[AlpacaTalk] Re: Old Boys Club
Suppression of speech is on your mind not mine Heather. My point is to
speak freely but can we do it in a positive manner showing respect and
not just ripping down persons, places, or things? Do it constructively
and have alternative possibilities.
You will most probably win a popularity vote with calls and emails and
use that to justify a rant, but that does not improve anything. What
I do suggest is a high road rather than dragging us through the
compost pile to register a complaint and find ways of improvement.
Many things terrify me and I rabbidly disagree with them but as a rule
I attempt having good, well thought out alternatives. So, free speech
is great, just make it responsible - that's all...
I sense I riled you a bit and that was not my intent either - so for
that I will apologize, but will not relinquish the point. There are
many arrogant persons that I meet that build their ego while
denigrating others. Maybe we do not need to be one of them and come up
with a better way to do this marketing thing for all of us.
Last I was not attempting advertisement of Ideal Alpacas, it just
seemed like a good example of what you were looking for...it just
seems you have a lot of knives to grind however, and turned that into
a rip on someone else. Let's get beyond that and to a better
discussion about better ways to do this business.
What do you think? Michael
Michael and Margery A. Morack
Greenbriar Farm
Waukesha, WI
262.970.9633
MAM2@wi.rr.com
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>
> Ah, Michael,
> I have made my opinions on various topics known to AOBA. I rarely
> receive an acknowledgment of my concerns.
>
> Hm, yes, let's not give "Ideal Alpacas" any free advertising, at least
> not on this group. I have major concerns, not so much with a marketing
> program, but with the fact that the same person who owns that program,
> and a very highly marketed string of sires, is also in charge of the
> show judging. That looks like an major conflict of interest to me. And
> to a lot of other people.
>
> Michael, this forum is first and foremost about free speech. I will not
> tolerate attempts at suppression of free speech, mine, or anyone
> else's. I speak out about things I feel are wrong. Many times, people
> heard about it first from me or others on this group.
>
> To get change, people need to know what's wrong. One person, I'm sure
> you'll agree, has very little power to change anything. I have people
> emailing and calling privately all the time thanking me for my posts on
> controversial matters. Sometimes they didn't even know, because
> oftentimes they heard it here first. Oftentimes, things are done in a
> very quiet manner until it's already done it's too late to do anything
> about it, like ALC. And taking away our complimentary Alpacas Magazine
> as a benefit of membership. And the other subtle changes to the
> membership structure over the years.
>
> This forum here is the Hyde Park Speakers Corner of the alpaca
> industry. Please read the group description again. I do not tolerate
> censorship of ideas or opinions by anyone. If that's what you're after,
> feel free to join other "Stepford" alpaca groups.
>
> Heather
>
> Heather Zeleny
> White Lotus Alpacas
> Creswell, OR
>
> 541.895.0964
>
> Holistic Farm and Elite Fleece
> http://www.whitelot
> http://tech.
>
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