Re: [AlpacaTalk] snail control
Well actually the method I've seen is by having longer needles and
cutting the needle sheath off to allow only 1cm or 1/2" to extend past
the end of the cut sheath. You load your syringe/needle, then just go
near your "victim" and poke and push. In my mind, I see holding the
loaded syringe/needle with my thumb on the plunger and the needle end
coming out over the palm past my pinkie finger. Sort of like Jack the
Knife stabbing with the needle. So you go up to your victim, push the
needle into the skin, push your thumb on the plunger, and you're done.
If you do it right, you should be able to push all the meds out into
the SQ before they notice they've been jabbed and can jump away. I've
read that it works very well. We just have so many longer needles to
use up that we haven't bought the 1/2" ones yet. And we also haven't
tried the cutting the sheath off method, either, although I really
would like to next time we need to give SQ meds. Tenting the skin with
a needle long enough to poke through the other side anyway just isn't a
very efficient method of giving shots.
H
On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:
> Can you elaborate on your shot giving method?
> I only know the tenting sub cu method in the shoulder.
> Yours sounds easier.
>
> Lysa
>
> On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:
>
> > I hope someone with some experience shares....
> >
> > We had ducks once. I can't say if they actually did eat a lot of
> > snails
> > or not. We also had geese, who took over the hay boxes for their
> nest
> > boxes. That wasn't a good fit. Raccoons and/or hawks got all but one
> > of
> > our ducks, so we found the remaining duck a new, safer, home. The
> > geese
> > were re-homed as well. I hear that guinea hens eat snails and slugs
> > very well. I also hear that they're about as dumb as they come, and
> > have a "suicide" gene. :) And they're noisy as heck!
> >
> > We have pretty much always done our own shots. I really hate doing
> > them
> > but I will if I have to. Generally on our farm, my mom is the shot
> > giver and I'm the tooth trimmer. To give ivermectin shots, it's
> > easiest
> > to just buy 1/2" needles, 18 gauge so the thick meds go through
> > quickly, and you don't even need to tent the skin, just jab, push,
> and
> > you're done. So I've heard, anyway. :) Right now all we have are 1"
> > needles which makes it very hard, I think, to give shots. Harder
> than
> > it needs to be, anyway.
> >
> > But since you already have experience with M-worm, I'd think that
> > would
> > be a priority... Do you have any alpaca or llama breeders close to
> you
> > who might give you some help? You might think about contacting your
> > closest alpaca breeder's association and even join, just to have a
> > network of people for support and help. I know I'm always very
> willing
> > to go lend a hand to local breeders, who are also members of our
> local
> > group, if they ask! Networking is a wonderful thing, and I was never
> > any good at it until I got into alpacas. Now, it's so easy to
> network
> > when we all have pretty much the same goal!
> >
> > Heather
> >
> > On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:26 AM, houckj@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > I have been very bad these past 2 yrs about not giving the monthly
> > > dectomax injections that my guys used to receive every 6 wks. That
> > was
> > > when I had an old style vet that came to the farm and didn't
> > charge a
> > > fortune. He would stop by and do the injections for $10 - total!
> > Then
> > > he went up to $15, then $25 and I decided I could no longer afford
> > > that
> > > luxury. Tho I *can* give injections, it is just a pain to do by
> > myself
> > > and with everything else that has been going on, it just frankly
> > fell
> > > thru the cracks....as did so many other things.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I have ducks and guineas in the same pasture as my
> > > alpacas.....
> that
> > > ducks provide slug and snail control. I got the guineas for tick
> > > control, don't really know if they eat snails or not????
> > >
> > > What is your opinion(s) about the effectiveness of snail control
> > with
> > > ducks? Anyone else trying this? I already know it is not as
> > effective
> > > as a monthly injection. But in the face of reality, I am hoping
> this
> > > is
> > > offering a decent level of protection, until I get back up to
> speed
> > > with
> > > the injections (and everything else). I have had no problems with
> > > m-worm in these past several years. About 5-6 yrs ago, I did have
> > one
> > > boy become infected. I was able to save his life, but he was
> > somewhat
> > > lame afterwards.
> > >
> > > I also wonder if any of you use DE for parasite control? I know
> > > several
> > > people who use it great success with their horses and goats.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Janice in GA
> >
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