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Friday, October 10, 2008

Re: [AlpacaTalk] snail control

Can you elaborate on your shot giving method?
I only know the tenting sub cu method in the shoulder.
Yours sounds easier.

Lysa

On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:

> I hope someone with some experience shares....
>
> We had ducks once. I can't say if they actually did eat a lot of
> snails
> or not. We also had geese, who took over the hay boxes for their nest
> boxes. That wasn't a good fit. Raccoons and/or hawks got all but one
> of
> our ducks, so we found the remaining duck a new, safer, home. The
> geese
> were re-homed as well. I hear that guinea hens eat snails and slugs
> very well. I also hear that they're about as dumb as they come, and
> have a "suicide" gene. :) And they're noisy as heck!
>
> We have pretty much always done our own shots. I really hate doing
> them
> but I will if I have to. Generally on our farm, my mom is the shot
> giver and I'm the tooth trimmer. To give ivermectin shots, it's
> easiest
> to just buy 1/2" needles, 18 gauge so the thick meds go through
> quickly, and you don't even need to tent the skin, just jab, push, and
> you're done. So I've heard, anyway. :) Right now all we have are 1"
> needles which makes it very hard, I think, to give shots. Harder than
> it needs to be, anyway.
>
> But since you already have experience with M-worm, I'd think that
> would
> be a priority... Do you have any alpaca or llama breeders close to you
> who might give you some help? You might think about contacting your
> closest alpaca breeder's association and even join, just to have a
> network of people for support and help. I know I'm always very willing
> to go lend a hand to local breeders, who are also members of our local
> group, if they ask! Networking is a wonderful thing, and I was never
> any good at it until I got into alpacas. Now, it's so easy to network
> when we all have pretty much the same goal!
>
> Heather
>
> On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:26 AM, houckj@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I have been very bad these past 2 yrs about not giving the monthly
> > dectomax injections that my guys used to receive every 6 wks. That
> was
> > when I had an old style vet that came to the farm and didn't
> charge a
> > fortune. He would stop by and do the injections for $10 - total!
> Then
> > he went up to $15, then $25 and I decided I could no longer afford
> > that
> > luxury. Tho I *can* give injections, it is just a pain to do by
> myself
> > and with everything else that has been going on, it just frankly
> fell
> > thru the cracks....as did so many other things.
> >
> > Anyway, I have ducks and guineas in the same pasture as my
> > alpacas.....and it is not a very large pasture. I recently read that
> > ducks provide slug and snail control. I got the guineas for tick
> > control, don't really know if they eat snails or not????
> >
> > What is your opinion(s) about the effectiveness of snail control
> with
> > ducks? Anyone else trying this? I already know it is not as
> effective
> > as a monthly injection. But in the face of reality, I am hoping this
> > is
> > offering a decent level of protection, until I get back up to speed
> > with
> > the injections (and everything else). I have had no problems with
> > m-worm in these past several years. About 5-6 yrs ago, I did have
> one
> > boy become infected. I was able to save his life, but he was
> somewhat
> > lame afterwards.
> >
> > I also wonder if any of you use DE for parasite control? I know
> > several
> > people who use it great success with their horses and goats.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Janice in GA
>
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>
>
>

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