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Friday, November 14, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Free Speech, again

Haha! Oops. Yes, I meant 1st amendment. Constitutional scholar I'm not.

Hey everyone! I don't ming being corrected. I do detest being told to
shut up just because someone doesn't share my opinion.

Have a great night everyone!

Heather

On Nov 14, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Dick McCoy wrote:

> Hello Heather,
>
> I applaud your support of the 2nd. Amendment. Albeit I hope that in
> this case you don't plan to use the 2nd. to defend the 1st.
>
> Just kidding!
>
> Dick McCoy
> Foxrun Farms
> Cato, NY
> Everybody Loves Raymond
> http://www.alpacafarms/com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Heather Zeleny
> To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:52 PM
> Subject: [AlpacaTalk] Free Speech, again
>
> So here I am, hauling out the 2nd Amendment speech again. I believe in
> freedom of speech and freedom of the press. I believe every one of us
> has the right to say something's wrong when we believe so.
>
> I believe that every one of those with differing views than mine, also
> have the right of free speech. What I will not tolerate is people
> telling anyone to stop complaining, telling those with concerns that
> they should just shut up already and go ahead and start a new breeders
> org, for example. That's a cop-out, and shows they're inflexible and
> not willing to change things for the better. In fact, I say it our
> responsibility to point out things that are wrong, for the good of the
> group, so that positive change can be made. So my delivery isn't
> popular with many people. I can live with that. I feel strongly about
> something, I get worked up, I become less eloquent than I should be.
> That doesn't make my opinion wrong or invalid.
>
> Being thankful to those who "built" the alpaca industry in the US has
> nothing to do with fawning over the richest of the rich breeders with
> herds 1000+ head, who have been in control of EVERYTHING in the past.
> There are plenty of breeders who do not have those enormous herds, who
> have also done great service to the industry in the US. Jan and Dale
> Davis come to mind. Really nice people. I shared a stall with them at
> Heart of the Valley last year. Maybe some of their magic rubbed off!
> My
> girl got 4th in her halter class at that show, but the following show
> placed 2nd for her fleece (behind an Inti-Sapa son)! Linda Berry
> Walker
> also comes to mind. She got fed up with the BS and did leave. I say we
> should not force out people who want to make things fair for all. And
> should not shout them down and call them names and characterize their
> concern as bitching or ranting. That is non-productive. And those who
> did it should be ashamed of themselves.
>
> Hopefully things are changing. We have a new board, although Ian
> Watt's
> presence makes me uneasy.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Creswell, OR
>
> 541.895.0964
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> http://www.whitelotusalpacas.com
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AlpacaTalk/join
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

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