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Thursday, May 06, 2010

Re: [AlpacaTalk] Minerals / Copper

 

               Thank you Jess I rarely have time to look things up for referance.I am greatful for you sending the information.My vet and Dr.Anderson have both told me treat them like a sheep.But remember some sheep feed,supplements can be medicated--I always tell people that it has to say non-medicated.The things they treat sheep feed with can kill an Alpaca.I use a semi-soft sheep block for my minerals.I tried every one of the minerals I could find and my alpacas hated them all..So I put out the blocks and everyone including the dogs love them.In the spring threw to cold weather-we do not grain.We have alot of pasture. They get fat enough on the grass & hay.So it is a must to have a mineral source they will eat.
Tina Travis  
Elkhorn Alpacas
31655 Elkhorn Glen
Warrenton,MO.63383
636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930
 Alpacas are a rare treasure,
 one that I like to share!!!!


--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Jess Bowers <alpacas@acresoflove.com> wrote:

From: Jess Bowers <alpacas@acresoflove.com>
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Minerals / Copper
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 7:10 PM

 
Actually, the generally accepted copper requirements published for alpacas (and llamas) including recommendations by Dr. Van Saun are nearly identical with NRC recommendations for sheep, while only about 60% of NRC recommended levels for goats.
 
Main point is that a sheep feed contains very acceptable levels of copper for llamas and alpacas, while a goat feed contains potentially toxic (to llamas and alpacas) levels of copper.
 
Still, soil minerals, forage testing, etc all need to be taken into account to quantify overall nutrition being provided and to determine the need for, or content, of any supplementation.
 
Jess
 
Jess & Cookie Bowers
Acres of Love Alpaca Ranch
Acres of Love Alpaca Transport
11006 N 92nd East Ave
Owasso, OK  74055-6531
(918) 829-9987
Fax (918) 272-0969
WWW.Acresoflove. com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [AlpacaTalk] Minerals / Copper

            Because they are ignorant. (I am included in this generalization) Is this the answer you were waiting to hear?

 

            I appreciate you bringing up the subject, really.  But the exclamation points are getting old.

 

            I will do better research regarding copper, and will have labs run on the one girl I am feeding broodmare supplement. 

 

            I do know that alpacas require more copper than sheep…….closer to goats but not as much as horses or cattle, so if I feed anything not labeled for alpacas, I will avoid those labeled for cattle and probably horses, too.

 

            Thanks for bringing this up. 

 

            To anyone out there with skinny animals, please disregard my advice to feed Calf Manna or Broodmare grains.  While it appears to be working for us, I would not want anyone to have negative results due to my ignorance.

 

Laura Roberts

R Half Pint Farm

Spotsylvania, VA 

 

From: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com [mailto: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com ] On Behalf Of Tina Travis
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:27 AM
To: AlpacaTalk@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [AlpacaTalk] Minerals / Copper

 

 

                  No one seams to get my question!!  I want to know why people are adding more feeds that are not made for Alpacas & those other feeds have added copper in them!!!!WHY ARE PEOPLE DOING THIS?Then they freely advices others to do this .I know all about feed,hay,pasture, minerals. .My herd is fine---BUT i am concerned about all these Pacas that are getting all the extras that are not made for alpaca and they have ADDED copper!!!

Tina Travis  
Elkhorn Alpacas
31655 Elkhorn Glen
Warrenton,MO. 63383
636-359-0250 / 636-459-8930

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