hit something wrong there. But the elbow
sounds feasible. Still simply walking by and "poking".....I *know* I
can do that :-).

Warmly, Janice in GA

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posted by Chaddo at 10:40 AM 0 comments

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[AlpacaTalk] DE Questions

<<I use it for my chickens and have very little fly problems. I am not
scientific about it--I put 2-3 quarts of feed in the feeder, sprinkle
on a dusting of DE, put 1-3 more quarts of feed in, srinkle another
coating, etc. I put my DE in old Kraft parmesean containers as they
have great sprinkle tops and are a decent size. Old creamer
containers also work well, but tend to pour instead of sprinkle. If I
see flys I will also sprinkle the manure piles.

I haven't had nay luck finding food grade DE in ANY local feed store,
after much research last year I found Custom Milling
http://www.custommilling.com/ had the best price, even with shipping.

There are people that say it is bad for the intestines and others who
say it isn't. the best discussions I've found on it are on the
Backyard Chickens forum
http://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/index.php Do a search for DE
and you'll find tons of stuff.

Morgen Bowers
Dreamwood Farm
Claverack, NY>>

Thanks Morgen! I wish we had had this conversation this spring instead
of fall! The flies have been awful this year.

I have been calling all my various feed stores and noone around here
carries DE, but my favorite feed store (small, family owned, really
great folks) said someone else had called recently asking about it and
they didn't know what it was. So I gave them all the info (and made sure
they understood there is a difference between FOOD quality and pool
quality - thanks for emphasizing this Susan) and they are going to check
into getting it in. In the meantime I'll check the website you use as well.

I even have some of those sprinkle top type containers (I never throw
away *anything* that might remotely be useful :-).

So I assume you stop after fly season? I never worm my chix tho I know
a lot of folks do. I've kept backyard chickens for probably 20 yrs and
never had any illnesses or parasite problems, but have occ wondered if
perhaps I should worm them. Using the DE should soothe my concerns
about that as well. So they get enough of it by "proxy" from pecking at
their feed pellets? Again I would think it would just fall to the bottom.

This has been a very helpful discussion! You guys are ever helpful and
informative. I am very excited about incorporating DE into my regimen.
I am still trying to wrap my brain around actually getting it into the
alpacas tho. I know the expensive minerals I get from Dr Evans go to
waste, in fact I don't even give any more, because they don't eat and
they just fall to the bottom of the feed container and sit there. I
have tried putting them out free choice.....and their choice is to NOT
eat them. So I am thinking the same thing will happen with the DE
powder. Mixing it in the bulk feed can seems like it would all just
sift to the bottom and even if not, I am not sure how I would know they
are all getting their "dose" daily? Maybe the dusty powder sticks to
the feed....and you can see it?

At this time of year with fly season about over, or over for some of
you, do you stop until spring?

Warmly,
Janice in GA......very much looking forward to a flea (barn cats) and
fly free season next summer!

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posted by Chaddo at 10:35 AM 0 comments