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Wednesday, January 02, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

The plot thickens, as the incorporation of the Alpaca Livestock Company is
now labeled a "SCANDAL". This is material for the National Enquirer. Where
is Geraldo Rivera when you need him?

Non-existant Directors are preparing to receive huge salaries and bonuses.
"We already pay someone [a non-existant person] at AOBA nice
commissions on ad sales". (AOBA does not handle Alpacas Magazine
advertising... it is managed by Able Publishing in Kansas, and they're
probably the recipient of the commissions)

I haven't heard of this kind of skullduggery since "Dallas" ended in 1991.

Jess

Jess & Cookie Bowers
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Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
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Owasso, OK 74055-6531
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Heather Zeleny" <alpacatalk@westwindalpacas.com>
To: <AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Re: AOBA Shennanigans/subsidiary

> Hi LIbby,
> Please see my responses inline.
>
> On Jan 1, 2008, at 9:18 PM, libby@alpacafarm.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Heather,
>>
>> Ah, yet another accusation to make people upset. The nasties just keep
>> coming. So, okay.... I'd like to know....what is the Board hiding and
>> what
>> trouble have they gone through to hide it? Please give me some
>> examples.
>> It's important that we hear the details.
>
> I obviously have no personal knowledge, I only know what I saw in one
> post from a concerned AOBA member which brought this current scandal to
> light... and the scandal brought into the open by the "intervenors" a
> few years ago... Something is rotten in Denmark.
>
>>
>> Hmmmm.... If you are talking about the subsidiary that isn't final
>> yet...they put the subsidiary process in the Minutes and I believe
>> Amy said
>> they discussed it at the conference and at the affiliate meeting(s).
>> I'd
>> have to go back and read Amy's posts to be certain about the
>> conference
>> reference. But...are these the actions of someone intentionally hiding
>> something? Amy apologized publically that they hadn't sent the letter
>> to
>> the entire memberhip yet (they have now done so) but if they were
>> hiding
>> it, why did they put it in the Minutes? Why did they tell so many
>> people
>> about it? Sure, Amy said they made a mistake by not telling the entire
>> membership about the process. She's human...what do you want...blood??
>> Isn't an apology and the letter to the full membership rectifying it
>> enough? What IS enough? Will anything ever be enough for you?
>> Obviously
>> they weren't working very hard at hiding it. So....THAT can't be what
>> they
>> are hiding from us? What are you talking about? Specifics,
>> please.....!!
>>
>> Oh yes, a second accusation....diverting funds! Amy explained very
>> clearly
>> that the same elected Board will be responsible for the subsidiary.
>> Why do
>> you think that this Board will set it up so that funds can be
>> diverted and
>> payments made to them? Have funds been diverted before by this Board?
>
> I don't know that either, but a FOR PROFIT company will without doubt
> PAY its board very generously, and those are funds which in the past
> had gone to support AOBA activities. Now we'll be paying ALC directors
> huge salaries and bonuses (we already pay someone at AOBA nice
> commissions on ad sales! Was everyone aware of that?) and we'll be
> paying more for our AM and FRG program and Herdsire Edition ads, and
> even more for that wonderful "benefactor" program! Don't believe me?
> Just wait and watch!
>
> Heather
>
>

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