Re: [AlpacaTalk] snail control
And in what location? Thigh?
Lysa
On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:
> Well actually the method I've seen is by having longer needles and
> cutting the needle sheath off to allow only 1cm or 1/2" to extend past
> the end of the cut sheath. You load your syringe/needle, then just go
> near your "victim" and poke and push. In my mind, I see holding the
> loaded syringe/needle with my thumb on the plunger and the needle end
> coming out over the palm past my pinkie finger. Sort of like Jack the
> Knife stabbing with the needle. So you go up to your victim, push the
> needle into the skin, push your thumb on the plunger, and you're done.
> If you do it right, you should be able to push all the meds out into
> the SQ before they notice they've been jabbed and can jump away. I've
> read that it works very well. We just have so many longer needles to
> use up that we haven't bought the 1/2" ones yet. And we also haven't
> tried the cutting the sheath off method, either, although I really
> would like to next time we need to give SQ meds. Tenting the skin with
> a needle long enough to poke through the other side anyway just
> isn't a
> very efficient method of giving shots.
>
> H
>
> On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Lysa Grant wrote:
>
> > Can you elaborate on your shot giving method?
> > I only know the tenting sub cu method in the shoulder.
> > Yours sounds easier.
> >
> > Lysa
> >
> > On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Heather Zeleny wrote:
> >
> > > I hope someone with some experience shares....
> > >
> > > We had ducks once. I can't say if they actually did eat a lot of
> > > snails
> > > or not. We also had geese, who took over the hay boxes for their
> > nest
> > > boxes. That wasn't a good fit. Raccoons and/or hawks got all but
> one
> > > of
> > > our ducks, so we found the remaining duck a new, safer, home. The
> > > geese
> > > were re-homed as well. I hear that guinea hens eat snails and
> slugs
> > > very well. I also hear that they're about as dumb as they come,
> and
> > > have a "suicide" gene. :) And they're noisy as heck!
> > >
> > > We have pretty much always done our own shots. I really hate doing
> > > them
> > > but I will if I have to. Generally on our farm, my mom is the shot
> > > giver and I'm the tooth trimmer. To give ivermectin shots, it's
> > > easiest
> > > to just buy 1/2" needles, 18 gauge so the thick meds go through
> > > quickly, and you don't even need to tent the skin, just jab, push,
> > and
> > > you're done. So I've heard, anyway. :) Right now all we have are
> 1"
> > > needles which makes it very hard, I think, to give shots. Harder
> > than
> > > it needs to be, anyway.
> > >
> > > But since you already have experience with M-worm, I'd think that
> > > would
> > > be a priority... Do you have any alpaca or llama breeders close to
> > you
> > > who might give you some help? You might think about contacting
> your
> > > closest alpaca breeder's association and even join, just to have a
> > > network of people for support and help. I know I'm always very
> > willing
> > > to go lend a hand to local breeders, who are also members of our
> > local
> > > group, if they ask! Networking is a wonderful thing, and I was
> never
> > > any good at it until I got into alpacas. Now, it's so easy to
> > network
> > > when we all have pretty much the same goal!
> > >
> > > Heather
> > >
> > > On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:26 AM, houckj@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have been very bad these past 2 yrs about not giving the
> monthly
> > > > dectomax injections that my guys used to receive every 6 wks.
> That
> > > was
> > > > when I had an old style vet that came to the farm and didn't
> > > charge a
> > > > fortune. He would stop by and do the injections for $10 - total!
> > > Then
> > > > he went up to $15, then $25 and I decided I could no longer
> afford
> > > > that
> > > > luxury. Tho I *can* give injections, it is just a pain to do by
> > > myself
> > > > and with everything else that has been going on, it just frankly
> > > fell
> > > > thru the cracks....as did so many other things.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I have ducks and guineas in the same pasture as my
> > > > alpacas.....
> > that
> > > > ducks provide slug and snail control. I got the guineas for tick
> > > > control, don't really know if they eat snails or not????
> > > >
> > > > What is your opinion(s) about the effectiveness of snail control
> > > with
> > > > ducks? Anyone else trying this? I already know it is not as
> > > effective
> > > > as a monthly injection. But in the face of reality, I am hoping
> > this
> > > > is
> > > > offering a decent level of protection, until I get back up to
> > speed
> > > > with
> > > > the injections (and everything else). I have had no problems
> with
> > > > m-worm in these past several years. About 5-6 yrs ago, I did
> have
> > > one
> > > > boy become infected. I was able to save his life, but he was
> > > somewhat
> > > > lame afterwards.
> > > >
> > > > I also wonder if any of you use DE for parasite control? I know
> > > > several
> > > > people who use it great success with their horses and goats.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Janice in GA
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